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Old 05-08-2005, 02:08 PM   #201
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Old 05-08-2005, 02:10 PM   #202
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Old 05-08-2005, 02:16 PM   #203
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maybe right away, but in Ross's case it would be 16 trials at $1 and 2 rebills at $40, so $48 in the end(50% revshare)....thats even worse than the $70 he made with pay per active. Those 2 members wont renew probably, if 2 out of 16 renew for him...so he gets even less with the % program
Andrej you know your shit buddy, I won't argue with ya. What I will say tho is what I said in my previous post, XGAPE is an extremely nice site, it converts great to trial for me. Just doesn't do so great onwards.

I guess I need to wait and see what changes take place to entice the members to stay longer. Perhaps the addition of some new sites to the Studio Cash programme will make people renew. Must be tough trying to get people to stay just for one site, when other programmes offer 10+ sites.

Only time will tell.
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Old 05-08-2005, 02:46 PM   #204
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Old 05-08-2005, 03:15 PM   #205
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Wonder if he'll call Lensman a hater..
He's just jealous.
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Old 05-08-2005, 03:17 PM   #206
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He's just jealous.
yep newbies these days are fucked up

Poor Meta, when it comesback home and sees all these posts and threads...

Juicy needs to hook him up with some Xanax
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Old 05-08-2005, 03:19 PM   #207
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I almost start feeling bad for the guy, until I read another of his posts and am reminded of what an arrogant liar he is.
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Old 05-08-2005, 03:22 PM   #208
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Andrej you know your shit buddy, I won't argue with ya. What I will say tho is what I said in my previous post, XGAPE is an extremely nice site, it converts great to trial for me. Just doesn't do so great onwards.

I guess I need to wait and see what changes take place to entice the members to stay longer. Perhaps the addition of some new sites to the Studio Cash programme will make people renew. Must be tough trying to get people to stay just for one site, when other programmes offer 10+ sites.

Only time will tell.
damn man I just checked that site....OF COURSE it's gonna convert well because the one dollar trial option is the first option in the drop down menu...that basically means that the dollar option is already PRECHECKED!

I could easily see a surfer saying, "Hey, what the hell? It's only a buck" and signs up especially with those good vidcaps on the tour....So what I'm assuming is that after they paid their dollar and busted their nut, their brains comes back down to normal and they say that there is no way in HELL that they're going to pay 38 bucks for some shit that they just jerked to for one measly dollar.

Man that will NEVER work....What he needs to do is dump the trial altogether and just choose a reasonable monthly fee.....I don't let my surfers even see one second of video of a hoe sucking my dick until they've paid at least $24.95 and up to $99.95..

If your shit is that good, just charge the surfer up front and get the pain part over with. Then you just keep adding content and the surfer will be more willing to let his card rebill since he's already been billed for the previous 30 days...

Metaformx couldn't have POSSIBLY consulted with anybody before he put that join page up. That's just inviting the cheapie surfers by the boatload.
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Old 05-08-2005, 05:48 PM   #209
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$35/active with 33% conversion is $11.66/signup - that's far from even a $25/trial

If you don't want to have exits and be agressive, just offer $20-25/trial signup and there you go. If you're going to offer both PPS and Revshare, you don't have to pay $35/trial while you learn the basics of running at PPS model.

Also, adding new prorgams in NATS is so ridiculously easy, you could keep offering per active, but at let's say $50/signup. Just a thought ;)

Other NATS program owners correct me if I'm wrong, but can we usually see the rebills with the sales in the same column like on his screenshot? Shouldn't only the new sales show up there, and you'd have to go to detailed stats report to see the rebills?
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Old 05-08-2005, 06:42 PM   #210
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Guess it's taking a long time to 'shop those promised server stats.
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Old 05-09-2005, 01:52 AM   #211
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Old 05-09-2005, 11:32 AM   #212
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I guess MetaformX forgot to bump this thread... I wonder why, according to him it was brining him a large number of new affiliates. He said he was going to keep bumping it.

