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so this guy told me that his company had no intrest in making another 1-2k a year

05-01-2005, 07:04 AM

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me: on your guys warningpages you are linking to yahoo. they dont pay you at all. switch that link to a warningpages.com link and get paid for that traffic.

him: we have watched that traffic before, at best at the rate you are offering its going to make us 1-2k a year. thats not worth changing the link.

me: we will have our designers redo your page, package it up and send it to you 100% done if need be no probs what so ever. its an extra 1-2k a year you are currently not gettign paid for. who knows, it might even do better then that.

him: all that for 2000 a year? honestly its not worth it, ill get back to you

me: ok.

is it just me, or is that a classic example of $ left on the table? they must make so much money that an extra 2k a year dont mean a thing. ill never get to that point.

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05-01-2005, 07:06 AM

Maybe he just doesnt like you did you ever think that?
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05-01-2005, 07:09 AM

Originally posted by ry0t

Maybe he just doesnt like you did you ever think that?

thought never crossed my mind honestly.

ofcourse, if youve got a strong product, and i know its going to make me money, ill go around someone i dont like to get to someone i can atleast get along with to make that money.

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05-01-2005, 07:10 AM

maybe he's going to knock off the idea himself?

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05-01-2005, 07:11 AM

now that's silly =)

especially seeing that its not like there's any work or upkeep involved. just changing a URL to make an extra $2k a year?

if thats not "worth" it i don't know what is. only way i can see his point is if he planned on redirecting the traffic to his own mainstream ventures.

then, it probably wouldn't be worth it.

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05-01-2005, 07:14 AM

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now that's silly =)

especially seeing that its not like there's any work or upkeep involved. just changing a URL to make an extra $2k a year?

if thats not "worth" it i don't know what is. only way i can see his point is if he planned on redirecting the traffic to his own mainstream ventures.

then, it probably wouldn't be worth it.

id agree with you 100% if he had told me that was the plan. thats not the case, or atleast not what i was lead to belive.

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05-01-2005, 07:17 AM

He knows he cannot control the link and does not want to keep an eye on you guys.
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05-01-2005, 07:21 AM

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He knows he cannot control the link and does not want to keep an eye on you guys.

Exactly. He's knows he can trust yahoo.
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05-01-2005, 07:22 AM

I'm curious. Where are you sending the traffic? That detail of the program seems to be lacking from your affiliate site. If it's legit..great! If it's sending the customer to an active x or other adware/spyware loader...then no thanks.
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05-01-2005, 07:26 AM

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Exactly. He's knows he can trust yahoo.

I doubt he would think that they would take his traffic and put it through spamware hell.

And if so, its "Exit" Traffic.
People who never have or will have any intention of visiting your site and joining.

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05-01-2005, 07:27 AM

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id agree with you 100% if he had told me that was the plan. thats not the case, or atleast not what i was lead to belive.

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05-01-2005, 07:29 AM

Originally posted by Alex

I doubt he would think that they would take his traffic and put it through spamware hell.

And if so, its "Exit" Traffic.
People who never have or will have any intention of visiting your site and joining.

But it still associates your site ... if the surfer got fucked around on your site once you think he'll ever be back?
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05-01-2005, 07:30 AM

some people don't care if they lose a few k even if they just change 1 thing. Personally i like to squeeze out every penny
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05-01-2005, 07:31 AM

Originally posted by brand0n

ofcourse not. 0 spyware, installs, anything. all to 100% kid friendly sites. heres some examples of our links in use
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Porndollar
http://extremeblow.com/

So they hit the exit link because they ended up on a porn site and don't agree to the terms. And the owner of the site puts an exit link there so they can safelt leave the site in good faith. And you want the link going back to a porn site that the surfer wanted to leave in the first place?

This is why some people won't do what your asking them to do.
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05-01-2005, 07:33 AM

Originally posted by JFPdude

So they hit the exit link because they ended up on a porn site and don't agree to the terms. And the owner of the site puts an exit link there so they can safelt leave the site in good faith. And you want the link going back to a porn site that the surfer wanted to leave in the first place?

This is why some people won't do what your asking them to do.

I think you're confused.

Those are examples of porn sites currently using warningpages.com. Click the exit link and you'll see what your surfers are brought to.

