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Old 05-04-2005, 02:50 PM   #1
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Here we Go - National ID Cards

Hackers all over the world licking their lips
The Corporation battle is on! The winner of the software for the USA National ID card will gain access to all the 260 Million People required to carry it

It will we voted on any day now. Get ready.. To cough up your entire life and medical information on a small computer chip. Also your lifestyle, (watch porn??) Your sexual preference, single, married? How often?

Thumb Print

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Whatever!

I bet the Book
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will be a hit (again)

So,, ready to cough up every bit of information about your life? For the world to see? Don't worry, you only give it to the Government, what could possible go wrong with that?
Unless you are of course doing something the Born Again Christians who run the country right now don't like

Sounds familiar? Read "The Mark of the Beast" It's very scary

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Old 05-04-2005, 02:52 PM   #2
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No news link?
Ok chalked this up as BS for now.
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No news link?
Ok chalked this up as BS for now.

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REAL ID Act of 2005 (Referred to Senate Committee after being Received from House)
SEC. 202. MINIMUM DOCUMENT REQUIREMENTS AND ISSUANCE STANDARDS FOR FEDERAL RECOGNITION.
(a) Minimum Standards for Federal Use-
(1) IN GENERAL- Beginning 3 years after the date of the enactment of this Act, a Federal agency may not accept, for any official purpose, a driver's license or identification card issued by a State to any person unless the State is meeting the requirements of this section.
(2) STATE CERTIFICATIONS- The Secretary shall determine whether a State is meeting the requirements of this section based on certifications made by the State to the Secretary of Transportation. Such certifications shall be made at such times and in such manner as the Secretary of Transportation, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, may prescribe by regulation.
(b) Minimum Document Requirements- To meet the requirements of this section, a State shall include, at a minimum, the following information and features on each driver's license and identification card issued to a person by the State:
(1) The person's full legal name.
(2) The person's date of birth.
(3) The person's gender.
(4) The person's driver's license or identification card number.
(5) A digital photograph of the person.
(6) The person's address of principle residence.
(7) The person's signature.
(8) Physical security features designed to prevent tampering, counterfeiting, or duplication of the document for fraudulent purposes.
(9) A common machine-readable technology, with defined minimum data elements.
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so, Orwell was off by a couple of decades...
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so, Orwell was off by a couple of decades...

Winston is among us...

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I agree this is bad news

Maybe if we didn't let tens of millions of fuckin illegal aliens invade this country we wouldn't have the government doing stupid shit like this...

Stock up on shotguns and canned food - it's war - and it's coming sooner than you think
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Old 05-04-2005, 03:43 PM   #10
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Stock up on shotguns and canned food - it's war - and it's coming sooner than you think
I'll take my m16 thanks. Standard ammunition :D
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Old 05-04-2005, 06:57 PM   #11
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I agree this is bad news

Maybe if we didn't let tens of millions of fuckin illegal aliens invade this country we wouldn't have the government doing stupid shit like this...

Stock up on shotguns and canned food - it's war - and it's coming sooner than you think
I doubt it has anything to do with illegal aliens, more with empowerment of the Government.

"The evil world leader Nicolae Carpathia officially takes his place as the Antichrist and begins his three-and-a-half year reign of terror over the earth. Technology provides the means to place the mark of the beast on every human, and the Trib Force scrambles to survive."

Without the Mark of the Beast you are unable to purchase, get jobs, mortgages.. You are in a huge database.. This is way to realistic people. What did our government do. Read the book and say "Hey that's a great idea!"

Ah well whatever.. The sky is falling
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BTW, this book was released on November 1st 2000.. Interesting date don't you think?
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I think that BISH is doing his best to fuck this country up. And this is just one more way to do it. It will only cause more problems.
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next thing you know, we all will have to have bar codes on the back of our necks for instant scanning for indentification purposes
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so, Orwell was off by a couple of decades...

let the revolution begin : )
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FUCKING HILARIOUS

As for the rest of the thread

(insert Command & Conquer's, "Red Alert" music here).

