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congrats

50 lying program owners. Edit: damn, missed again.

Let's not help him bury the real threads, let's keep the discussion here:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=464429&page=5

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=465076&page=5

This is exactly what I mean. If he posts his stats confirming 200 joins a day, you will say it is photoshoped. If he does not post stats, you will say he is a liar.

So just admit it that he can't win WITH YOU. You just want the drama. You just want to be negative. Why don't you man up to what your true intentions are?

i sale stats cheap :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

http://www.airek.com/gfy/stats.jpg

Show me another program that will publicly brag about their alleged sales, post screen shots of said sales, and then run away claiming that nobody has a right to such private information.

Oh, wait... NO ONE WILL EVER DO IT.

Please tell me, what are my "true intentions"?? Sig views? lol

I guess I'm just a "hater" for helping point out this guy's lies.

Among many other things, he lied about making 200 joins a day, and used that to try to discredit all the "haters" who don't make that many joins. It's obvious to anyone paying attention that he was lying and doesn't do anything close to 200 joins a day. His Alexia ranking proves that, so do several other factors. WITH ME? lmfao, it's not me he has to prove himself to, it's EVERYONE. He lied to EVERYONE, and EVERYONE realizes that. There's only one way he can prove he's not a liar, and that is to let someone, anyone, look at his epoch stats. You say that's not public information, well, he made it public when he repeated over and over again how many joins he says he does, and tried to use that to discredit others.

Another faked stats picture isn't going to do anything, he's already been caught faking numerous stats pictures. He's not going to let anyone see his Epoch stats because he's lying, period. It's not my fault he has no credibility, it's his. He shouldn't have lied repeatedly.

Keep trying to blame me for MextformX's lies, and please, call me a hater. Idiots said the same thing to me when I warned everyone about Like Whoa years ago and Dingo's biller processor a couple months ago, who everyone said couldn't be a scam because they had spent so much on advertising. I hate to say atoadaso, but atoadaso. I fucking atoadaso.

Sly, I respect your opinion very much, but I disagree with you here.

Think of it this way.

Quiet has posted his stats here many times. Has anyone ever said Quiet, you are full of shi.t, you should give me admin access so I can verify your numbers?

If anyone said that, do you think Quiet would oblige? No, sorry, he would not.

Just because you post stats does not mean that gives everyone a right to have access to your admin area.

And Meta also said he will post stats tomorow, but he just will not give admin access to anyone. It would be insane to expect him to give admin access to anyone just because he posted stats here.

Anyways, I just don't think anyone here who owns a program would give access to anyone else for them to see their "books".

He's been caught photoshoping stats before ... I say he's full of shit and got himself and his big mouth in a whole lot of trouble .

If you can't tell the difference between the circumstances under which quiet has posted his stats and those under which MextformX posted his, you're not paying close enough attention. Maybe you should go re-read a couple threads before you keep making an ass out of yourself by defending a bad liar. :2 cents:

Says the guy famous for posting that he bought a new ferrari and then posted pics of a ferrari that he found on ebay :winkwink:

His program only have been up for a month ... not like he have much to loose ... he can give it for 2 mins to some1 ... or get some1 from paycom confirm this .

Many other ways arround then photoshoping screenshots if it was really true .

ahahahahahaha, that was this guy? That explains a hell of a lot.

yes it is, also sold his sig last month, needed cash

I think it was fairly clear in the thread you are reffering to that it was "koshka" AKA "VGK" who was the affiliate faking stats so he can get more affiliates under him. Re-read the thread.

Off topic, but Dre, that big project you were working on, what happened to it? I was looking forward to it. Or maybe I am thinking of someone else? I dunno, I have the memory of a fish sometimes :)

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=243085

hahaha, what a clown. This just keeps getting better and better. Fake stats, fake Ferraris, what's next? Maybe you two could move into a fake house together and throw fake parties for fake affiliates while serving fake drinks and afterwards take a swim in your fake pool.

How sad that MetaformX couldn't have taken the advice that iceicebaby gave to Rhino22 a year ago when he lied about having a Ferrari. This entire debacle could have been avoided.

That xgape.com index page is crazy... Don't know about 200 a day but i'm sure it converts trials...