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05-01-2005, 07:33 AM

Originally posted by JFPdude

So they hit the exit link because they ended up on a porn site and don't agree to the terms. And the owner of the site puts an exit link there so they can safelt leave the site in good faith. And you want the link going back to a porn site that the surfer wanted to leave in the first place?

This is why some people won't do what your asking them to do.

no. not at all. did you check out those examples?

like i said, 100% kid friendly sites.

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05-01-2005, 07:34 AM

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thought never crossed my mind honestly.

ofcourse, if youve got a strong product, and i know its going to make me money, ill go around someone i dont like to get to someone i can atleast get along with to make that money.

Yes that's right because even if you don't like someone you can still deal with it because you need to do what's best for your business and to make the most money possible. It's all about business.
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05-01-2005, 07:36 AM

We have made over $9 with warning pages since it launched. Free money google wasn't paying me, would have a lot more i'm sure if I had a easy to click exit link I really hide mine.

Great idea and its money you weren't going to get before.

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05-01-2005, 07:40 AM

Also another thought.
There are people who are maing $10 a month as example above.

I think what you did brandon was give him an even better idea
If he could make $1.5k at $0.01 per unique Thats 150k visits a year.
Im sure he could make more than $1.5k with that much traffic.
Wait a month, watch if he cahnges his exit codes, but what to what.

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05-01-2005, 07:45 AM

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no. not at all. did you check out those examples?

like i said, 100% kid friendly sites.

I'm sorry I misunderstood the examples at first I thought you were sending people there.

However here's my take on it and maybe others feel the same way. Through the years we have seen a lot of things happen that would make us leary of sites like this ... let me explain a few.

Porngraph.com ... how many got fucked here?

foxcounter.com ... remember those redirects?

sexcounter.com ... spyware anybody?

When you start sending to many hits to a ppc company and those hits don't pan out they do crazy things to make the hits profitable. Why do you think so many freehosts go out of business?

So we go ahead and change all our links now and 2 - 3 months from now the market is oversaturated and every cheater in the world is scamming all these links and raping the company for money. In turn that company will end up doing something drastic to both get back at the cheaters and make the money back.

I am in no way implying this will happen here but for many including myself this is why we are not running out changing links and sending hits. At least we know it's safe to turn the traffic that would be nothing to us anyways back to google and yahoo and give the surfers a good surfing expierience and hope they remember our site didn't jerk them around so they return and buy someday.

Long winded answer I know but thats my feelings and I know others feel the same way.
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05-01-2005, 07:46 AM

Originally posted by JFPdude

So they hit the exit link because they ended up on a porn site and don't agree to the terms. And the owner of the site puts an exit link there so they can safelt leave the site in good faith. And you want the link going back to a porn site that the surfer wanted to leave in the first place?

This is why some people won't do what your asking them to do.

Uhh try looking again God only knows what you are talking about

example url for our se http://www.nightchat.com

They all are exactly or VERY close to exactly the same as that

Anyone NOT using us needs to be, its just silly to waste money. I've had similar conversations as the one at the top of the thread, and it just boggles me. I wouldnt care if it only made a quater a day, thats almost 100bucks a year that I didn't have before. I think the guy in that convo (like the ones I've talked to) just want to keep up the image like they dont need the money. But SMART programs, such as Epic, ARS, Traffic Cash , and MANY others know that found money is found money, no matter how big or small.

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05-01-2005, 07:49 AM

Originally posted by JFPdude

I'm sorry I misunderstood the examples at first I thought you were sending people there.

However here's my take on it and maybe others feel the same way. Through the years we have seen a lot of things happen that would make us leary of sites like this ... let me explain a few.

Porngraph.com ... how many got fucked here?

foxcounter.com ... remember those redirects?

sexcounter.com ... spyware anybody?

When you start sending to many hits to a ppc company and those hits don't pan out they do crazy things to make the hits profitable. Why do you think so many freehosts go out of business?

So we go ahead and change all our links now and 2 - 3 months from now the market is oversaturated and every cheater in the world is scamming all these links and raping the company for money. In turn that company will end up doing something drastic to both get back at the cheaters and make the money back.

I am in no way implying this will happen here but for many including myself this is why we are not running out changing links and sending hits. At least we know it's safe to turn the traffic that would be nothing to us anyways back to google and yahoo and give the surfers a good surfing expierience and hope they remember our site didn't jerk them around so they return and buy someday.

