During 2004 around five million adults and children became infected with HIV (Human Immunodeficiency Virus), the virus that causes AIDS. By the end of the year, an estimated 39.4 million people worldwide were living with HIV/AIDS. The year also saw more than three million deaths from AIDS, despite the availability of HIV antiretroviral therapy which reduced the number of deaths in high income countries.
I think taking sperm from ANYONE is pretty risky in general.
Just once I would like a narrow minded imbecile like to you to specifically PRESENT the case of HOW/WHY/WHEN/WHERE homosexuals are destroying the family unit or marriage between a man and a woman.
Fucked up parents = Fucked up kids.
Simple as that, you're the one being narrow minded.
There's a lot of in your face examples that will show you how having an unbalanced family structure can lead to problems for a child (mentally and socially).
how can it be legal to ask them stuff like that? if the sperm of some person isnt good enough, they can refuse it, but they cant refuse a guy just because he is gay...
Homosexual people are destroying the family unit of mother, father and child by crying for equal rights to marriage and such. They have no right participating in this..
Not to mention, what if teh child theyf atehr grows up, finds out who the father is and finds out he's a homosexual, wouldn't that be kind of traumatic to someone?
#1 straight people are doing a good enough job at fucking up the family unit in their own right..don't go looking for a scape goat on your own failures.
#2 Only if assholes raise their kids to think it is traumatic to know a gay person.
There's a lot of in your face examples that will show you how having an unbalanced family structure can lead to problems for a child (mentally and socially).
Bigots would rather a child be in a M/F parent household where the drunk dad beats the shit out of them than in a safe and loving household with 2 men or women. Makes sense to me... why let a kid grow up learning acceptance when they can be learning how to smack their bitch up properly?
Just once I would like a narrow minded imbecile like to you to specifically PRESENT the case of HOW/WHY/WHEN/WHERE homosexuals are destroying the family unit or marriage between a man and a woman.
You just utter pure garbage and want everyone to believe it is true, yet you give not one IOTA of substance to back up your argument.
problem is you can't just give gay people the right to marry. You'll have to let those who want to marry 20 women or a cow the same right.
you don't even know me, im just some guy with less then 1k posts on here, nobody even notices me, so what do you know about me that would cause you to say that?
you don't even know me, im just some guy with less then 1k posts on here, nobody even notices me, so what do you know about me that would cause you to say that?
thats what i thought, now stfu
and I am sure you know all the gay people that are so bad that you would kill yourself should you be the spawn of one
you don't even know me, im just some guy with less then 1k posts on here, nobody even notices me, so what do you know about me that would cause you to say that?
thats what i thought, now stfu
You don't have to convince me of your insignificance...
lol..are you auditioning for the position of the anti-12clicks?
LOL
Actually I'm just in a frisky mood this morning. Gotta go get a wisdom tooth pulled in about an hour so I'm having a little fun in case I don't feel like it later
lets have a moment of silence for gay sperm
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ok thats over.. off to find a more important thread, theres gotta be a 'would you hit it" on the first page somewhere
LOL
Actually I'm just in a frisky mood this morning. Gotta go get a wisdom tooth pulled in about an hour so I'm having a little fun in case I don't feel like it later
aww...i had that done a few years ago. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be (and I was kept awake for it) but it wasn't a walk in the park either.
aww...i had that done a few years ago. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be (and I was kept awake for it) but it wasn't a walk in the park either.
It's the bottom right one. I'm going to the same dentist who pulled the one above it. He used novocaine shots. I only felt the pressure of him moving it around, it wasn't bleeding when I got home and removed the swab, no pain when the shot wore off and the next day the gap had filled in and I was only aware of having had it done if I stuck my tongue there and was eating anything I wanted. I'm hoping for something like that today
It's amazing how many stupid people there still are out there. These kind of hate threads really bring the morons out of the woodwork.
well, this is not a hate response or a moronic response.
the "homosexual agenda lobbyists" cannot have it both ways.
some basics:
1. in the real world most parents if asked this question "if you had a choice of whether your child will grow up gay or straight which would you choose?" --- overwhelmingly the answer would be "i would prefer my child would grow up straight, my kid would have less problems, and i might have a better chance having grandchildren, and if he would become a gay male he will have a statistically lower lifespan---which i don't want for my son"
2. the homosexual agenda has asserted for years that homosexuality is not a "choice" thing---it is genetic...i.e. don't blame me for taking it up the ass, i was born with this need"---ok, finally most folks buy this argument---and there is some scientific basis for the argument.
3. where do genetics come from?---think about that for 2 seconds.
and then think about whether you want gay male jism in the gene pool if you are planning on becoming a parent.
it is more than just a disease issue---smart people know it is also a genetics issue, but it is not politically correct to say it.
Heaven forbid your sperm donor kid turns out to be a fabulous designer
ask a thousand potential parents if they want their boys to grow up to be fashion designers, hair stylists, cosmetologists, or american idol wannabes singing in effeminate falsettos.
ask if they'd prefer to hold some grandchildren in their arms one day.
ask them if they would like to worry everytime sonny picks up a new friend in the steambath.
most potential parents, if they believe the hypothesis that homosexuality is predisposed by genetics would NOT want to accept gay male sperm for artificial insemination.
that is my point, and the point is valid. it is a public choice issue, not a morality issue.
How great that all the narrow minded, bigot porn slingers in here can have all the kinds they want.
They play in to the ultra right wing agenda that, were it to have its way, would put them outta business and take their kids away too.
Fitting.
I'm gonna start an underground movement of gay men who lie about their sexual history and orientation so that we can contaminate the donated sperm supply with our sinister gay seed and breed the heterosexuals out of existence. wewt wewt!