You're comparing quiet to MetaformX?

:1orglaugh

Look, we all know you're buddies with Meta. I think he helped you out of a jam or something once? Being loyal to friends is great, but walking blind onto a battlefield simply because your buddy says "do it" is not the brightest thing to do.

Meta is being a jackass. If he's actually doing 200 sales a day, great for him. Thats quite the accomplishment. Fact is, he keeps hurting his own reputation so his word is poop. Poop! Nobody believes he's doing 200 a day. I've had other program owners already contacting me laughing their ass off at the thought of him doing 200 a day. Why do you think that is?

It really doesn't matter to me either way. He was supposed to launch a year ago. Then he was supposed to have some glorious new payout structure that ended up being a basic active member setup. He fought and fought that active members was the best way to go even though MANY of us told him he's fooling himself. So what happens next? He decides to switch to rev-share. Big surprise there! Then he tries to fool himself once again that affiliates will make more with rev-share than they ever would with PPS. Bull shit! If they aren't making money with active members, how the fuck are they going to make any money with rev-share?

I don't think Meta has a CLUE what he's doing. I'm not saying I do have that clue or I could do a better job, but I'm not the one trying to herd cats either.

There's too many problems these days to risk my traffic on a guy who obviously has no clue what he's doing.

Woa, These StudioCash threads have invaded GFY, almost like we skinned GFY :1orglaugh

Yeah, almost like you skinned it with a big image that says "whatever you do, don't use Studio Cash".

Anyone else find it funny that this "studiocash rep" has the numbers blocked out in his sig? :1orglaugh

I'm sorry, I did not realize that part of my job description included providing StudioCash statistics to you. :)

But hey, I am not here for the drama, just dropped in to say hi and if any affiliates/potential affiliates have any questions or need anything, please do not hesitate to contact me:

support [at] studiocash.com

What is it? Please make your minds up.

Per Active? Revshare? PPS?

Cant one of you morons bring an end to this madness?

Regards,

Lee

You'de be suprised Rich at the results these StudioCash threads have had. :)

Why did you black out the numbers? :)

Well, apparently they haven't switched... they just announced that they're going to switch... at some point.

Reminds me of Spaceballs when Dark Helment yells at the guy "Why are you preparing? You're always preparing! Just go!"

I'm not the one who told you to put that in your sig, and I'm not the one who told your "CEO" to constantly brag about his "200 signups per day". You guys seem to keep forgetting that fact.

Funny how after MetaformX was shammed off the board, Rhino22 came to his aid, and now that he's been shammed away, a new "rep" shows up. This wouldn't be another one of MetaformX's fake nicks, would it?

Hmm, I am not familiar with the rules of "GFY", I usually do not post on the boards as indicated by my inferior post count, but did your mother ever teach you to treat others as you would like to be treated? The word "moron' would hardly describe my abilities as a StudioCash rep. :)

Now to answer your question, we are switching to Revshare within a few days from the $35 per active model. Please feel free to hit me up if you have any other questions. Thank you :)

No, I know exactly what result they're going to have. I suspect you guys may be a little surprised. No serious webmaster is going to touch Studio Cash, and the program will be dead in a year. Mark my words, I'm almost always right. I was right about Like Whoa, PIBCash, Dingo's biller, etc etc etc.

Gotta love the way Meta keeps sending his flunkies in to take the heat.

I wonder who will be the next one to surface?

A sponsor program can't survive without credibility, that's a fact. In the past week Studio Cash has officially flushed any credibility they may have had down the toilet, now it's just a matter of time. Luke, if you're actually not another of MetaformX's fake nicks, now would be a good time to start handing out resume's to real programs.

Just to chime in... since we will soon be a public company, our books will be open to anyone that wants to see them :)

Metaform, just give up. Admit you are a liar and move on.

Okay, I see you guys have a big infatuation with numbers :) And rightly so I guess, since this is what all this thread is about, numbers :)

This sig was made on 4/15/05 I think, a while ago. The blacking out part was done to hide the # of joins and traffic, and just show the conversion ratios, since back then we had not disclosed the # of joins we were doing.

this is getting better and better

After you own this guy, I bet asylumN shows up for his beating.

