First of all, my first post had no attitude whatsoever. It was after you used the word dumbass that I went off on you.

Secondly, you can't seem to see that those 15 to 20 signups ARE worth less to the sponsor.
Like I said before, if you convert 1 in 500 then that's 499 people the sponsor has a chance to sell something else to, this raises the value per sign up.

Also these "clean" tours usually have no geo-targeting on them either. (TGP's won't allow that, and the sponsors know most of the affiliates using the clean tours are sending TGP traffic)
By not being able to geo-target the tour and send the foreign traffic to a dialer, you again reduce the value of each credit card signup.

If you want to get paid what you're traffic is really worth, send it to a revshare program.

:2 cents:

Popup killers, yes.... being used more and more by surfers.

You just reminded me.... another little tactic some sites use is that they put code on their exit chain to prevent you from being able to "Ctrl-W" to kill each one as it loads. I hate that.

I agree with that. I think M$ or someone else will find a way to block them that our coders can't get around.

You may not be aware of this, I don't know how much you get out and all, but there are several programs out there who have a torrent of popups on their sites whether you choose the partnership OR per signup option. In other words, even with the revshare you still must choose the no-console option in order to promote a clean tour.

Also, in trying to sell to those other 499 surfers, my point here is that sponsors do NOT have to chain ten fucking consoles in order to do it. There are plenty that seem to do quite nicely with only 1 or 2 in place.

Would you say that some sponsors don't pay the affiliate for sales off of those exit consoles?


I have several sponsors that I am 100% certain I am credited with any and all exit signups (barring any incidental shaving that may or may not take place), but I have several that I'm just not certain at all about, with regard to exit sales.