TGP owners watch out for these cheaters - GoFuckYourself.com

Cyanide · 01-18-2002, 12:43 PM

http://www.force404.com
These guys wrote a script that redirect 10% of the traffic from a gallery to a full page add. They cheat the reviewers by blacklisting the first 2 ips that see the gallery so they are never part of the 10% even if they come back later to check the gallery. It will just show the normal page for them.

They seem to operate tgps and send a email to their top gallery makers with a username/password to log on their site and try a demo ect...

They are easy to catch tho cause this sheme requiere to only have 1 recip or it could never know when the other 2 reviewers from other tgps (on a 3 recip gallery) will review the page

So keep a eye out for those 1 recip galleries
I'll post the entire log of their front page since i had access to it

Cyanide · 01-18-2002, 12:44 PM

Welcome to our private website. We ask that you keep it a secret. Because what you are about to read is going to dramatically improve your income. We want to keep the numbers small so that only the privileged few can secretly make a lot of money.

If you received an email from us, it's because we know that you submit galleries to TGPs for extra money. We also know that your traffic to those galleries is most likely substantial due to your experience and the tools you use to submit.

What is Force 404? First let me start by telling you how Force 404 was conceived.

I have been submitting galleries for a couple of years now. I own a few TGPs that receive a considerable amount of traffic. I have noticed that since I started submitting galleries a couple of years ago that sales and click thru ratios have dropped substantially.

The majority of surfers are simply getting immune to add banners and text links. They are getting smarter every day. Not to mention that the majority of TGPs are giving away so much free content that it is making it even harder to get sign ups. Which brings in the need for Force 404.

Force 404 is a script that will help you capitalize on gallery traffic. It will send every 10th visitor of your gallery (or the number you select) to a 404 error page! It will also send the 10th visitor of every picture clicked to a 404 page! (For those who don't know, a 404 page is a page that shows when an error has occured. Fortunately for us, we can turn it into a full page add!)

Meaning 10% of the gallery traffic you generate will be delivered to you on a platter. I easily get 100k/day to just one of my domains and get 10k to my 404! I've been doing it for a while and have been making fistfuls.

As you may know, 404 traffic is your bread and butter. The surfer has no where else to go except for clicking back or going through your adds. My 404 gets a 30% click thru ratio. So with just one of my domains, 10k goes to my 404 page and 3k goes directly to my sponsor!

Damn that's good money! Almost sounds too good to be true right? Think again. Keep reading to hear all the precautions we have taken to make sure we continue to get listed.

Ok,well, how do you prevent from getting caught?
That is the beautiful thing about Force 404. I don't get caught! Force 404 automatically blacklists the first 2 IP addresses from ever seeing the 404 page. The first two IP addresses are:

1. The reviewers gallery software.

2. The reviewer himself.

They never see the 404 page! The script then lets 10 surfers go by before throwing the first 404. With all these precautions, I get listed and scrape 10% off the top. It has been a dream come true.

What if the reviewer comes back to check your gallery again?
They can all they want. They are still blacklisted from ever seeing the 404 on that page. They will never see the 404 from the pics either.

Can I use auto submission software with Force 404?
Yes, I happen to use TGSW to do my submissions. I set it to one recip per gallery so that the very first person to see the gallery is the reviewer of each page. Each page is handled separately of the other. Meaning the first two IP addresses are black listed from each and every page.

Why are you making this script public?
Well, not exactly public. Only the few that submit quality galleries that generate substantial traffic are invited. I have debated on this for a while. I submit galleries with this script on them and secretly make a lot of money. But, I only have so much time in a day. I usually submit galleries on 4 domains to earn my $200.00 a day.

Then I got to thinking that this script should be shared. This could turn out to be the new way of generating money from galleries. Since the old ways are having less and less of an effect.

The internet is evolving. You are either ahead of the curve or behind it. Where are you? I'm happy to report that Force 404 has rocketed me above and beyond the curve and you have the chance to join me.

If you would like to join me. I have made it possible for you to do so. Check out the demo and your jaw will drop. Then feel free to order it and we will install it for you!

Speedy26 · 01-18-2002, 12:51 PM

so thats why people keep sending me cheat galleries and i check them out and everything seems ok.

on another note i dont think you should have posted there URL.....

Cyanide · 01-18-2002, 12:55 PM

This bullcrap can only work with a 1 recip gallery, and i didnt want anyone to think i was making up shit.

eRock · 01-18-2002, 12:56 PM

It's a clever idea tho. Gotta give him credit for that!

doeser · 01-18-2002, 01:09 PM

http://www.lushsex.com/tgp/main.html

i got the spam from this tgp,since this is the same owner.
but good tgp-scripts will find it anyway;-)

cheating gets you nowhere in the long run.

grumpy · 01-18-2002, 01:15 PM

old old old trick
You fuck the surfers!!

