I don't think AlienQ is a moron. But if I didn't think he wasn't a moron, this thread might make me consider whether or not he might be a moron.

I have to agree
They really didnt Brand flash cash
they branded there selfs


Ask me to name one flash cash site
or ask me how flash cash pays ?

I have nof uckin clue all I know is some pink people rep em :)

Yes, yes they are -- but we cannot include personal celebrity in this discussion, because then branding ceases to be a repeatable science, with methods and measurements.

You can easily add Linda Lovelace, Traci Lords and John Holmes to this list -- or even Kato Kaelin, for that matter. The factors that make one person famous, that lift them from obscurity into the public attention, are circumstantial, extremely subjective, amazing to observe -- but of little instructive value to Marketing Science.


Are they icons? Asbsolutely.

Would their names top a list of porn star names taken from a man-on-the-street poll? No doubt.

Are we grateful to them? Without question.

But do their achievements and examples influence YOUR marketing plan?


They made themselves mainstream. Certainly their mutability as "stars" in other mediums (especially in the case of Ron and Traci) helps by setting a precedent for the happy inclusion of a hardcore PAST within our contemporary definition of Celebrity -- case in point: Paris Hilton.

But it's not as if crossover-pornstars are helping to popularize something that isn't already popular.

That is a great irony: Porn is everywhere, consumed by most -- and, therefore, statistically mainstream. But, until we as Marketers of Adult are free to pursue our (adult) customers wherever they are, and by way of every medium that serves the purpose, without moral condemnation and the rigors of a conditional legality, we ARE NOT mainstream.




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Branding does work, but slowly. You won't see results overnight, but if you make sure that you prominently display the name of your TGP/MGP, you'll eventually start seeing search engine results with the title in the name.

Great examples

i love branding. it's worth LOADS.

So Coca Cola, Pepsi, Ford and hudreds of other companies are all doing it wrong?

After you have the product right you get the branding, unless you are selling pop music to 12 year olds, then it's all about branding.

Why do you think I use my name on everything? To a lot it's meaningless, but to the rest even the fact I stick my name to my product says something. To the millions who have jerked off to my content it means a lot.

Last night I was on the phone to a guy looking for videos, he asked if I had experience doing videos. I told him I ran a company caller Astral Blue in the UK a few years ago. He was satisfied. Branding after ten years stillworks with those that know you.

Wow, I'm glad to see another thread about this... it's highly important! Once the name is out, you'll continue to get customers and/or potential investors

I was gonna reply to this with an image (Coca Cola), but i think Dave covered pretty much everything!! :winkwink:

And I'd like ya to keep on guessing.

Gonna read the rest of this.

hey man, have a coke and a smile.

:1orglaugh

Online porn brands:

BangBus is a brand. Overture shows 291,037 searches for the term bang bus last month. Why would people search for this if it wasn't for branding?

Al4a is a brand. Overture shows 332,975 searches for the term al4a last month. Why would people search for this if it wasn't for branding?

MilfHunter is a brand. Overtue shows 394,253 searches for the term milf hunter last month. Why would people search for this if it wasn't for branding?

BlacksonBlondes is a brand. Overture shows 124,769 searches for the term blacks on blondes last month. Why would people search for this if it wasn't for branding?

Good branding can take a term that means nothing, like al4a, and give it meaning in the prospects mind. For example, in this case al4a means free porn to hundreds of thousands of surfers. That's the power of branding and that's why it is important in business.

WIth those numbers there I am sure a large portion of those are webmaster's utilizing the term in there pages.

Again it's text configuration.

IE BangBUs, Bang Bus etc.
Again thats not branding thats taking a name and using it to drive traffic.
Would it be so good for a brand to stifle the progress of a brand name by shutting down sites that use the term?
The Hysteria factor play's into branding.

Absolutely not. These numbers represent searches for these terms, not webmasters using the term in their pages. These numbers represent surfers typing the term into the search box. This represents a concept in the surfer's mind, which he is looking for on the web. The term al4a has already been branded in the surfer's mind in this case, he's just trying to find it.

It should also be pointed out that these numbers don't included searches on Google and non overture search engines, and they don't include browser typeins. If you add those the numbers would probably quadruple easily.

Branding is a very powerful tool that will open many doors for you.

Google Page results:

BangBus: 871,000
Bang Bus: 1,670,000

AL4A: 175,000

MilfHunter: 603,000
Milf Hunter: 1,450,000

BacksOnBlonds: 224,000
Backs On Blonds: 1,580,000


Page results.

By far and large Al4a is probably the best example of a good brand name.
Its far less confusing in being able to determine the Brand name for SE's over a term.

The interesting thing is this.
I guess AL4A had a huge amounts of quaries but the least page results!!!!

Trippy.