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Old 05-07-2005, 09:09 PM   #51
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ok, its quite obvious your TOTALLY uneducated....
Can anyone else see the irony?

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What has a black man ever invented? Not an atomic bomb. Not the fucking wheel.
In fact the black man has never invented nothing.
WTF!? You haven't heard of George Washington Carver? Here's a partial list: http://inventors.about.com/library/blblackinventors.htm
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I'm not sure if I agree with this 100% but it does raise some interesting questions and its answers do demand further analysis and investigation:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editor...l?id=110006608

this "opinion" article is sort of off base a little... it ignores the psychological reprecussions that slavery has had on blacks & black culture that stems beyond those who were actually slaves. much of these mental effects still exist in the ghettos and in black relationships as a whole. the LACK of a true black culture is an effect of slavery. i mean, its like saying slavery is NOT the reason that black men dominate the majority of athletic sports today. white slave owners BRED the super negro. white people will NEVER have the physical aptitude that blacks do because of slavery.

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WTF!? You haven't heard of George Washington Carver? Here's a partial list: http://inventors.about.com/library/blblackinventors.htm



It's a shame people still generalize races & cultures. Ignorance is entertaining, though, I have to admit.
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Old 05-07-2005, 09:18 PM   #57
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crack, gangs, 20" rims, spinners, rap music, drive by shootings, etc. c'mon man give them the credit they deserve.

damn you are dumb.... i guess people just feel they should use their ignorance as an excuse to be racist (or at least make racist comments).

gangs - invented by white people (italian or otherwise originally in nyc waay back in the colonial days

20" rims - invented by white people who own the companies who produce rims

spinners - these are rims dumbass

drive by shootings - once again, invented by gangsters (italian or otherwise whose methods were mimmicked by ignorant mofos in the ghetto, now mimmicked by white kids in columbine who have access to guns)

anything else you want to sound ignorant about? amazing people can post ignorant, racist shit but it doesn't affect how people see them on a whole in this industry. then again, i did see it in that "racist porn whore" thread i did. so i shouldn't be surprised. her webmaster probably hangs out here


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i mean, its like saying slavery is NOT the reason that black men dominate the majority of athletic sports today. white slave owners BRED the super negro. white people will NEVER have the physical aptitude that blacks do because of slavery.

lemme know if you want me to drop some more common sense on ya... i got updates to write

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So you subscribe to a "genetic" explanation to "race"? Even if the black slave breeding hypothesis is to be accepted do you think the 'breeding' was extensive enough and went on for long enough to fundamentally affect physical differences among groups?

I've always been afraid of 'genetic' explanations to cultural/political/social issues since cultural perception shapes pretty much everything we interpret as 'reality.'

Sowell's written a ton of stuff about this.
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damn you are dumb.... i guess people just feel they should use their ignorance as an excuse to be racist (or at least make racist comments).

gangs - invented by white people (italian or otherwise originally in nyc waay back in the colonial days

20" rims - invented by white people who own the companies who produce rims

spinners - these are rims dumbass

drive by shootings - once again, invented by gangsters (italian or otherwise whose methods were mimmicked by ignorant mofos in the ghetto, now mimmicked by white kids in columbine who have access to guns)

anything else you want to sound ignorant about? amazing people can post ignorant, racist shit but it doesn't affect how people see them on a whole in this industry. then again, i did see it in that "racist porn whore" thread i did. so i shouldn't be surprised. her webmaster probably hangs out here


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this "opinion" article is sort of off base a little... it ignores the psychological reprecussions that slavery has had on blacks & black culture that stems beyond those who were actually slaves.
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If this is true, then why does the demographic/economic comparison of Southern US blacks and West Indians differ so widely? Weren't both groups slaves?

Here's an excerpt: http://www.opinionjournal.com/editor...l?id=110006608

Three decades of my own research lead me to believe that neither of those explanations will stand up under scrutiny of the facts. As one small example, a study published last year indicated that most of the black alumni of Harvard were from either the West Indies or Africa, or were the children of West Indian or African immigrants. These people are the same race as American blacks, who greatly outnumber either or both.
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But slavery doesn't stand up under scrutiny of historical facts any better than race or racism as explanations of North-South differences or black-white differences. The people who settled in the South came from different regions of Britain than the people who settled in the North--and they differed as radically on the other side of the Atlantic as they did here--that is, before they had ever seen a black slave.