Nothing quite as scary as the German boot marching sound of the WWII era, with some music, and Hitler's voice over.

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The mark of the beast is upon us.....
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Mark my fucking words. I will DIE before they take my information. This is motherfucking america. What have we become?
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I doubt it has anything to do with illegal aliens, more with empowerment of the Government.

"The evil world leader Nicolae Carpathia officially takes his place as the Antichrist and begins his three-and-a-half year reign of terror over the earth. Technology provides the means to place the mark of the beast on every human, and the Trib Force scrambles to survive."

Without the Mark of the Beast you are unable to purchase, get jobs, mortgages.. You are in a huge database.. This is way to realistic people. What did our government do. Read the book and say "Hey that's a great idea!"

Ah well whatever.. The sky is falling
Damn - you're thinking mark of the beast - this shit is scary

ACtually, it has everything to do with illegal immigration. The first legislation for Real ID was vetoed by the Bush in 2004... but anti-illegal immigration congressman like Tancredo and Sensebrennar pushed through the Real ID act to prevent illegals from getting drivers licenses. IT barely passed the Senate and it's because of hte anti-illegal groups lobbying efforts

Unfortunately, I agree that illegals shouldn't get licenses. But the Real ID act is clearly going to lead us to national ID and then Mark of the Beast

Scary shit - If the government would just control of our damn borders then terrible legislation like this wouldn't be proposed in the first place
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Mark my fucking words. I will DIE before they take my information. This is motherfucking america. What have we become?
Right on! You and me both

Get your guns, ammo, and canned food ready. The shit is gonna hit the fan soon!
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Hackers all over the world licking their lips
The Corporation battle is on! The winner of the software for the USA National ID card will gain access to all the 260 Million People required to carry it

It will we voted on any day now. Get ready.. To cough up your entire life and medical information on a small computer chip. Also your lifestyle, (watch porn??) Your sexual preference, single, married? How often?

Thumb Print

Oh Yeah,, Terrorist would never lie on those applications, they just write under Job Info Terr...

Whatever!

I bet the Book
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by Jack Luger
will be a hit (again)

So,, ready to cough up every bit of information about your life? For the world to see? Don't worry, you only give it to the Government, what could possible go wrong with that?
Unless you are of course doing something the Born Again Christians who run the country right now don't like

Sounds familiar? Read "The Mark of the Beast" It's very scary


I have that book
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"States still could give licenses to illegal immigrants, but they would have different designs or colors to alert security officers that they are unacceptable as IDs for boarding planes or entering federal buildings."

Well at least they will still be able to drive with no insurance and hit us.
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Mark my fucking words. I will DIE before they take my information. This is motherfucking america. What have we become?
Smack you think we have real freedom and control in this country?

This country was created based on a tax revolt against the King of England. Now look at what they do to us.

When the US Government decided they had the right to tax its citizens in the early 1900's that was the beginning of the end of our freedom.

The US Government will spend something like $2.7 Trillion dollars in its next budget. It doesn't even balance its own checkbook in doing so and is short about $400 Billion a year. It is filled with waste, fraud, corruption, power mongers, agencies accountable to no one, a military that wants to OWN the entire planet by force of nuclear weapons, and on and on.

Read deep into the appropriations bills. You will want to puke with the allocations of funds for the most ridiculous things you can imagine.

We are no longer in control. The government is. To get on an airplane government workers get to feel up your woman. Think about that. Think long and hard. They get to put their hands all over your gal. WTF? They can make you take off your shoes. Under the Patriot Act they can get search warrants to see what kinds of books you read at the library.

Think about all the government cameras watching our every move all day long. Spy satelittes also listening in to phone calls, all the TCP/IP traffic, your faxes, your cell phones.

Our government is out of control. Totally out of control. It is a power unto itself now.

We are fucked. They can do anything they want to us and we are virtually powerless to do anything about it.

