is anything in porn run on microsoft software? - GoFuckYourself.com

Clay · 01-17-2002, 08:20 PM

The recent release of .NET made me wonder this.

Prior to working in porn I was an asp/sql server programmer and it seemed like every company's site was run with NT/2000 and either ASP or coldfusion. But I haven't seen 1 asp site in the adult world, only php or perl.

just an observation. Can m$ just not handle the load -no pun intended :P

Amputate Your Head · 01-17-2002, 08:22 PM

I know of a few guys running ASP.

MikeEP · 01-17-2002, 08:23 PM

I ran asp and drop it like a bad habit for php

Tanker · 01-17-2002, 08:29 PM

I think the entire adult.com network is if I am not mistaken all done in Coldfusion.

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FADE19 · 01-17-2002, 08:29 PM

Clay be thankful you are an asp programmer and a php programmer to boot and this is why...

The industry is going to come to a split here soon...a decision is going to be made to either go the .NET route or UNIX...either way allot of the apps that are out there are going to have to be re-written or built from scratch...now if companies decide to go the MS route, they are going to have to rebuild all their servers from NT4 to AS2000...hence the companies will be spending a but load for licenses etc...now comes the hiring of .NET folks..there are not many out there so they will be wanting top dollar...

Now if a MS environment company decides to go the UNIX route...the apps that where once written in asp will have to be converted to php...this is where you would come in...there are allot of asp programmers out there but folks that know both asp and php are limited...I say this because in the last couple of jobs I have had...I would say I know about 30 top asp programmers...3 of them including myself know both...therefore we too will be a highly sought after commodity

just my .02

Clay · 01-17-2002, 08:33 PM

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Originally posted by FADE19:
Clay be thankful you are an asp programmer and a php programmer to boot and this is why...

*was* asp/sql, forgot most everything, it was a year ago

haven't picked up php because I haven't needed to, but I really think I should. It'd be nice to write my own scripts instead of paying someone else for theirs.

just for fun I went to dice.com and did a search for php and that brought up 60 results (ug!), a search for asp brought over 800. Still not good a few years ago a search for asp would have brought over 8,000. man this is some recession.

FADE19 · 01-17-2002, 08:36 PM

Well I will have to say..that it will never be like it was...you know what I mean the phone ringing off the hook...companies willing to shell out mad money to get a frontpage hack in the door because he/she said they had "SEEN" the web before hehehe...but it will pick up again...it is just going to take a little time is all

TheDoc · 01-17-2002, 09:35 PM

Mass people wont change to MicroShit servers. Most adult companies would have to double if not tripple the server load to handle what one BSD box can. I-bill is on MS and look at all the damn problems, companies like SexTracker, Us, and most others are on some type of UNIX OS with almost zero problems. Unix can handle more load than any MS product and that is a proven fact. Even MS/Hotmail runs UNIX, let's ya know that their own product sux ass.

TheDoc

Phil21 · 01-17-2002, 10:10 PM

Now if a MS environment company decides to go the UNIX route...the apps that where once written in asp will have to be converted to php

er.. not exactly, but I do give credence to your point. PHP is great for a lot of the stuff porn does, but it starts to suffer when it scales. This is not to say a talented PHP programmer can't make site based off PHP scale well, it's just harder and it will never do as well as some things.

Probably the creme of the crop in the Unix world for "extreme" performance stuff, is Apache+Mod_Perl. Think of mod_perl a lot like ASP in that the interpreter is allready loaded. Some hugeass corporate sites run mod_perl. The problem here is that there are *VERY* few decent programmers than can do modperl worth a shit, so it almost always gets looked over either from an expense standpoint, or no one knows about it.

In the corporate world though, on the unix side you'll see a hell of a lot more Solaris on Sun hardware, running iPlanet and some form of java servlets, or whatnot. Don't ask me why, it's beyond stupid for most things, but that's "how it's done".

I for one, would love to see a migration in the corporate sector to PHP/perl/etc. on *bsd or hell, anything that runs apache. It would mean a hell of a lot better job stability for me. Theres not many places needing a linux+apache admin, who can code perl on the side anymore.

2 years ago I could almost name my price though. sigh.

Oh well, my point is I don't really see a lot of corps. dumping ASP for PHP, even if they do move to Unix. It would probably be more along the lines of asinine iPlanet/Jserv crap like so many allready do.

-Phil

cgiGeek · 01-17-2002, 10:43 PM

I use this rule:

-If you own your server:
If you need easy password authentication: Unix/Apache
If you need image protection: Unix
If you are poor: Unix/Apache
(I have done image protection in Windows, but is a pain in the ass)
If you need free email: Windows/IIS 5
If you need huge fast stable databases but no image protection: Windows/IIS 5

-If you do not own your server:
Unix/Apache

When I say unix I do not mean cobalt for some cobalt have an htaccess vulnerability that will left Apache crippled, this will affect the server´s owner probably more then your site though. Sorry cobalt lovers.

OK, you can attack me now.

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FADE19 · 01-17-2002, 10:54 PM

currently WellsFargo and Parts of Verizon are doing the asp-->php/java conversion now...these are pretty large corps...Not saying it is right or wrong...but it looks as if these folks seemed to think it was the way to go...

cgiGeek · 01-17-2002, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Phil21:
The problem here is that there are *VERY* few decent programmers than can do modperl worth a shit, so it almost always gets looked over either from an expense standpoint, or no one knows about it.
-Phil

If you are a clean CGI.pm, OO orientated programmer ,use strict user, then mod_perl should not be any different then regular Perl Programming.