Slavery also cannot explain the difference between American blacks and West Indian blacks living in the United States because the ancestors of both were enslaved. When race, racism, and slavery all fail the empirical test, what is left?

Culture is left.


Like I said earlier, I don't buy Sowell's culture- and geo-centric hypotheses whole hog but it does offer a refreshing alternative to the currently trendy " environment/external factors" camp.
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So you subscribe to a "genetic" explanation to "race"? Even if the black slave breeding hypothesis is to be accepted do you think the 'breeding' was extensive enough and went on for long enough to fundamentally affect physical differences among groups?

I've always been afraid of 'genetic' explanations to cultural/political/social issues since cultural perception shapes pretty much everything we interpret as 'reality.'

Sowell's written a ton of stuff about this.

lol... you think 400 years of slavery in AMERICA didn't effect the blacks who descended from that very practice? please man... most black people IN AMERICA are here because of slavery and were bred like animals because that's how black people saw them. note that most black people in america are not "black" skinned either. none of them are pure because of slavery & owners fraternizing (raping or having relationships) with their female property. its not a hypoethesis, its fact. black people didn't hop on some boat voluntarily and say, "hey, i wanna live in america, the home of the brave where all people are equal".... fuck all that, they got here because of slavery & black men today are the result of that.

if you haven't noticed, black american men are built stronger & more muscular than black africans. why? once again, white people - to their credit - have bred the super negro & now "he" is superior athletically because of that while the white man simply runs the show. that is fact.


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I'm not saying Slavery didn't affect Blacks. Of course, it did. I just don't agree with a genetic explanation for any 'differences' between 'races.'

Hitler and his eugencist ilk believed in a genetic explanation to everything ... resulting in disastrous consequences for the rest of the world.

People are a result of their environment and culture/subculture. Even within any 'race' there's a whole range of 'cultures.' Unfortunately, media portrayals of black culture tends to only focus on hip hop and its 'subculture.' Reading Sowell, Williams, McWhorter, one realizes that there's many other other cultures within the African-American community than the one portrayed in mass media/mass market outlets.


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lol... you think 400 years of slavery in AMERICA didn't effect the blacks who descended from that very practice? please man... most black people IN AMERICA are here because of slavery and were bred like animals because that's how black people saw them. note that most black people in america are not "black" skinned either. none of them are pure because of slavery & owners fraternizing (raping or having relationships) with their female property. its not a hypoethesis, its fact. black people didn't hop on some boat voluntarily and say, "hey, i wanna live in america, the home of the brave where all people are equal".... fuck all that, they got here because of slavery & black men today are the result of that.

if you haven't noticed, black american men are built stronger & more muscular than black africans. why? once again, white people - to their credit - have bred the super negro & now "he" is superior athletically because of that while the white man simply runs the show. that is fact.


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Slave breeding didn't go on a large scale for 400 years. Maybe on a small, regional, localized basis. In fact, up until the British banned Slave transatlanctic transport in the 1820s it was cheaper to supplement their slave force by buying new additions instead of breeding replacements. After 1820s, it became profitable to breed slaves because of lack of steady inputs of new imported slaves.

So, it's not exactly 400 years of mass scale genetic tampering and breeding.


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lol... you think 400 years of slavery in AMERICA didn't effect the blacks who descended from that very practice? please man... most black people IN AMERICA are here because of slavery and were bred like animals because that's how black people saw them. note that most black people in america are not "black" skinned either. none of them are pure because of slavery & owners fraternizing (raping or having relationships) with their female property. its not a hypoethesis, its fact. black people didn't hop on some boat voluntarily and say, "hey, i wanna live in america, the home of the brave where all people are equal".... fuck all that, they got here because of slavery & black men today are the result of that.

if you haven't noticed, black american men are built stronger & more muscular than black africans. why? once again, white people - to their credit - have bred the super negro & now "he" is superior athletically because of that while the white man simply runs the show. that is fact.


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I'm not saying Slavery didn't affect Blacks. Of course, it did. I just don't agree with a genetic explanation for any 'differences' between 'races.'
ok, we're talking about 2 different things. i mentioned the physical disparity between white men & black men in amercia is a result of slavery. that is a fact. i'm not talking about differences as a whole including culture, behavior and intelligence. no, i don't believe that genetics has anything to do with those things.

