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Old 05-05-2005, 03:02 PM   #51
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You have my word that my wife built those sites, or that someone who creates a work holds the copyright?

And what agreement are you talking about, do you have some agreement that lets you remove someone's name AND replace it with your own?

Removing it is one thing, but your name got smeared when you replaced it with yours. All I did was find out about it.

I don't care what your friends do. Maybe you can ask them about the definition of copyright on paper, film, or as a record on the internet.

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Old 05-05-2005, 03:06 PM   #52
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Not really a professional response from MacDaddyBucks. You guys could just contacted eachother by phone or icq and fix this in a '' more gentle way ''.
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Old 05-05-2005, 03:06 PM   #53
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I so happen to consider some of the top designers in this busiess my friends, they all use portfolios to show their clients, not live sites, as live sites are dynamic and can change at any time.

You made your bed, you get to sleep in it.
Anthony...I did have everything running from my site as examples. That is exactly why I had them running from my own site. I think AST just remembered that site name and typed it in rather than going to my site and finding the link that I had to it. I have been designing for a long time now and consider myself to be very proessional and easy to work with.

I apologize to you and your company for this thread.
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Old 05-05-2005, 03:08 PM   #54
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Gonzo told you if you wanna fly a bigassed banner in yr sig on our board , a reciprocal in the resources area would be good.

And you totally lost it.

( thats why we were laughing at you LOL.)

Pretty much like you have here.

The only other dealings I have had with you is when you asked me if I could help you get the 3.75 (or something) owed to you by The Butcher

People have told me privately you need certain medicines , please take them in a timely manner.

You have even embarrassed your wife. And whats worse possibly cost her income.If I was you I'd quit before she tears your nads off. Though she has done a pretty good job at ripping them off in public already in her previous post LOL

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Old 05-05-2005, 03:09 PM   #55
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my hamster made all the nastydollars site but didn't get any credit... how fucked up is that?
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Old 05-05-2005, 03:09 PM   #56
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It's a very nice design
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Old 05-05-2005, 03:15 PM   #57
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Not really a professional response from MacDaddyBucks. You guys could just contacted eachother by phone or icq and fix this in a '' more gentle way ''.
who started the thread?????????
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Old 05-05-2005, 03:57 PM   #58
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haha man, Adult Site Traffic you lost got 0wned in this thread, you have zero reputation now! haha
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Old 05-05-2005, 04:00 PM   #59
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haha man, Adult Site Traffic you lost got 0wned in this thread, you have zero reputation now! haha
How's that? Because some company came along and intentionally removed my wife's name to put their copyright on my wife's work?

How is that me being owned?

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Old 05-05-2005, 04:04 PM   #60
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I do love the design ......... but ............ AST, maybe a simple e-mail and/or a phone call would indeed have been a better choice before coming to this board ?
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Old 05-05-2005, 04:10 PM   #62
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I do love the design ......... but ............ AST, maybe a simple e-mail and/or a phone call would indeed have been a better choice before coming to this board ?
Yes, you're right.

Like I said I was showing it to a potential client and I saw how my wife had been removed and they had claimed the copyright. I'm tired of her getting shit on for her work, she's a hell of a designer and has never fucked anyone.

There was never any money changing hands for many of those designs, and the ones that were was minimal.

It's true that MDB didn't commission her to design them.

It's also true that they claim copyright which is not theirs to claim. Even now, they still do.

I don't care if I have a bad rep and I don't care if she's too quiet to step up and say something. She just told me today that she knew they removed her months ago.

That's fucked up.

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Old 05-05-2005, 04:12 PM   #63
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HA HA!
Yea? Well, I remember when you and your wife/gf were designing BYOT's. How would you have liked if someone else esentially claimed your work?

Hmm ?

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Old 05-05-2005, 04:16 PM   #64
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I just think it's pretty shitty that they claim copyright on my wife's work that she did for free.

All she had for payment was a link. That's been removed AND her credit for the work was stolen.

I can't make them put it back, but I guarantee you that I can make them wish they didn't take it off :D

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now that just ain't right, that they took her name off, AND she did the sites for free.. some people's are real fucking asswipes.
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Old 05-05-2005, 04:18 PM   #65
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Yea? Well, I remember when you and your wife/gf were designing BYOT's. How would you have liked if someone else esentially claimed your work?

Hmm ?

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They have and I have gotten shit for people saying I did the same thing.

I bought a site from someone here and it turns out that he got all the work done on spec, in return for links to the designer on the site. This was not mentioned to me at the time of the sale, or I wouldn't have made the purchase.

Unless you had a contract with them or the original owner, they should be able to do with their purchase whatever they choose. Unless it was in their contract to keep the links up, they're not bound to.
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now that just ain't right, that they took her name off, AND she did the sites for free.. some people's are real fucking asswipes.
The sites were not free to them. If I'm not mistaken, AST has some sort of connection to CSW.

Did you have some sort of agreement with Tam to keep those links on the sites if and when she decided to sell them?
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Old 05-05-2005, 04:25 PM   #67
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The sites were not free to them. If I'm not mistaken, AST has some sort of connection to CSW.

Did you have some sort of agreement with Tam to keep those links on the sites if and when she decided to sell them?
You're missing the point between a link and CLAIMING COPYRIGHT.