GFY

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cgiGeek · 01-20-2002, 05:21 AM

Actually:
1. You can modify how many recips you use in the TGP submission script software.
2. Is not detectable nor tracable, specially buy TGPs scripts.

Wiredoctor · 01-20-2002, 11:45 AM

Doesnt the guy who runs lushsex hang out on GFY ??? I seem to remember him here???

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SleazyDream · 01-20-2002, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wiredoctor:
Doesnt the guy who runs lushsex hang out on GFY ??? I seem to remember him here???

his name's probally speedy26

Lush · 01-20-2002, 12:59 PM

Hey, new idea! Are your galleries actually making any of you any money? NO! They're bandwidth burners.

Something needs to change. You know if you guys weren't stuck in your old ways, you could probably start making some money.

Imagine if... www.force404.com
Username: [email protected]
Password: enterforce404com

Was used by everybody. First of all, galleries would become much cleaner. Possibly even bannerless galleries. With a 10% covercharge. BANNERS AREN'T WORKING ANYMORE! Full page adds do.

You can't catch the script. Our programmers are too good. About the recip thing. What's to stop me from putting recips to other tgps? So that there are three. I explained that in the faq.

I run a tgp and I don't care if people put clean galleries that 404 10% of the time. Bannerless hosts all do it. If you think not, then you are pretty naieve. How else do you think they can be profitable? This is to simply put the same, No actually the best technology in the average submitters hands.

Don't think of it as a cheat. It's just an alternative way to market. Times change and so does the approach.

The only reason we took the extra step to make it undetectable is because we know that a good percentage of you wouldn't see it that way.

Which is sad and I hope you guys are making the same kind of cash that I am. With that narrow view.

To those of you that are sick of submitting galleries for pennies. Hop aboard. We will stay ahead of the oposition.

I've been doing this for 6 months and still get 75k to each of my domains.

stangster · 01-20-2002, 01:23 PM

A cheater is a cheater.

But if you're gonna cheat, be a PROUD cheater like lush. Don't hide.

Martin · 01-20-2002, 04:12 PM

Yeah I have a few galleries in my list that do this. Fuckers are hard to catch... Atleast they don't nail your surfer with nasty exits..

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Wiredoctor · 01-20-2002, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Martin:
Yeah I have a few galleries in my list that do this. Fuckers are hard to catch... Atleast they don't nail your surfer with nasty exits..

Only for now. They already are doing this because they couldnt make money the honest way, so they are using this way to cheat. Now soon they will get the redirects to be even worse ....a cheat is a cheat. What they are doing is being greedy fucks and trying to make a quick buck. This may work for the quick buck but not the long haul. They are going to really hurt the industry by making more and more tgp's stop accepting galleries from anyone other then a handful of preferred submitters... This is not a good thing they are doing.....

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01-18-2002, 12:43 PM	#1
Cyanide Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 3	TGP owners watch out for these cheaters http://www.force404.com These guys wrote a script that redirect 10% of the traffic from a gallery to a full page add. They cheat the reviewers by blacklisting the first 2 ips that see the gallery so they are never part of the 10% even if they come back later to check the gallery. It will just show the normal page for them. They seem to operate tgps and send a email to their top gallery makers with a username/password to log on their site and try a demo ect... They are easy to catch tho cause this sheme requiere to only have 1 recip or it could never know when the other 2 reviewers from other tgps (on a 3 recip gallery) will review the page So keep a eye out for those 1 recip galleries I'll post the entire log of their front page since i had access to it