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People are a result of their environment and culture/subculture. Even within any 'race' there's a whole range of 'cultures.' Unfortunately, media portrayals of black culture tends to only focus on hip hop and its 'subculture.' Reading Sowell, Williams, McWhorter, one realizes that there's many other other cultures within the African-American community than the one portrayed in mass media/mass market outlets.
people's BEHAVIOR are a result of this. their physical attributes are wholly genetic. we're on the same page, just needed to clarify


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Slave breeding didn't go on a large scale for 400 years. Maybe on a small, regional, localized basis. In fact, up until the British banned Slave transatlanctic transport in the 1820s it was cheaper to supplement their slave force by buying new additions instead of breeding replacements. After 1820s, it became profitable to breed slaves because of lack of steady inputs of new imported slaves.

So, it's not exactly 400 years of mass scale genetic tampering and breeding.

dude... whether its 100 years or 400... that's a long time & the effects of that practice on the physical makeup of black americans is evident today. not every black man is physically superior to the white man next to them BUT there is an obvious disparity & if all humans are in some way equal, there is no other explanation for this disparity. descendants of that breeding are physically stronger... break it down & we all ARE just animals. ask any breeder what happens when the strong are bred & the weak are allowed to die. its basic genetics.


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The majority of black people don't speak that way, just the ones that you have either watched on television or had encoutners with, aybe you should change your surroundings or the class of people that you hang around.

I will agree with that 200%. However the majority of the media does not show how the majority of the black population really are. Yea sure there are a few shows out there where the actors are "normal" people, but the bulk of it is ghetto shit with people who just sound, act and look plain ignorant.

To glorify such a lifestyle is harmful and keeps perpetuating the cycle. But since the media machines are predominantly owned by whites, I guess that's just another form of The Man holdin' them down. Sell it to them in a manner where it looks good and keep the cycle going. Keep them spending their money to buy all this high priced shit and bling blig to keep up with the fad, keep them broke, keep them in the ghetto and keep them under control.

On hip hop... The power of hip hop is a huge force across the world. Almost too powerful. Hip hop dictates how many people live, act, shop, think, speak and spend their money on. Now it has spread overseas to Latin and Asian countries. I saw a 6 story billboard of 50 Cent in Bangkok a few months ago. Unreal. I'm not blasting hop hop, because I do enjoy a lot of the music... I'm just stating it is more powerful than people give it credit for, and instead of being used in a positive manner it's influence seems to be mostly negative.

Overall I have a real problem with today's media. That is where the blame needs to be directed. Not just about this topic but about everything they do. I'm a firm believer that TV rots the brain and is for the masses of sheep who need to be told how to dress, live and eat. It's non-stop attack of products that eats people alive. It's sad that people are that weak and that easily influenced.
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I will agree with that 200%.....

how did i know you'd show up in here? oh i know... we just had this discussion in pattaya didn't we?




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first & foremost let me say this: i don't like what hip-hop has done to black culture. the attitudes & behaviors it supports perpetuate the ills of black culture in america & also perpetuate stereotypes that are seen & accepted around the world. hip-hop is POWERFUL - probably one of the most powerful forms of muscial expression the world has EVER seen. it has permeated all walks of life & is inescapable.... which is y it is so sad that it used in such a wreckless manner.

that being said, lemme address the original statement:


"majority of black people" is misused in this statement without saying "that i know or come in contact with". i don't behave like this and the majority of black people I KNOW don't act like this so, i can't relate.




black people say this a lot too... but its in a joking manner. most black people who were educated enough to actually get themselves together & get out of the ghetto don't behave like that around people who are also educated. its a matter of adapting to your environment. you go over to the neighborhood speaking "proper english", its likely you will get your ass whooped or robbed because that's just how it is, kid. if you speak in a manner where those who would rob you or kick your ass feel like you are not a stranger to "the hood" that is MUCH less likely to happen. those people who you are referring to may not be wise enough to know that "there is a time & a place".... another quote black people use often :winkwink"




people who run the media aren't too concerned about the effect they have on who's watching tv, they are concerned about profits. if its hot right now, they will feed on it & if that means acting "ghetto" because that's the current trend, they will do it. plug in a different type of music & the principle is the same, MTV & the rest are pressed about $$$ not about how those who are NOT buying feel.

