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XPays 05-01-2005 03:41 PM
100 sex offenders

Quote:
Originally Posted by galleryseek
er yeah.. he should take up a new illegal hobby rather than stay sober.
it was a joke and i read his post as insincere. also, weed is legal in many senses now and is non-addictive.

Vanilla DeVille 05-01-2005 03:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by galleryseek
yeah where the fuck is he? RESPOND.
Good Question... Rinaldo, where are you???

XPays 05-01-2005 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanilla DeVille
Good Question... Rinaldo, where are you???
he's at the pub having a guiness.......

swedguy 05-01-2005 04:12 PM
Alcohol brings out the worst in people. Not everybody, but too many :(

XPays 05-01-2005 04:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by swedguy
Alcohol brings out the worst in people. Not everybody, but too many :(
especially if they already lack respect for other people's personal space. blaming liquor is a cop-out.

Head 05-01-2005 04:25 PM
Good job!

Nader 05-01-2005 10:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewie
Rinaldo,

It took guts to come here and say all of that... I appreciate your apology, and do not wish to rehash old drama anymore than you do. However, my issue was never with the rude comment you made to Vanilla in the contest thread, it was just the last straw. This is GFY, and she has had worse things said to her, as we all have - My problem, besides what happened in Phoenix (which we let go and did not publicize), was that you had the balls to come on the board afterwards and start slamming Vanilla. Then, after we called you out for it, you called us liars and denied it all, saying we were making it up for publicity.

You say you are going to quit drinking to curb your behavior. That's great, and I wish you the best with it. Lots of us have had too much to drink before and done something stupid, and I don't think every drunken episode is a "hanging offence". Plus, we are in the adult biz, and Vanilla does dress sexy and flirt with friends at shows. I am not a jealous guy, and I don't hang on or bully people who hang out and flirt along with Vanilla, as long as they are respectful of her limits. However, you weren't just flirting and took it too far... You walked up to Vanilla two separate times, saying nothing and forcibly grabbing her, pulling at her clothes and body, trying to lick and kiss her. Even after she told you to stop both times, you did it again, and this time I saw it. Since all of this happened, we have had numerous girls contact us with similar stories, where you have been both verbally and physically abusive to them and other women. Then after all of this, you call us liars, trying to destroy our credibility.

As far as I am concerned, you have apologized for the drama on the board, but you have yet to even admit that you did anything wrong to us, and others, beyond a few rude words. I am not going to threaten you, or try to mess with you or your life. We've stayed out of almost all of the related threads, and we never posted about it outside of GFY. I'm tired of the whole affair and I am done with the board drama. However, I will never associate or do any business with you, as you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass. Finally, if you ever lay a finger on my wife or anyone else I know, you and I will have a major problem which will not be ended so easily.

Stew my friend you are so so...wait such a understanding man. I mean every time i see you and Van i ask you how do you do it.

And here you showed us all that your the man that you are :thumbsup

I'm not 100% sure what exactly happen but all i know is that Stew, Van are the coolest couple that i have met not only in this biz but one of the best couple ever.

I hope all this gets worked out since Rinaldo came out and apologized to everyone.

I hope once again all works out :)

Sincerly,

Nader Fasheh

sonofsam 05-02-2005 05:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NichePay_Nader
Stew my friend you are so so...wait such a understanding man. I mean every time i see you and Van i ask you how do you do it.

And here you showed us all that your the man that you are :thumbsup

I'm not 100% sure what exactly happen but all i know is that Stew, Van are the coolest couple that i have met not only in this biz but one of the best couple ever.

I hope all this gets worked out since Rinaldo came out and apologized to everyone.