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ask a thousand potential parents if they want their boys to grow up to be fashion designers, hair stylists, cosmetologists, or american idol wannabes singing in effeminate falsettos.
ask if they'd prefer to hold some grandchildren in their arms one day.
ask them if they would like to worry everytime sonny picks up a new friend in the steambath.
most potential parents, if they believe the hypothesis that homosexuality is predisposed by genetics would NOT want to accept gay male sperm for artificial insemination.
that is my point, and the point is valid. it is a public choice issue, not a morality issue.
All your points in the above post relying on baseless stereotypes.
I don't disagree with you that most parents would not want their children to be homosexuals. I think that's a true and sound statement.
But I think your argument has a lot more merit when it isn't based on senseless stereotypes and generalizations. If a parent doesn't want their kid to grow up to be gay because of the steambath/americanidol/falsetto stuff, it's that parents own fault for being uninformed and ignorant.
Whereas if the parent doesn't want their own child to grow up to be gay based on the potential to have grandchildren, the child suffering through discrimination and alienation, and more sensibly reasonable reasons why a parent could have a problem with it, they can't be blamed at all for that.
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well, this is not a hate response or a moronic response.
the "homosexual agenda lobbyists" cannot have it both ways.
some basics:
1. in the real world most parents if asked this question "if you had a choice of whether your child will grow up gay or straight which would you choose?" --- overwhelmingly the answer would be "i would prefer my child would grow up straight, my kid would have less problems, and i might have a better chance having grandchildren, and if he would become a gay male he will have a statistically lower lifespan---which i don't want for my son"
2. the homosexual agenda has asserted for years that homosexuality is not a "choice" thing---it is genetic...i.e. don't blame me for taking it up the ass, i was born with this need"---ok, finally most folks buy this argument---and there is some scientific basis for the argument.
3. where do genetics come from?---think about that for 2 seconds.
and then think about whether you want gay male jism in the gene pool if you are planning on becoming a parent.
it is more than just a disease issue---smart people know it is also a genetics issue, but it is not politically correct to say it.
yes, i had a real estate brokerage in SF in the 80's and the majority of my best agents were gay, we specialized in the western addition, the haight, noe valley, the castro, duboce park areas.
75% of those young agents are now in the ground due to aids. they were all smart young guys in their 20's and 30's. history, GONE.
if you want a historical perspective read randy shilts "and the band played on"---shilts is now dead of aids.
i know all the facts about HIV, and i am not a homophobe. these days nobody gives a shit is someone is a rump wrangler, but the sexually active gay male group is statistically a VERY unhealthy group, and there are medically valid and socially valid arguments for the position that gay semen should not be used for artificial insemination.
and the only thing that really irks me is that the "gay agenda" sugarcoats the facts:
everyone can sit around and chuckle watching will and grace, but check this:
fact: incidences of new hiv infections amongst young gay males are on the RISE in the USA after years of decline.
fact: incidences of syphilis and hepatitus are on the RISE in gay males after many years of decline in the USA.
fact: lots of "barebacking" by young gay males---it's the new in vogue activity, still lots of irresponsible gay anonymous sex, and irresponsible webmasters who promote it on websites.
this is stuff no one likes to hear, but it is the truth.
many people are not controlling their personal behavior---and this effects the lives of many other innocent people, and that ain't cool.
you kids need to educate yourself. i don't claim to be politically correct, but if i can take one kid's mind off going to a party tonight and getting his ass fucked by a stranger i've done some good today.
fact: cases of HIV amongst straight women are on the rise too
You seem to have lived at ground zero of the American end of the epidemic. A lot of us remember friends dying at huge rates. I was young but worked in peer to peer HIV education since I was in my early teens so I too experienced many friends and mentors dying. Infact, I went into a supreme depression in my junior year in high school when I was hearing on an almost monthly basis of another teeneager I knew that had died.
However, don't even try to suggest that gay men are the only people who have unprotected sex. Don't even try to say they are the only ones with STDS. I would rather any kid I ever have be gay than ignorant and bigotted.
I'm hoping it's not lost on you that rates of HIV infection among heterosexuals - especially young heterosexuals - are likewise increasing. Sometimes at drastic rates.
No one could justifiably dispute that among homosexual males, HIV is most definitely an issue.
But attempting to paint HIV as a gay man's disease leads to a false sense of security among straight people who assume they're free from risk.
Look at straight porn, afterall. With almost no condoms to be found anywhere and this testing program that seems to disregard HIV's dormancy period in test results?
If people think that rising infection rates, unsafe sexual practices and the likelihood of being infected with HIV are problems unique to homosexuals, they're not doing themselves any favors nor in possession of a very informed view on things.
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folks get all lathered up about this and defensive on a bunch of other issues.
your points are well taken, but superfluous to the issue re: the question of whether it is good public policy to use gay male semen for artificial insemination, and my response to that question is narrow.
i don't think it is good policy, and i would agree with the FDA as a taxpayer and a parent.
and folks can talk all around that with bogus rebuttals to the idea, but i doubt if anyone can challenge the validity of the facts i present.
true, and the price of tea in china is what these days.
straight women are not donating semen.
also up amongst straight men as are other STDS..my point was just isolating one group in your statements make it sound as if they are the only troubled group.
Fucked up parents = Fucked up kids.
Simple as that, you're the one being narrow minded.
There's a lot of in your face examples that will show you how having an unbalanced family structure can lead to problems for a child (mentally and socially).
Oh..as simple as that eh? If you're gay, you're "fucked up", but of course all straight parents are "normal/well adjusted" people.
P.S. This has NOTHING to do with the original thread either.
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