oh, and i know there is nothing wrong with being black, it quite actually is BETTER to have dark skin... especially with the eroding ozone layer, etc. did you know that people with dark skin tones rarely (if ever?) get skin cancer? ah, the benefits of melenin that are never addressed by the media




hey, i don't wanna bash ya... like i said, some of the shit that bothers you in some way bothers me. just realize that if everyone acted the same, life would be pretty fucking boring & there will always be something that bothers us older folks about the current youth culture. ask the baby boomers who were irritated by heavy metal or rock... or whatever. "get dat dirt off ya shoulders!" - Jay-Z


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I know you and I have discussed this before, but we're on the same page. I agree with everything your saying.

To add... Heaven help you if a group of ghetto folk sit behind you at the movies. I don't know why they can't watch a movie in silence but they can't. Yelling at the actors like they can hear them... funny shit. "LOOK OUT BEHIND YOU!", "RUN BITCH RUN!", "AHHHH SHIT", "KILL THAT BITCH!"
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what I find really annoying are white people try to be "hommies".

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how did i know you'd show up in here? oh i know... we just had this discussion in pattaya didn't we?

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what I find really annoying are white people try to be "hommies".

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That is the crazy part, there are so many white kids around here that TRY so hard to be black, but they will be the same kids that will come online and make racist comments.
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I know you and I have discussed this before, but we're on the same page. I agree with everything your saying.

To add... Heaven help you if a group of ghetto folk sit behind you at the movies. I don't know why they can't watch a movie in silence but they can't. Yelling at the actors like they can hear them... funny shit. "LOOK OUT BEHIND YOU!", "RUN BITCH RUN!", "AHHHH SHIT", "KILL THAT BITCH!"

ROFLMAO!!!! - thas some true shit doh!



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I don't agree that all blacks act like gangbangers, etc. I have good friends who are black and I've never even seen them speak ebonics but I did notice that every god damn black rich boy on MTV Cribs who lives in a multimillion dollar home and has all the money in the world to `upgrade` the culture a little, still makes it a point to make sure that all the viewers understand that he's a gangbanger and a true homie.
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Very interesting thread. But why do people make theire post's too long? Posts that are over 2 lines long are shit, and the reader gets bored and fucks off..
Anyway, Nig Nogs should be wupped
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Very interesting thread. But why do people make theire post's too long? Posts that are over 2 lines long are shit, and the reader gets bored and fucks off..
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lol... you think 400 years of slavery in AMERICA didn't effect the blacks who descended from that very practice? please man... most black people IN AMERICA are here because of slavery and were bred like animals because that's how black people saw them. note that most black people in america are not "black" skinned either. none of them are pure because of slavery & owners fraternizing (raping or having relationships) with their female property. its not a hypoethesis, its fact. black people didn't hop on some boat voluntarily and say, "hey, i wanna live in america, the home of the brave where all people are equal".... fuck all that, they got here because of slavery & black men today are the result of that.

if you haven't noticed, black american men are built stronger & more muscular than black africans. why? once again, white people - to their credit - have bred the super negro & now "he" is superior athletically because of that while the white man simply runs the show. that is fact.


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speaking of facts, black people got to the good ol USA for slavery no thanks to their own brothers (aka, black people), SELLING them to good ol' whitey. Many, many tribal leaders were selling their own kind. That is fact.
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this is exactly what some people in this thread are saying, you spoke intelligently through all those posts, now look at your reply

its a running joke between me & a friend.... also, it IS true that many black people (americans at least) find the movie MORE entertaining when we do this. not ALL but it is true & not a steretype. i speak intelligently ALWAYS, son... don't forget it


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speaking of facts, black people got to the good ol USA for slavery no thanks to their own brothers (aka, black people), SELLING them to good ol' whitey. Many, many tribal leaders were selling their own kind. That is fact.

yep, you are absolutely right... money makes people do evil things. no one knows this BETTER than the white man (when i say white man i don't mean EVERY white person, but i'm speaking on the behavior of the race as whole throughout history, their tendency to pillage & plunder for financial gain without regard for the effects it has on the earth or humanity - no other race has shown this tendency & THAT is a fact).