I hope once again all works out :)

Sincerly,

Nader Fasheh

thats what i thought at first too when rinaldo made his post... then after stewie and vanilla posted (and i should add that i've heard nothing but great things about you guys from your friends that speak very highly of you) they pointed out that rinaldo didn't even apologize for the main things he did wrong.... and once the thread turned he took off and didn't even address the main problems... thats not really apologizing in my opinion :2 cents:

ytcracker 05-02-2005 06:06 AM
stewie from what ive read you must be a man of incredible restraint

i applaud you

Barefootsies 05-02-2005 07:18 AM
Rinaldo

I have no idea who you are other than some of the random GFY drama threads, but you've got some big hairy brass balls to hang your shit out there like that. Bravo mate.

Takes a big man to admit he's gotta problem and address it, much less take that next step to apologize, even publicly on a community/industry board.

Keep rawkin brotha, and best wishes to you are yours.

:thumbsup

Rinaldo 05-02-2005 08:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofsam
my 2 cents...... it would really show some balls if you replied now and address the new issues they brought up which you didn't address in your initial post... but seems like you took off once the thread turned....

I have nothing to say I've already apologized to Stewie and Vanilla (not this thread btw)

As for all you high horsemen... thanks you really make life interesting. I have never fucked anyone over business wise and I do not condone the behavior which is mentioned in previous threads. I haven't had a drink in 2 weeks nor will I.

tungsten 05-02-2005 08:28 AM
oh boy.. :(

Mike Dutch 05-02-2005 09:03 AM
I totally missed this.

I have know Rinaldo and he has always be kind to me.. actions explained in this thread are not excepted, and I think he got the message........

Reading this all I hope he will recover and get his act together and comes out good at the end.

Cory W 05-02-2005 10:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rinaldo
I have nothing to say I've already apologized to Stewie and Vanilla (not this thread btw)

As for all you high horsemen... thanks you really make life interesting. I have never fucked anyone over business wise and I do not condone the behavior which is mentioned in previous threads. I haven't had a drink in 2 weeks nor will I.
I would be careful who you refer to as a "high horseman." My cell phone alone probably has more viable contacts than your icq does child.

-You got drunk, made a mistake (happens).
-You slandered her (idiot move).
-You called them liars (again).

No one has called you out for being drunk. And no one cares if you drink or not. No one cares about your business deals or self-hype.

Conventions are full of mistakes. But when you take a mistake that you made and further attempt to jeopardize someone's name / business credibility, you are out of line. Had you not done that, I likely would have took up for you if Stewie and Vanilla, Allie or whoever gave you grief. But you had to take it further.

Keep it up. You reap what you sow.

Rinaldo 05-02-2005 10:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WEG Cory
I would be careful who you refer to as a "high horseman." My cell phone alone probably has more viable contacts than your icq does child.

-You got drunk, made a mistake (happens).
-You slandered her (idiot move).
-You called them liars (again).

No one has called you out for being drunk. And no one cares if you drink or not. No one cares about your business deals or self-hype.

Conventions are full of mistakes. But when you take a mistake that you made and further attempt to jeopardize someone's name / business credibility, you are out of line. Had you not done that, I likely would have took up for you if Stewie and Vanilla, Allie or whoever gave you grief. But you had to take it further.

Keep it up. You reap what you sow.
That is not my intention whatsoever.
If you want to discuss somethign call me . Period, I refuse to deal with this publicly becuase it has nothign to do with the public it's a matter between them and myself.

954 937 2475

brand0n 05-02-2005 10:17 AM
stiffycash hired you after this?

wow.

baddog 05-02-2005 10:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by brand0n
stiffycash hired you after this?

wow.

Drinking is an asset over there . . . it helps with the dodgeball tournaments

Phoenix 05-02-2005 10:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by brand0n
stiffycash hired you after this?

wow.

jealous?