01-18-2002, 12:44 PM	#2
Cyanide Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 3	Welcome to our private website. We ask that you keep it a secret. Because what you are about to read is going to dramatically improve your income. We want to keep the numbers small so that only the privileged few can secretly make a lot of money. If you received an email from us, it's because we know that you submit galleries to TGPs for extra money. We also know that your traffic to those galleries is most likely substantial due to your experience and the tools you use to submit. What is Force 404? First let me start by telling you how Force 404 was conceived. I have been submitting galleries for a couple of years now. I own a few TGPs that receive a considerable amount of traffic. I have noticed that since I started submitting galleries a couple of years ago that sales and click thru ratios have dropped substantially. The majority of surfers are simply getting immune to add banners and text links. They are getting smarter every day. Not to mention that the majority of TGPs are giving away so much free content that it is making it even harder to get sign ups. Which brings in the need for Force 404. Force 404 is a script that will help you capitalize on gallery traffic. It will send every 10th visitor of your gallery (or the number you select) to a 404 error page! It will also send the 10th visitor of every picture clicked to a 404 page! (For those who don't know, a 404 page is a page that shows when an error has occured. Fortunately for us, we can turn it into a full page add!) Meaning 10% of the gallery traffic you generate will be delivered to you on a platter. I easily get 100k/day to just one of my domains and get 10k to my 404! I've been doing it for a while and have been making fistfuls. As you may know, 404 traffic is your bread and butter. The surfer has no where else to go except for clicking back or going through your adds. My 404 gets a 30% click thru ratio. So with just one of my domains, 10k goes to my 404 page and 3k goes directly to my sponsor! Damn that's good money! Almost sounds too good to be true right? Think again. Keep reading to hear all the precautions we have taken to make sure we continue to get listed. Ok,well, how do you prevent from getting caught? That is the beautiful thing about Force 404. I don't get caught! Force 404 automatically blacklists the first 2 IP addresses from ever seeing the 404 page. The first two IP addresses are: 1. The reviewers gallery software. 2. The reviewer himself. They never see the 404 page! The script then lets 10 surfers go by before throwing the first 404. With all these precautions, I get listed and scrape 10% off the top. It has been a dream come true. What if the reviewer comes back to check your gallery again? They can all they want. They are still blacklisted from ever seeing the 404 on that page. They will never see the 404 from the pics either. Can I use auto submission software with Force 404? Yes, I happen to use TGSW to do my submissions. I set it to one recip per gallery so that the very first person to see the gallery is the reviewer of each page. Each page is handled separately of the other. Meaning the first two IP addresses are black listed from each and every page. Why are you making this script public? Well, not exactly public. Only the few that submit quality galleries that generate substantial traffic are invited. I have debated on this for a while. I submit galleries with this script on them and secretly make a lot of money. But, I only have so much time in a day. I usually submit galleries on 4 domains to earn my $200.00 a day. Then I got to thinking that this script should be shared. This could turn out to be the new way of generating money from galleries. Since the old ways are having less and less of an effect. The internet is evolving. You are either ahead of the curve or behind it. Where are you? I'm happy to report that Force 404 has rocketed me above and beyond the curve and you have the chance to join me. If you would like to join me. I have made it possible for you to do so. Check out the demo and your jaw will drop. Then feel free to order it and we will install it for you!

01-18-2002, 12:51 PM	#3
Speedy26 Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: MI Posts: 950	so thats why people keep sending me cheat galleries and i check them out and everything seems ok. on another note i dont think you should have posted there URL.....

01-18-2002, 12:55 PM	#4
Cyanide Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 3	This bullcrap can only work with a 1 recip gallery, and i didnt want anyone to think i was making up shit.

01-18-2002, 12:56 PM	#5
eRock Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Chi-town Posts: 3,112	It's a clever idea tho. Gotta give him credit for that!

01-18-2002, 01:09 PM	#6
doeser Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: swiss alps Posts: 205	http://www.lushsex.com/tgp/main.html i got the spam from this tgp,since this is the same owner. but good tgp-scripts will find it anyway;-) cheating gets you nowhere in the long run.

01-18-2002, 01:15 PM	#7
grumpy Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 9,870	old old old trick You fuck the surfers!! GFY ------------------ Life is a fairytale

01-20-2002, 05:21 AM	#8
cgiGeek Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Miami Beach, FL Posts: 203	Actually: 1. You can modify how many recips you use in the TGP submission script software. 2. Is not detectable nor tracable, specially buy TGPs scripts.

01-20-2002, 11:45 AM	#9
Wiredoctor Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The Great USA Posts: 1,632	Doesnt the guy who runs lushsex hang out on GFY ??? I seem to remember him here??? ------------------ It's All About Clicks

01-20-2002, 12:59 PM	#11
Lush Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Midvale, Utah, USA Posts: 230	Hey, new idea! Are your galleries actually making any of you any money? NO! They're bandwidth burners. Something needs to change. You know if you guys weren't stuck in your old ways, you could probably start making some money. Imagine if... www.force404.com Username: [email protected] Password: enterforce404com Was used by everybody. First of all, galleries would become much cleaner. Possibly even bannerless galleries. With a 10% covercharge. BANNERS AREN'T WORKING ANYMORE! Full page adds do. You can't catch the script. Our programmers are too good. About the recip thing. What's to stop me from putting recips to other tgps? So that there are three. I explained that in the faq. I run a tgp and I don't care if people put clean galleries that 404 10% of the time. Bannerless hosts all do it. If you think not, then you are pretty naieve. How else do you think they can be profitable? This is to simply put the same, No actually the best technology in the average submitters hands. Don't think of it as a cheat. It's just an alternative way to market. Times change and so does the approach. The only reason we took the extra step to make it undetectable is because we know that a good percentage of you wouldn't see it that way. Which is sad and I hope you guys are making the same kind of cash that I am. With that narrow view. To those of you that are sick of submitting galleries for pennies. Hop aboard. We will stay ahead of the oposition. I've been doing this for 6 months and still get 75k to each of my domains.

01-20-2002, 01:23 PM	#12
stangster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,126	A cheater is a cheater. But if you're gonna cheat, be a PROUD cheater like lush. Don't hide.

01-20-2002, 04:12 PM	#13
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	Yeah I have a few galleries in my list that do this. Fuckers are hard to catch... Atleast they don't nail your surfer with nasty exits.. ------------------ Sarcastic-Bastards Board For New And Experienced Webmasters. Green Thumbs TGP.Com