Long winded answer I know but thats my feelings and I know others feel the same way.

Rick Latona is at the top of the food chain on warningpages.com we have a vast network of clicks going thru it before we released it to the public, our fraud system is tighter than you can imagine, we know who has traffic and whos trying to beat us out of a few bucks. I can assure you and anyone else that there is no danger of us trying to screw affiliates by putting adware etc on these pages. For a numerous ammount of reasons, ethics for one. Not to mention we would lose thousands a day because our ppc feeds would drop us like a sac of bricks if they suspected something of that nature.

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05-01-2005, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by Alex

Also another thought.
There are people who are maing $10 a month as example above.

I think what you did brandon was give him an even better idea
If he could make $1.5k at $0.01 per unique Thats 150k visits a year.
Im sure he could make more than $1.5k with that much traffic.
Wait a month, watch if he cahnges his exit codes, but what to what.

Hard to make that much off under age users unless you are sending to ppc, and in order to get the prices we will pay out, you have to have a large network of domains / searches. Which 150k /year wont do. We offer ease, garunteed money, and no leg work. Just change the links and collect the checks

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05-01-2005, 07:53 AM

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Rick Latona is at the top of the food chain on warningpages.com ...
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This is new information to me ... this makes my views completely different than what I posted above.
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05-01-2005, 07:55 AM

Originally posted by JFPdude

This is new information to me ... this makes my views completely different than what I posted above.

i see you are in NC, me and AC are heading to charlotte sometime next week. you near there? i think we are going to get up with a few webmasters in that area while we are there to talk shop and shoot some shit.

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05-01-2005, 07:56 AM

I'm 45 minutes from charlotte and I will be in charlotte at least once this week that I know of ... maybe more depending on what goes on.
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05-01-2005, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by JFPdude

I'm 45 minutes from charlotte and I will be in charlotte at least once this week that I know of ... maybe more depending on what goes on.

Lets get together

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05-01-2005, 10:19 PM

Maybe he doesnt want people to know how much traffic he is NOT getting

1 cent a click really isnt all that great

I was wondering where you sent that traffic to you guys pay 1 cent a click to ?

supopsivly it is all under 18 traffic
kinda worthless?

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05-01-2005, 10:22 PM

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Maybe he doesnt want people to know how much traffic he is NOT getting

1 cent a click really isnt all that great

I was wondering where you sent that traffic to you guys pay 1 cent a click to ?

supopsivly it is all under 18 traffic
kinda worthless?

we send it to a page that will look pretty much exact like www.nightchat.com

It might not seem like a lot but there are a GOOD ammount of people sending us a large ammount of traffic that before hand was getting pissed away on google. We make our money in HOPES that the surfers will search around and click our sponsored links on the se.

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05-01-2005, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by slapass

He knows he cannot control the link and does not want to keep an eye on you guys.

EXACTLY

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05-01-2005, 10:39 PM

it's really not that much, $100/month for some is hardly worth the trouble...

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05-01-2005, 11:11 PM

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EXACTLY

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Same applys for any affiliate program that you put links up for.

This has no relivancy, most find warningpages reputable as It is Rick Latonas newest project

"it's really not that much, $100/month for some is hardly worth the trouble..."

So If someone gave you 1k (years worth) to switch one link on your site (take about 2mins TOPS) you would decline? lol come on man be smarter than that

BIG programs use us, and it wouldnt matter if they made 40 or 4thousand a month they know its found money, money they didnt have before, and money they will have from now on

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05-01-2005, 11:14 PM

Honestly, it could just be that its too much hassle to change. Maybe there are thousands of exit links on free sites that would just take too much time to go back and find all of them. They just guesstimated that they would make 1-2k a year on the exit link based on overall traffic stats and decided its not worth it.
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05-01-2005, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by ry0t

Maybe he just doesnt like you did you ever think that?

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05-01-2005, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by A C

Same applys for any affiliate program that you put links up for.

This has no relivancy, most find warningpages reputable as It is Rick Latonas newest project

"it's really not that much, $100/month for some is hardly worth the trouble..."