Stiffycash rules...Rinaldo will learn much with Mike, Atom and wizzo to follow.

atom 05-02-2005 10:32 AM
thanks for the kind words Brad :-)

Stewie 05-02-2005 10:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rinaldo
I have nothing to say I've already apologized to Stewie and Vanilla (not this thread btw)

As for all you high horsemen... thanks you really make life interesting. I have never fucked anyone over business wise and I do not condone the behavior which is mentioned in previous threads. I haven't had a drink in 2 weeks nor will I.
You apologized for the comments and somewhat for your behavior at the Forum, via email, but you have yet to admit to such here, as well as nothing about your attack on our integrity.

Stewie 05-02-2005 11:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rinaldo
That is not my intention whatsoever.
If you want to discuss somethign call me . Period, I refuse to deal with this publicly becuase it has nothign to do with the public it's a matter between them and myself.

954 937 2475
This IS a public mater, because you attacked our reputation and called us liars via this public forum. Besides, I tried to work all of this out with you offline, but you refused to admit having done anything wrong other than have too much to drink and posting a rude comment.

WiredGuy 05-02-2005 11:06 AM
LOL, I love the bouncing banana heads Stewie, lol.
WG

brand0n 05-02-2005 11:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix
jealous?

Stiffycash rules...Rinaldo will learn much with Mike, Atom and wizzo to follow.
never had anything bad to say about them, i was just wondering

and no. im not jealous of this clown. nor do i want any more to do with you. fuckin bitch get off my nuts. you are starting to cause chaffing.

Raven 05-02-2005 11:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by swedguy
Alcohol brings out the worst in people. Not everybody, but too many :(
Was he drunk after? When he insulted Vanilla deVille, whom I will always love because she signed a pic of herself for my son at Internext Florida?

Lots of people drink and maybe they go too far. It's not the mistake. It's what you do after the mistake is made...that counts.

This thread offered a back handed apology...and excuses.

We no longer live back in the day...when it was okay to grope women without consequences.....or drink to the point of embarrassment. Back then, it was something to brag about. Not in today's business world.

And, yes, shoe conventions are far worse. So are psychiatrist conferences, except all the drugs are legally prescribed....like exchanging phone numbers....behaviour is just as inappropriate....

Ask any hotel about shoe salesmen. LOL

Still, we're leveraging for some legitimacy. Owners can choose to do whatever they please. They are the check writers and have dominion over their behaviour and the behaviours of their reps. Even then, the consequences can be dire for future business dealings. We simply can't afford to act as we used to.....

SleazyDream 05-02-2005 11:42 AM
to those that don't know who's who here - most of the people posting in this thread are real (and many are MAJOR) players in the industry and not trolls.

ronaldo 05-02-2005 11:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
Ask any hotel about shoe salesmen. LOL
As a former Al Bundy protege, I take great exception to this comment.

For every pantyless upskirt or braless downblouse they WANT to see and strive to do so, there are about 15 they regretfully see by accident.

Vanilla DeVille 05-02-2005 12:37 PM
To everyone except Rinaldo,

Once again guys... thank you soooooo much for all of your support. It means a LOT to the both of us.



P.S. Want to hear something interesting? Rinaldo has still yet to reply to any of my ICQ's...

Cyndalie 05-02-2005 01:44 PM
This whole topic drives me nuts.

"Plus, we are in the adult biz, and Vanilla does dress sexy and flirt with friends at shows"

I'm not taking sides but this comment hit me sideways. ha! This exact situation happened to me at a show wearing baggy ass pants a long sleeve shirt and i never said boo to the guy - I didnt even know more than his name. I was dressed to divert attention, not attract it ON PURPOSE. Alot of good it did. You dont have to be a model; you just have to be female.

This type of situation has nothing to do with the biz, dress, or friendly flirting. It's the people and level of sobriety. Ever been to a bar or a party? Same crap different atmosphere.

It's a sad, sorry situation and frustrating as hell for everyone involved.

It's nice to see everyone at least try to work it out.

ronaldo 05-02-2005 01:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyndalie
This exact situation happened to me at a show wearing baggy ass pants a long sleeve shirt and i never said boo to the guy - I didnt even know more than his name. I was dressed to divert attention, not attract it ON PURPOSE.
Darlin', it doesn't matter WHAT you're wearing. You're just too damn sexy. You could be naked and guys would hit on...hmm. Okay, that didn't come out right.