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Clay · 01-17-2002, 10:57 PM

theres was an app out there to convert your coldfusion code over to asp called "The Defroster". I thought that was pretty funny name (and pretty rude too

4Pics · 01-18-2002, 01:01 AM

Maybe that's part of the reason why all the non adult companies can't make any money, their websites run on windows

Direktor · 01-18-2002, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Clay:
theres was an app out there to convert your coldfusion code over to asp called "The Defroster". I thought that was pretty funny name (and pretty rude too

is that real? lol

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01-17-2002, 08:20 PM	#1
Clay Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 735	is anything in porn run on microsoft software? The recent release of .NET made me wonder this. Prior to working in porn I was an asp/sql server programmer and it seemed like every company's site was run with NT/2000 and either ASP or coldfusion. But I haven't seen 1 asp site in the adult world, only php or perl. just an observation. Can m$ just not handle the load -no pun intended :P

01-17-2002, 08:29 PM	#4
Tanker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 9,287	I think the entire adult.com network is if I am not mistaken all done in Coldfusion. ------------------ Tanker [email protected] ICQ 3427575 Hot amateur content for sale! Wild Cheerleader plugin! Lightspeed Cash Parner Program

01-17-2002, 08:22 PM	#2
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	I know of a few guys running ASP.

01-17-2002, 08:23 PM	#3
MikeEP Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 464	I ran asp and drop it like a bad habit for php

01-17-2002, 08:29 PM	#5
FADE19 Snow's Parole Officer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: mud hut next to Bin Laden's Posts: 1,161	Clay be thankful you are an asp programmer and a php programmer to boot and this is why... The industry is going to come to a split here soon...a decision is going to be made to either go the .NET route or UNIX...either way allot of the apps that are out there are going to have to be re-written or built from scratch...now if companies decide to go the MS route, they are going to have to rebuild all their servers from NT4 to AS2000...hence the companies will be spending a but load for licenses etc...now comes the hiring of .NET folks..there are not many out there so they will be wanting top dollar... Now if a MS environment company decides to go the UNIX route...the apps that where once written in asp will have to be converted to php...this is where you would come in...there are allot of asp programmers out there but folks that know both asp and php are limited...I say this because in the last couple of jobs I have had...I would say I know about 30 top asp programmers...3 of them including myself know both...therefore we too will be a highly sought after commodity just my .02

01-17-2002, 08:36 PM	#7
FADE19 Snow's Parole Officer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: mud hut next to Bin Laden's Posts: 1,161	Well I will have to say..that it will never be like it was...you know what I mean the phone ringing off the hook...companies willing to shell out mad money to get a frontpage hack in the door because he/she said they had "SEEN" the web before hehehe...but it will pick up again...it is just going to take a little time is all

01-17-2002, 09:35 PM	#8
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	Mass people wont change to MicroShit servers. Most adult companies would have to double if not tripple the server load to handle what one BSD box can. I-bill is on MS and look at all the damn problems, companies like SexTracker, Us, and most others are on some type of UNIX OS with almost zero problems. Unix can handle more load than any MS product and that is a proven fact. Even MS/Hotmail runs UNIX, let's ya know that their own product sux ass. TheDoc

01-17-2002, 10:10 PM	#9
Phil21 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ICQ: 25285313 Posts: 993	Now if a MS environment company decides to go the UNIX route...the apps that where once written in asp will have to be converted to php er.. not exactly, but I do give credence to your point. PHP is great for a lot of the stuff porn does, but it starts to suffer when it scales. This is not to say a talented PHP programmer can't make site based off PHP scale well, it's just harder and it will never do as well as some things. Probably the creme of the crop in the Unix world for "extreme" performance stuff, is Apache+Mod_Perl. Think of mod_perl a lot like ASP in that the interpreter is allready loaded. Some hugeass corporate sites run mod_perl. The problem here is that there are VERY few decent programmers than can do modperl worth a shit, so it almost always gets looked over either from an expense standpoint, or no one knows about it. In the corporate world though, on the unix side you'll see a hell of a lot more Solaris on Sun hardware, running iPlanet and some form of java servlets, or whatnot. Don't ask me why, it's beyond stupid for most things, but that's "how it's done". I for one, would love to see a migration in the corporate sector to PHP/perl/etc. on *bsd or hell, anything that runs apache. It would mean a hell of a lot better job stability for me. Theres not many places needing a linux+apache admin, who can code perl on the side anymore. 2 years ago I could almost name my price though. sigh. Oh well, my point is I don't really see a lot of corps. dumping ASP for PHP, even if they do move to Unix. It would probably be more along the lines of asinine iPlanet/Jserv crap like so many allready do. -Phil

01-17-2002, 10:43 PM	#10
cgiGeek Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Miami Beach, FL Posts: 203	I use this rule: -If you own your server: If you need easy password authentication: Unix/Apache If you need image protection: Unix If you are poor: Unix/Apache (I have done image protection in Windows, but is a pain in the ass) If you need free email: Windows/IIS 5 If you need huge fast stable databases but no image protection: Windows/IIS 5 -If you do not own your server: Unix/Apache When I say unix I do not mean cobalt for some cobalt have an htaccess vulnerability that will left Apache crippled, this will affect the server´s owner probably more then your site though. Sorry cobalt lovers. OK, you can attack me now. ------------------ Perl Hacker gone bad.

01-17-2002, 10:54 PM	#11
FADE19 Snow's Parole Officer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: mud hut next to Bin Laden's Posts: 1,161	currently WellsFargo and Parts of Verizon are doing the asp-->php/java conversion now...these are pretty large corps...Not saying it is right or wrong...but it looks as if these folks seemed to think it was the way to go...

01-17-2002, 10:57 PM	#13
Clay Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 735	theres was an app out there to convert your coldfusion code over to asp called "The Defroster". I thought that was pretty funny name (and pretty rude too

01-18-2002, 01:01 AM	#14
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	Maybe that's part of the reason why all the non adult companies can't make any money, their websites run on windows