You know what guys, I'm starting to suspect this guy may not be acting completely honest with us.
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Old 05-09-2005, 12:22 PM   #213
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I do understand the PPS game, and guess what? I am telling you right now that I can make more money in a PPS model.

So why am I going with a Partnership model over a PPS when I know that I will make more money in PPS?

I can go with the PPS model and compete with 20 other rerally good PPS programs, or I can go into the partnership model which I consider to be fairly unsaturated as far as a big program is concerned.

Most partnership programs are usually specific niche sites or single girl sites, there are not that many large affiliate programs that are operating in the Partnership field.

My vision is to make StudioCash the best partnership program on the net. That is why I am going with partnership and PPS.

Also, I should say that we are not moving from a PPS model to a Partnership, we have never had a PPS model, but were contemplating it.

We are moving from an Active payout model to a Partnership.
Why don't you offer both thats what I always do..
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Old 05-09-2005, 12:33 PM   #214
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Most partnership programs are usually specific niche sites or single girl sites, there are not that many large affiliate programs that are operating in the Partnership field.
Hmmmm...maybe it's because niche sites and single girl sites retain members. Large programs like yours generally make their $$$ on the upsells and shit. Your affiliates are going to make less money with you now and you know it.

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Old 05-09-2005, 07:41 PM   #215
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PPS or Rev Share? Which is better and why?

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PPS. It's better to take your money now and invest it rather than take a little more money a year down the line.
I wish you'd make up your mind, you look like a complete fool.
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Old 05-09-2005, 07:55 PM   #216
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PPS or Rev Share? Which is better and why?



I wish you'd make up your mind, you look like a complete fool.
lmfao, that's less than a month ago.
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Old 05-09-2005, 08:42 PM   #217
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PPS or Rev Share? Which is better and why?



I wish you'd make up your mind, you look like a complete fool.
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Old 05-09-2005, 08:45 PM   #218
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I guess MetaformX forgot to bump this thread... I wonder why, according to him it was brining him a large number of new affiliates. He said he was going to keep bumping it.

You know what guys, I'm starting to suspect this guy may not be acting completely honest with us.
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Old 05-10-2005, 05:11 AM   #219
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Old 05-10-2005, 05:11 AM   #220
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Old 05-10-2005, 05:16 AM   #221
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Whoops, bumped the wrong thread. All those studiocash threads look the same hehe.
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Old 05-10-2005, 05:31 AM   #222
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Whoops, bumped the wrong thread. All those studiocash threads look the same hehe.
Yes it is confusing. I think the newest one is the place to be
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Old 05-10-2005, 05:35 AM   #223
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Yes it is confusing. I think the newest one is the place to be
I just noticed Metadorks newest bs thread. What a load of shit. Unbefucklievable.
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Old 05-10-2005, 06:05 AM   #224
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Moves from PPS to Partnership generally mean death of a program.

Ask Xbangcash and others.
Not so my friend :-)
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Not so my friend :-)
The thing I hate most is going from revshare to per sign up. I dump a program if they do that shit.
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Old 05-10-2005, 07:22 AM   #226
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I don't let my surfers even see one second of video of a hoe sucking my dick until they've paid at least $24.95 and up to $99.95..
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:43 AM   #230
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They were solid as long as the kid's dad was pumping in money to bankroll them. If by solid you mean servers that go down all the time and sites that won't convert to save your life.
Interesting story about this, i was talking to the techs at my hosting center, (they all know im in the porn business) and they said another guy was in the porn hosting business in the center. But they said he couldnt pay his bills and they took all his servers and had them in storage. They brought me back there to look at them and they all had names like dugmor, and various other gfy'ers from years back. I later found out it was the kid from Like Whoa, and that daddy stopped pumping money into his business and they shut him down. He owed alot of freaking money to the bandwith providers and the hosting center when they shut him down.
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