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Old 05-05-2005, 11:07 AM   #1
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Downfall of the TGP

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Old 05-05-2005, 11:10 AM   #2
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Unfortunately no. But a change is DEFINITELY needed.
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Old 05-05-2005, 11:11 AM   #3
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The last option should be "No, but a change IS needed".

I know some have expressed that TGPs should go away.
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don't see it happening anytime soon captn...
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Old 05-05-2005, 11:15 AM   #6
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Unfortunately no. But a change is DEFINITELY needed.

I know that when a TGP gets listed on my top list, I have to remind a lot of them to not send blind traffic. Blind traffic only wastes bandwidth and sponsors have already started kicking them out of programs.
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Old 05-05-2005, 11:17 AM   #7
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Oh please, shut the fuck up.
Only the other day you were asking the differences between PPS and RevShare.
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Old 05-05-2005, 11:19 AM   #8
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I keep hearing about XYZ killing TGPs.
But it's TGPs that have killed Link Lists, TGP2 and will kill blogs.

Remind me again, who the fuck supplies content and FREE HOSTED GALLERIES to TGPs?
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Old 05-05-2005, 11:21 AM   #9
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Oh please, shut the fuck up.
Only the other day you were asking the differences between PPS and RevShare.


LOL. I don't make my revenue using sponsors, so I'm a newbie in some areas.
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Not 'downfall of' just 'change of' the tgp...
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Old 05-05-2005, 02:17 PM   #12
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Unfortunately no. But a change is DEFINITELY needed.
couldn't agree more.. I haven't submitted in years, the rules just got to be 2 much for me.
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Old 05-05-2005, 02:23 PM   #15
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Yes. Pretty soon.
And it has to do with laws and policy, surfers demand, technology and higher speeds. Just use your imagination.
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Old 05-05-2005, 02:49 PM   #17
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TGPs are like roaches, they are here to stay.
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Old 05-05-2005, 02:51 PM   #18
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and just like roaches they are here to stay because they evolve
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Old 05-05-2005, 05:19 PM   #19
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and just like roaches they are here to stay because they evolve

Roaches evolved? I thought they just adapt.
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Old 05-05-2005, 05:24 PM   #20
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Well if you notice more and more sponsors are either building or buying their own.. Even Lensman has a post about wanting to buy MGP's. So I don't think the TGP concept will be gone anything soon.. I do hope people start moving away from the high skim sites and more twords hard link trades and quality traffic..

Seems to me everyone is bloggin now.. blogs seem to be the new TGP's.
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Well if you notice more and more sponsors are either building or buying their own.. Even Lensman has a post about wanting to buy MGP's. So I don't think the TGP concept will be gone anything soon.. I do hope people start moving away from the high skim sites and more twords hard link trades and quality traffic..

Seems to me everyone is bloggin now.. blogs seem to be the new TGP's.

My game plan as always been merge the best features of all, which I've done for years and will continue to do so. When I started my top list, I added productivity features from TGPs. The one thing I never added is blind traffic, which will be the TGP downfall if they use it.
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My game plan as always been merge the best features of all, which I've done for years and will continue to do so. When I started my top list, I added productivity features from TGPs. The one thing I never added is blind traffic, which will be the TGP downfall if they use it.
Yea I've been slowly changing my main site to no skim I send over half my outgoing traffic via toplist now.. So even though the site is set to 70% it acts like it's 80% or more.

My new sites I plan on building up via the trade scripts then slowly switching to HL trades as well.

BTW I think our trade died out.. how much can you trade a day now?
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The one thing I never added is blind traffic, which will be the TGP downfall if they use it.
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A change is coming but not the one you want. Expect tgp's that only allow 2 minute+ clips soon.
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Probably because of the merge. Together, I send out about 200K uniques a day to all my trades.

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A change is coming but not the one you want. Expect tgp's that only allow 2 minute+ clips soon.