So If someone gave you 1k (years worth) to switch one link on your site (take about 2mins TOPS) you would decline? lol come on man be smarter than that

BIG programs use us, and it wouldnt matter if they made 40 or 4thousand a month they know its found money, money they didnt have before, and money they will have from now on

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i can see why i woudnt switch for 100 bux a month
I could throw up my own se page like you guys offer and make more
but if you paid 1,000 upfront then maybe someone would interested

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05-01-2005, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by brand0n

thought never crossed my mind honestly.

ofcourse, if youve got a strong product, and i know its going to make me money, ill go around someone i dont like to get to someone i can atleast get along with to make that money.

maybe your just too pushy

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05-01-2005, 11:40 PM

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maybe your just too pushy

i know brandon so he would be different, but usually if a sales rep is bugging me about something on icq no matter what it is i usually blow them off.

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05-01-2005, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by A C

Same applys for any affiliate program that you put links up for.

This has no relivancy, most find warningpages reputable as It is Rick Latonas newest project

"it's really not that much, $100/month for some is hardly worth the trouble..."

So If someone gave you 1k (years worth) to switch one link on your site (take about 2mins TOPS) you would decline? lol come on man be smarter than that

BIG programs use us, and it wouldnt matter if they made 40 or 4thousand a month they know its found money, money they didnt have before, and money they will have from now on

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AC I have no problem with your program and I love Rick. You just have to understand some of the larger site owners simply don't want to lose control of their traffic, hence the reason they send to google, yahoo whatever

Sure found money is great but these guys are trusting you not to take their traffic and send it to a spyware/adaware/dialer page (not saying you would do that obviously but that is what people think with PPC).

If you're serious about getting some of these site owners on board, pull out your wallet and buy some of the warning pages links

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05-02-2005, 12:49 AM

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Hard to make that much off under age users unless you are sending to ppc, and in order to get the prices we will pay out, you have to have a large network of domains / searches. Which 150k /year wont do. We offer ease, garunteed money, and no leg work. Just change the links and collect the checks

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Ive said it once, ill say it again. The internet can do many things. We can use geo-ip to locate his city and his browser language.

But i dont think we have invented anything that tests thier age as well. It doesnt have to be under 18 traffic. I think lensman posted a soultion that could possibley make more money in another thread,

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05-02-2005, 01:02 AM

some ppl dont care I had the same conversation over 404 traffic once..

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05-02-2005, 01:26 AM

that guy/company sound like a bunch of fools

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05-02-2005, 01:34 AM

Yeah... I wanna make 1-2k more per year. Thats for sure. Every money counts!

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05-02-2005, 01:49 AM

I think he just thinks you're full of shit and its not worth his time to figure out if you're full of shit...he fails to actually go as far as to think about the actual business it provides....

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05-02-2005, 01:55 AM

I don't really see the point of warningpages.com

I mean, the redirected traffic just ends up landing on some PPC page, right? Why doesn't the site owner go directly to the PPC himself and cut out the middle man? It'd make sense if you guys ran your own PPC, but it doesn't look like that's the case.

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05-02-2005, 03:35 AM

Originally posted by chodadog

I don't really see the point of warningpages.com

I mean, the redirected traffic just ends up landing on some PPC page, right? Why doesn't the site owner go directly to the PPC himself and cut out the middle man? It'd make sense if you guys ran your own PPC, but it doesn't look like that's the case.

Rick has lots of type in traffic and he probably gets a better deal at overture then you would.
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05-02-2005, 07:26 AM

Originally posted by slapass

Rick has lots of type in traffic and he probably gets a better deal at overture then you would.

exactly, you make more with us then you would without

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Do you have a "Exit here - if under 18" link on your warningpage? Chances are you are linking to yahoo/google/disney etc. Those days are over, signup at www.warningpages.com to get PAID for this traffic that has been wasted by so many for years! icq#777970
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05-02-2005, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by slapass

Rick has lots of type in traffic and he probably gets a better deal at overture then you would.

Good point. And i guess the extra traffic from the warningpages.com program would just increase how much he could demand from them and could lead to even higher payouts for affiliates and himself. That is actually a pretty good idea. I stand corrected.

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05-02-2005, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by chodadog

Good point. And i guess the extra traffic from the warningpages.com program would just increase how much he could demand from them and could lead to even higher payouts for affiliates and himself. That is actually a pretty good idea. I stand corrected.

right on the button now go switch your links

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05-02-2005, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by woj

it's really not that much, $100/month for some is hardly worth the trouble...

the trouble of changing a link ? wake up please.

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