If they wanted to remove it, fine, but instead THEY CLAIMED THE COPYRIGHT.

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Old 05-05-2005, 04:28 PM   #68
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No. You don't. You're wrong. Unless you bought the copyright from the creator, you don't own copyright to the work. Ask your lawyers.

Just like you can't buy an image from a content producer and then put your copyright on it. It's not your work.

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Old 05-05-2005, 04:37 PM   #69
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You're missing the point between a link and CLAIMING COPYRIGHT.

If they wanted to remove it, fine, but instead THEY CLAIMED THE COPYRIGHT.

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I have built a number of sites for others. I can pull them up right now and see "Copyright 2005 Some Company Name" right now. Do I care, no skin off of my teeth. They paid me, they can do what they want with it.

I don't see why you're make such a big deal out of it, unless it's just that you thrive on drama. They own the sites, there's nothing you can do or force them to do without hurting yourself in the longrun. Expecially if you haven't gone about securing your copyright in the proper fashion. If you have, shut them down...don't bring it to the boards. If you haven't, you're up shit's creek I guess.

Had you acted rationally and reasonbly, it looks like they would have been more than happy to help you out. Instead, you handled this completely wrong and now have fucked your wife out of even more work.

Just think before you type. Perhaps this wouldn't be such a big mess if you had done that for even a second.
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Hrm. No offence geared your way at all dude but when a site owns a design (which they do because your wife designed it for Tam and Tam sold the sites all to these guys) they are the copyright holders on it unless there were special circumstances in writing that the creater holds all intelectual rights and credits.

When I design sites for clients they put their own copyright on the pages. It doesn't mean they are taking credit for my work but stating that they own the intelectual property which is design, layout and texts. Even if I built it for free, which I have

Maybe you feel this is different since she did them for free, however, all that would really be due is credit, copyright is a seperate thing altogether.

anyways, again, no offense meant, just giving some insight.
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How ironic to have the biggest copyright infringer on GFY throwing their 2 cents into this thread. You know who you are.
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Hrm. No offence geared your way at all dude but when a site owns a design (which they do because your wife designed it for Tam and Tam sold the sites all to these guys) they are the copyright holders on it unless there were special circumstances in writing that the creater holds all intelectual rights and credits.

When I design sites for clients they put their own copyright on the pages. It doesn't mean they are taking credit for my work but stating that they own the intelectual property which is design, layout and texts. Even if I built it for free, which I have

Maybe you feel this is different since she did them for free, however, all that would really be due is credit, copyright is a seperate thing altogether.

anyways, again, no offense meant, just giving some insight.
You are right. I am sure the new owner would have given credit to the designer if he knew the situation.
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Old 05-05-2005, 09:44 PM   #73
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Maybe I shouldn't have, but it's done. I was showing a potential client what I claimed my wife's work and he noticed that it had someone else's copyright on it he and bailed.

They pissed me off. Claiming copyright means you're the creator. They didn't create it. That's different than trademark.

Just like you can't claim copyright to content that you didn't shoot. I mean you can, but that means you're saying you shot it.

The only person I know of from that company is MacDaddyPlaya and the olly time I've seen him he is a dick. I didn't e-mail him.

And Nick, tell everyone the reason that Gonzo threw me off of Oprano. It's because he tried to FORCE me to put his button on adult-site-traffic.com and I told him to fuck off.

And Anthony, GFY. If I wanted to see you in deep shit I could do it with a couple e-mails. That's the truth. And no amount of lawyers are going to be able to help you with that because you won't have a damned thing to bring against me for showing you in violation

You can't really sue someone when you're the one who's wrong, even if you have a thousand lawyers.

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You live in your own world. When you ran around last month whining about not being able to sig whore your mexican chinese traffic site without a recip link I reminded you again... we just took away your sig.

I think its funny as hell your wife gave you ass up like a a "prag" from Oz.
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The banner thing isn't true...he never flew a big banner in his sig, just the same 120x60 button that I made. Someone over at that other board saw that www.adult-site-traffic.com had a good google rank and decided to try to get AST to run a banner for him on the traffic site, and when he said no, AST was told that he could no longer run a banner at that board. That is when things got nasty. AND AST never asked you to help him get any money rom the butcher..that is too funny.

I do howver, agree with the fact I am embarrased because of this thread. This is the first and LAST time that AST will ever be inolved in my design work. Luckily, most of my business is not from GFY, I keep a low profile and I'm a nice person.
Bullshit! Feel free to search over there a=for the thread and see for yourself.
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Gonzo told you if you wanna fly a bigassed banner in yr sig on our board , a reciprocal in the resources area would be good.

And you totally lost it.

( thats why we were laughing at you LOL.)

Pretty much like you have here.

The only other dealings I have had with you is when you asked me if I could help you get the 3.75 (or something) owed to you by The Butcher

People have told me privately you need certain medicines , please take them in a timely manner.

You have even embarrassed your wife. And whats worse possibly cost her income.If I was you I'd quit before she tears your nads off. Though she has done a pretty good job at ripping them off in public already in her previous post LOL

Back to my own board now

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This is unrelated to what this adulttraffic guy is saying by the way
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