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yep, you are absolutely right... money makes people do evil things. no one knows this BETTER than the white man (when i say white man i don't mean EVERY white person, but i'm speaking on the behavior of the race as whole throughout history, their tendency to pillage & plunder for financial gain without regard for the effects it has on the earth or humanity - no other race has shown this tendency & THAT is a fact).



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Tell us some of the racial tendencies that black people have.
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yep, you are absolutely right... money makes people do evil things. no one knows this BETTER than the white man (when i say white man i don't mean EVERY white person, but i'm speaking on the behavior of the race as whole throughout history, their tendency to pillage & plunder for financial gain without regard for the effects it has on the earth or humanity - no other race has shown this tendency & THAT is a fact).



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reminds of the brothers selling each other crack, thats quality They do a damn fine job of keeping themselves down.
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reminds of the brothers selling each other crack, thats quality They do a damn fine job of keeping themselves down.
you act like black people are the only ones doin crack LOL... don't ask me why i know but plenty of white people buy & smoke it too.... probably MORE than black people. this is a completely invalid & simply inflamatory response to a post of fact. either you accept it or you don't.



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Tell us some of the racial tendencies that black people have.
1) you're going waaaaay off the post subject
2) no NEGATIVE racial tendency is as apparent as the historical tendency of white men's pursuit of material gain. all others simply mimmick that tendency to the detriment of their own societies. please come at me with something better.



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is this another sarcasm post? cuz NOBODY can be this ignorant.




wait, wait.... i'm wrong, there are people MORE ignorant but this is pretty bad

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is this another sarcasm post? cuz NOBODY can be this ignorant.




wait, wait.... i'm wrong, there are people MORE ignorant but this is pretty bad

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a little term called 'aculturation' and sociology 101 explains a lot...ok ok ok, and "minority group relations 302" helped understanding it a bit as well...

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Slave breeding didn't go on a large scale for 400 years. Maybe on a small, regional, localized basis. In fact, up until the British banned Slave transatlanctic transport in the 1820s it was cheaper to supplement their slave force by buying new additions instead of breeding replacements. After 1820s, it became profitable to breed slaves because of lack of steady inputs of new imported slaves.

So, it's not exactly 400 years of mass scale genetic tampering and breeding.

and once on the african continent, who did the euro's buy these slaves from?


sad that their own people sold them to the white devil...


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yep, you are absolutely right... money makes people do evil things. no one knows this BETTER than the white man (when i say white man i don't mean EVERY white person, but i'm speaking on the behavior of the race as whole throughout history, their tendency to pillage & plunder for financial gain without regard for the effects it has on the earth or humanity - no other race has shown this tendency & THAT is a fact).

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Fact? No.

You just said "no other race" has shown this "tendency". That is complete bullshit. Several races have been known to "pillage and plunder", and to even attribute that action solely to a certain race is pretty stupid when its in human nature to do such things. Earth or humanity, eh? I had NO IDEA that the black race was full of so many tree hugging, peaceful people. Ooops, its not. No race is.

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Fact? No.

You just said "no other race" has shown this "tendency". That is complete bullshit. Several races have been known to "pillage and plunder", and to even attribute that action solely to a certain race is pretty stupid when its in human nature to do such things.
it is NOT human nature to travel to other places around the world & kill or steal people's land & possessions. name ONE RACE that has done that throughout history and CONTINUES to do it to this DAY outside of white men? excuse me, maybe i should have said "written history of" rather than "tendency to"

this isn't a black vs. white thing dude, so don't make in2 one. asians, indians, arabs, etc have never simply killed & plundered & destroyed in the name of material gain like white men in history have. you might be white & maybe you are not a part of that, that's certainly possible. but like it or not, it is a fact.


note: i think people on the whole try their best to be good no matter what race but i'm just stating fact & pointing out history... don't be white & say, that's fucked up he's talkin' bout white people like that, etc. i'm mad cuz he's talkin bout white people... if you claim your history, claim the good and the bad. no one's mad, no one hates ya... that's just life.
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its sad how blacks have it harder than everyone else...its real sad.
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Every group of people has a stereotype attached to it, and people within that group always conform to the stereotypes because they are MORONS. They dont know how stupid they look and they dont care because they saw so and so doing the same thing on tv.
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Umm...The conform to the sterotypes because of the people outside of the groups*
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