You mean those virtual 200 joins a day? shit...

You guys keep getting deeper and deeper :helpme

Exciting stuff :thumbsup

I give him three more posts before he's shot full of holes and needs to be replaced by the next patsie.

Would it be a lot easier if Lens stuck a couple of these Studio Trash threads?

I mean, everyone will get to see them then and we can get on with something more important than MetaScammer.

Regards,

Lee

Rich, like I said, I am not here for the drama, I have work to do, so I will get going and will check the thread to see if I can answer anyones questions regarding the program. I'm not the drama kind of person, so I will let all you guys duke it out in the wild wild west of GFY. :)

You are entitled to your opinion, that is what this message board is about.

What 'real' webmasters care about is who makes them the most money, plain and simple. I have been in this business long enough to know that, and I think you understand that as well.

I guess I don't quite understand what the big deal is with you. You are saying we don't do 200 joins a day on XGAPE. Meta is saying we do.

And somehow, you think this little 'controvercy' of if XGAPE does 200 joins a day or not is going to stop webmasters from promoting us, IF we have the ability to make them money?

I am sorry, but I think you are a bit naive, and misinformed.

Now again this is all contingent on IF we make webmasters money, right? I mean if the program sucks, nothing else matters, so no one will promote us.

Do you think a program that makes everyone money will suddenly evaporate because you think it should? That is not how the world works.

So we will wait and see what happens I guess. I am not looking for a job, I will be with StudioCash for as long as they want me. They have treated me right from day 1, and I owe Meta alot for that.

Everyone has seen XGAPE, most people, even if they do not like Meta on a personal level, will admit that is one damn good site that should convert.

All of our other sites will be as good or better than XGAPE. You make your own conclusions.

Take care Rich.

obviously not enough work that you couldn't post a short essay first....

:eek7 EEK :eek7

excuse me... :disgust

i only see one that's posting for him, maybe they're one and the same :)

Psychology 101. Any sentence started with the words " To tell you the truth..." or "To be honest with you..." ends with a lie.

:(

The billers as well as NATS give site owners the ability to setup users to their program with specific access rights. Metaformx could just set up an account which would have limited access rights. He could also make it brief, like 5 min access. Just enough time to see daily sales and thats about it. His complaining about giving away his business secrets is pretty funny since he could set this up where he wouldnt give away information like traffic sources, affiliates, emails of endusers etc.

This only sounds like bullshit excuses. I think for 2k he would have gladly provided limited access to verify his stated 200 sales per day.

Ok MetaformX, err, I mean "Luke", so I'm naive, am I? Funny, because you seem to think all this is about how many joins Studio Cash does, you sound like the one who is misinformed. Let me fill you in partner, all of this "drama" as you call it, came about because your "CEO" got twisted around in his own lies. No one cares about how many joins your little program does, people care when program owners try to lie to affiliates.

First he faked a bunch of traffic tests using a bunch of old nicks and got busted badly for it. Fine, rookie mistake, most of us let it go. Then he comes back to explain why he's switching to revshare instead of doing PPS. What he meant to say was something like, we're a new program and we're not able to offer PPS yet, after we test our sites out and get our shit together we'll add a PPS option. Instead, he starts spitting out a bunch of shit about how he's only doing revshare because "smart webmasters" know that's how affiliates make more money, that programs make more with PPS, and since MetaformX is so selfless, he decided to offer revshare only as a favor to affiliates. When people start questioning his logic and, basically calling him on his bullshit, he keeps compounding it by lying about having the money and ability to offer PPS, and then makes it worse by lying about how successful the site is, saying over and over again that it does 200 joins a day and that anyone who does less doesn't have the right to question him. That's what this is about, your "boss" being a liar, it's not about "haters" and it's not about anyone being out to put down your program. There, now you're up to date, you guys can keep trying to spin the situation around as much as you'd like, but the damage is done, tons of people have read what really happened and there's no going back. Start preparing your CV now. You'll only be with Studio Cash as long as they're around, and with each compounding lie it's becoming glaringly obvious that this program will not even get off the ground.

The only questions you're going to get are about the credibility of your boss, and you're not doing a very good job answering them.

god, so much drama so little time