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Old 05-05-2005, 08:12 PM   #28
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Old 05-05-2005, 08:39 PM   #29
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Blind traffic only wastes bandwidth and sponsors have already started kicking them out of programs.


Are you permanently stuck in 1998 or something?
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While I agree with you on some issues, overall - sponsors have never made more money than they are now. My TGP's have never made more money than they are now. If it isn't broke, why fix it?
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It's not going anywhere, surfers want content and tgps provide it. Link lists are here to stay as well since most do significantly better in the serps than tgps. Porn blogs are a fad that will quickly fade.
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TGPs are not going any where. Truth of the matter is, without free porn "pay for porn" would die.
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It's not going anywhere, surfers want content and tgps provide it. Link lists are here to stay as well since most do significantly better in the serps than tgps. Porn blogs are a fad that will quickly fade.

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One odd thing is that many of the people who are opposed to TGP's have no problem with links lists. Yet links lists would be giving away more free porn than TGP's if they had become as popular, since their minimum requirements are still at the top end of what most TGP webmasters display.

Perhaps it will be possible in a few years to crow over the demise of TGP's. But that depends mainly on whether they develop as TGP's or if another name catches on at some point. Either way it won't mean the end of free porn, because it is such an obvious and relatively easy way to attract potential customers.

TGP's didn't create the demand for free porn, they are a response to it and if not TGP's then it will be something else. We may as well get used to the idea.
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Porn blogs are a fad that will quickly fade.
Large numbers of porn blogs will be a short-live phenomenon, but the very few that are genuinely well done will be hugely successful and they will be around for years.

The great thing about blogs is that although the form is easy to copy, the substance isn't. So if you have the creativity and talent to do one that surfers enjoy, you will have something unique. TGP's are more popular than links lists simply because they let the surfers get to the pics and movies with fewer clicks. Porn blogs are even less convenient than links lists, so the concept is useless unless what a surfer sees between arriving at a site and reaching the graphic content is strong enough to be entertaining in its own right.
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Large numbers of porn blogs will be a short-live phenomenon, but the very few that are genuinely well done will be hugely successful and they will be around for years.

The great thing about blogs is that although the form is easy to copy, the substance isn't. So if you have the creativity and talent to do one that surfers enjoy, you will have something unique. TGP's are more popular than links lists simply because they let the surfers get to the pics and movies with fewer clicks. Porn blogs are even less convenient than links lists, so the concept is useless unless what a surfer sees between arriving at a site and reaching the graphic content is strong enough to be entertaining in its own right.
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Large numbers of porn blogs will be a short-live phenomenon, but the very few that are genuinely well done will be hugely successful and they will be around for years.

The great thing about blogs is that although the form is easy to copy, the substance isn't. So if you have the creativity and talent to do one that surfers enjoy, you will have something unique. TGP's are more popular than links lists simply because they let the surfers get to the pics and movies with fewer clicks. Porn blogs are even less convenient than links lists, so the concept is useless unless what a surfer sees between arriving at a site and reaching the graphic content is strong enough to be entertaining in its own right.
Good rebuttal It was better than just saying 'suuure-lol'.
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somebody buy this man a clue please...

As for the topic I expect that TGP's as we know them will deffy change but dissapear...no
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As for the topic I expect that TGP's as we know them will deffy change but dissapear...no
Yeah, somebody buy me a clue. If it was so easy for "paid porn" to make it, why do they pay webmasters to give it away for free? Think about Einstein. People that own paysites are payig other people to "give" it away. Why is that? It's because it's like crack, you always want to get them addicted before you tell them it cost. gimme a break!!!
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Yeah, somebody buy me a clue. If it was so easy for "paid porn" to make it, why do they pay webmasters to give it away for free? Think about Einstein. People that own paysites are payig other people to "give" it away. Why is that? It's because it's like crack, you always want to get them addicted before you tell them it cost. gimme a break!!!
After you buy the clue go back in time and see how things were before the net beeing flooded with tgps....tskk tskk
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