True.
However I think the middle class (as we know it today) is necessary for the rich to continue being rich.

If it weren't for middle class Americans there wouldn't be anybody to buy Microsoft Windows or new cars or whatever else the moguls need to sell in order to make their millions.

This is what led to the great depression. There was a massive manufacturing surplus, but nobody could afford to buy what was being manufactured.
The industrialists could have done one of two things, raise the wages of their workers so they could afford to buy what they were producing, or drop prices so that the average person could afford to buy the products.
They did neither, and the economy went down the tubes.

wtf are you babbling about now CDLisp!

taxes!?!??!!?!??! since when do YOU pay taxes!?

you know very well that all natives dont pay shit in taxes!

You were using that piece to say, in essence, that life was better for everyone back then, and I have many reasons to disagree with that.

In Russia and China everyone was middle class, they were socialist countries.

In certain ways life probably was better back then. In certain ways being key.

It is the writer's point, I was simply putting it out there and basically putting my own agreement on the basic premise. When you look at that list of taxes that did not exist back then I find that it really is rather remarkable when comparing the two times in that light. That's all.


And you must be joking about China & Russia. In those countries everyone actually WAS either very poor or extremely rich, not that this is another point worth quibbling over. If your history books show it as different, by all means feel free to come back and produce all sorts of proof to support your opinion.

You are more than free to do so (which is more than you would enjoy had you lived in either of those other countries I'm sure)

Did you know that Saudi Arabia is actually the ones running U.S.A?

It would appear that, at least since the Bush 2 junta, that the middle class lifestyle has been financed almost wholey on credit.

http://www.hhole.com/surpvsdefi.gif

That's some scary shit right there. Consumers, in the last year, have spent 322 billion more than they've earned.

Yikes! :Oh crap

That usually happens when unemployment is high. People live off of credit.
Granted the average american ALWAYS spends more than he makes, which is definitely not sustainable long term.

That asterisk says something about residential investment. Could the home refinancing boom of the last few years be skewing those numbers?

Wow, that's some interesting information, what's the source on that? No wonder they made it next to impossible for the average American to declare bankruptcy. Those banks who donated tons to the GOP are going to really get their money's worth.

wow people are stupid.

Not to mention the pharmaceutical companies who just got a big shield from class action suits.

Now they can kill off the masses AND keep all the profits from it as well :thumbsup


Not to mention if we want to buy a drug that causes cancer we have to pay more for it than the Canadians.

Crap, I grabbed it without the citation. Let me see if I can dig it up.

Edit: Here it is.

You think the US is the only country in the world that created new taxes?

Get a clue...

No doubt. The funniest in my eyes are the asbestos lawsuits Bush is trying to get rid of, he actually used that in a speech trying to make it sound like something positive he's doing. lol, I thought the courts were there to protect people against things like companies harming them with asbestos, but I guess I was wrong. Amazing coincidence that Halliburton is facing a billion dollars in asbestos suits, those guys always seem to be in the right place at the right time.

thanks.


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Try reading a thread once in a while. The article writer was speaking about America, bonehead. He mentions nothing about the USA being the only country to have new taxes.


I then mentioned that Canada is similar. Not the same, but similar.. and only in certain ways.


What is it with some of you retards that can't understand English?

Some people like to talk just to hear themselves speak. :winkwink:

He caught me on a bad mood moment.

I'm okay now. :D