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Old 05-03-2005, 03:43 PM   #1
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It's okay to tourture people because I have a learning disorder.

This is rich...

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FORT HOOD, Texas - Defense lawyers sought leniency for Pfc. Lynndie England at a hearing Tuesday to determine her punishment in the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal, with a psychologist testifying that the reservist was oxygen-deprived at birth, speech impaired and had trouble learning to read.

West Virginia school psychologist Dr. Thomas Denne ? the first defense witness ? said England's learning disabilities were identified when she was a kindergartner ? and though she made progress in school, she continued needing special help.

"I knew I was going to know Lynndie England for the rest of my life," West Virginia school psychologist Dr. Thomas Denne said.

A military jury of five men and one woman was seated earlier Tuesday to make a sentencing recommendation for England, 22, who pleaded guilty Monday to seven counts of mistreating prisoners.

England accepted responsibility for the smiling, thumbs-up poses she struck for photographs taken at Abu Ghraib that made her the face of the prisoner abuse scandal.

The charges carry up to 11 years in prison. Prosecutors and the defense reached an agreement that caps the sentence at a lesser punishment; the length was not released. She will get the lesser of the military jury's sentence or the term agreed on in the plea bargain.

Prosecutor Capt. Chris Graveline told jurors in opening statements that England and a half-dozen other soldiers in the 372nd Military Police Company took great pleasure in humiliating the prisoners. The prosecution rested its sentencing case without calling any witnesses.

Graveline said England and Pvt. Charles Graner Jr. ? the abuse ringleader and the father of England's child ? knew it was wrong to mistreat the detainees and take the photos, "but they did it anyway for their own amusement." Graner is scheduled to testify for the defense.

In one of the photos, England held a leash looped around the neck of a hooded, naked prisoner. Another showed her next to nude prisoners stacked in a pyramid, while a third depicted England pointing at a prisoner's genitals as a cigarette dangled from her lips.

When asked by judge Col. James Pohl whether England knew right from wrong, Denne said she had a compliant personality and tended to listen to authority figures.

On Monday, England told Pohl that she initially resisted taking part in the abuse at the Baghdad prison, but that she succumbed to peer pressure.

"I had a choice, but I chose to do what my friends wanted me to," she said.

Graner was convicted in January on abuse charges and is serving a 10-year prison sentence. Four other Abu Ghraib guards and two low-level military intelligence officers have entered guilty pleas in connection with the scandal, with sentences ranging from no time to 8 1/2 years. Spc. Sabrina Harman, a former Abu Ghraib guard, is scheduled to go to trial at Fort Hood next week
Don't get me wrong, I think the girl is a Patsy but how the fuck does "trouble learning to read" excuse you from ANY crime?
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Old 05-03-2005, 03:43 PM   #2
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Old 05-03-2005, 03:46 PM   #3
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and you people bitch about torturing people that torture in much more severity. those people cut heads off and burn bodies and hang the bodies from bridges... wtf...
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Old 05-03-2005, 03:50 PM   #4
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and you people bitch about torturing people that torture in much more severity. those people cut heads off and burn bodies and hang the bodies from bridges... wtf...


Never saw this nick .. a NEW clueless ? or a fake nick ....
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Old 05-03-2005, 03:51 PM   #5
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and you people bitch about torturing people that torture in much more severity. those people cut heads off and burn bodies and hang the bodies from bridges... wtf...
maybe they should have learned to read too
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Old 05-03-2005, 03:54 PM   #6
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and you people bitch about torturing people that torture in much more severity. those people cut heads off and burn bodies and hang the bodies from bridges... wtf...
A number of detainees have died as a result of their US interrogators/guards...
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Old 05-03-2005, 03:57 PM   #7
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Old 05-03-2005, 04:02 PM   #8
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A number of detainees have died as a result of their US interrogators/guards...

ok.. and they cut off a few Americans heads.... Im not saying it the right thing to do... But I never hear anyone say when they cut off an Americans head holy shit what the fuck... Its like no one cares if they do it to us, only if we do it to them. And I understand the US military should be trying to set an example, like I said before I dont think its the right thing to do, I think she should be punished, but so should the insurgents that do much worse...
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Here is an example of what they do http://www.ljworld.com/section/iraq_...l/story/166008

There is actually a video of this, Im was unable to find it again though.

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But I never hear anyone say when they cut off an Americans head holy shit what the fuck... .
use the search ....
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Old 05-03-2005, 04:31 PM   #11
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Never saw this nick .. a NEW clueless ? or a fake nick ....
Another one with the same sig as funforone, what a coincidence.
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Old 05-03-2005, 05:38 PM   #12
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ok.. and they cut off a few Americans heads.... Im not saying it the right thing to do... But I never hear anyone say when they cut off an Americans head holy shit what the fuck... Its like no one cares if they do it to us, only if we do it to them. And I understand the US military should be trying to set an example, like I said before I dont think its the right thing to do, I think she should be punished, but so should the insurgents that do much worse...
There are NO insurgents, these are people that are fighting for the freedom of their country, I don't aprove of their methods, but I'm not quite sure that I wouldn't do the same if some foreigners invade my country,and kill and maim thousands of innocent people.
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its ok to tourture people if you look like a retarded man too

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