And when you do stand up to them you get Waco'd.
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Another intrusive thing I'm sure we'll all experience in our lifetime will be chip embedded drivers licenses / nat id cards.

Then we will be tracked just like FedEx packages wherever we go.
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When I was a kid in school we were taught that the US was so much better than all those communist countries because THOSE people couldn't travel freely and had have an identity card. That wasn't so in the US because our government was FOR the people. This was in the late 50's and 60's.

I have no idea what they're teaching in schools now.. it's scary.
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i have no reservations about dying a martyr. the power to change is inherent in the people.
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2+2 has = 5 for quite some time.
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Put the Chip in Your.....

Gucci Wallets, Prada Purses, Sell clothes with chips in them like belts and Coat Bottons.......


Hell! Just get a cingular wireless CellPhone.................


Immagration act 1996


I'll Be ready to sell Immagrants Prepaid Cash Cards. One of the top 5 incomes for mexico was money tranfered from the United States. Thats a shit load of Card-2-Card Transfers.
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In case anyone has any doubts as to who's running the show....



Feel free to pull up a google map of DC to verify.
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Here ya go. Proof positive how fucked up they are with OUR money.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...NlYwMlJVRPUCUl

What a fucking joke.
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wow, I live in 3 different states technically, I move around as I need by RV- I have no real home address, I just have Po's in 3 states. quess I'm screwed.
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The Government was out of control long before they started taxing us. The constitution was written in pencil so that it could be changed.

The constitution still says that it is illegal for the government to tax your income. But they do it.

as for the Micro chips in your DL or ID card. Lay that fucker on a nice stong magnet. Chip is out of service.
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...NlYwMlJVRPUCUl

What a fucking joke.
It's easy to account for -- someone stole it like usual.
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I dont live in the US anymore, and need to renew my License. I know that it is going to be a fucking nightmare. I can not get a License here, because I have not lived here long enough.
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as for the Micro chips in your DL or ID card. Lay that fucker on a nice stong magnet. Chip is out of service.
Be prepared to be treated like a criminal whenever you shop, travel, or do anything. They'll probably call the cops on you and your out of service card.
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Don't worry.. they'll take care of your nomadic lifestyle when they start taxing you by the mile and putting up TOLL BOOTHS ON ROADS everywhere. Between near future gas prices (headed to $7+ per gallon) and all these new road taxes, you'll probably be grounded.

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(b) Minimum Document Requirements- To meet the requirements of this section, a State shall include, at a minimum, the following information and features on each driver's license and identification card issued to a person by the State:
(1) The person's full legal name.
(2) The person's date of birth.
(3) The person's gender.
(4) The person's driver's license or identification card number.
(5) A digital photograph of the person.
(6) The person's address of principle residence.
(7) The person's signature.
(8) Physical security features designed to prevent tampering, counterfeiting, or duplication of the document for fraudulent purposes.
(9) A common machine-readable technology, with defined minimum data elements.
Unless someone's got a really old license or they live in a really backwards state, I think this is already standard. Looking at mine, it definitely meets the criteria.
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As it says in the bible, something along the lines of "whomsoever accepts the mark of the beast, also drinks the wine of the wrath of god"

Somehow, I aint feelin too thirsty right now.
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Unless someone's got a really old license or they live in a really backwards state, I think this is already standard. Looking at mine, it definitely meets the criteria.

Yes, but the gov wants it to be centralized and controlled at the national level Vs. the state level.
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Yes, but the gov wants it to be centralized and controlled at the national level Vs. the state level.
As if the government doesn't issue passports already?

We really need to chunk the entire beauracracy and start again at the Constitutional level.
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Sounds like standard ID - nothing new.

As long as they don't add fingerprints and/or dna as requirement, it's just like most legal ID.

But before getting too excited, does w know this is going on?

Apparently, last month the US announced that Canadians would have to show passports at the US border - needless to say, Canada had some feedback to offer.

Suddenly, the requirement was reversed, citing that w was not aware of this program and he did not think it was a good idea.

So, I wouldn't worry just yet...
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