WiredGuy 05-02-2005 02:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo
Darlin', it doesn't matter WHAT you're wearing. You're just too damn sexy.
I concur, and an SEO too. Damn that's hot :)
WG

Jman 05-02-2005 02:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream
its hard not to fondle stewie
WHAT!!!!!!!! :mad:

You and I need to have a discussion in Montreal... I will not tolerate you cheating on me with anyone... Not even Stewie...

Well maybe if me and Vanilla can watch :pimp

SleazyDream 05-02-2005 02:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JMan
WHAT!!!!!!!! :mad:

You and I need to have a discussion in Montreal... I will not tolerate you cheating on me with anyone... Not even Stewie...

Well maybe if me and Vanilla can watch :pimp
greese me up frenchie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SleazyDream 05-02-2005 02:12 PM
my dogs breath smells like nachoes

Jman 05-02-2005 02:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream
greese me up frenchie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only if you have shaved this time... You know me I like it when it's smooth :upsidedow

Cyndalie 05-02-2005 02:15 PM
LOL you guys, killin me. I'll take that as a compliment and be sure to backhand you one in SD :)

WiredGuy 05-02-2005 02:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JMan
WHAT!!!!!!!! :mad:

You and I need to have a discussion in Montreal... I will not tolerate you cheating on me with anyone...
Ahem, do I need to remind you of our marriage in Winnipeg.
WG

ronaldo 05-02-2005 02:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream
my dogs breath smells like nachoes
Nice edit Sleazy :)

Stewie 05-02-2005 03:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JMan
WHAT!!!!!!!! :mad:

You and I need to have a discussion in Montreal... I will not tolerate you cheating on me with anyone... Not even Stewie...

Well maybe if me and Vanilla can watch :pimp
Can't we share him?

Stewie 05-02-2005 05:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NichePay_Nader
Stew my friend you are so so...wait such a understanding man. I mean every time i see you and Van i ask you how do you do it.

And here you showed us all that your the man that you are :thumbsup

I'm not 100% sure what exactly happen but all i know is that Stew, Van are the coolest couple that i have met not only in this biz but one of the best couple ever.

I hope all this gets worked out since Rinaldo came out and apologized to everyone.

I hope once again all works out :)

Sincerly,

Nader Fasheh
Thx Bud! :thumbsup

jimmyf 05-02-2005 05:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream
ok, the apology was decent but the part about doing business after what happened - dude - show some class. At this point that would be for THEM to bring up - not you. That part left a VERY bad taste in my mouth.
I don't know any of them, but I thought about the same.
If some drunk or dope head gets in my face, that's it, they can kiss my white ass from now on.

jimmyf 05-02-2005 05:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewie
Rinaldo,

It took guts to come here and say all of that... I appreciate your apology, and do not wish to rehash old drama anymore than you do. However, my issue was never with the rude comment you made to Vanilla in the contest thread, it was just the last straw. This is GFY, and she has had worse things said to her, as we all have - My problem, besides what happened in Phoenix (which we let go and did not publicize), was that you had the balls to come on the board afterwards and start slamming Vanilla. Then, after we called you out for it, you called us liars and denied it all, saying we were making it up for publicity.

You say you are going to quit drinking to curb your behavior. That's great, and I wish you the best with it. Lots of us have had too much to drink before and done something stupid, and I don't think every drunken episode is a "hanging offence". Plus, we are in the adult biz, and Vanilla does dress sexy and flirt with friends at shows. I am not a jealous guy, and I don't hang on or bully people who hang out and flirt along with Vanilla, as long as they are respectful of her limits. However, you weren't just flirting and took it too far... You walked up to Vanilla two separate times, saying nothing and forcibly grabbing her, pulling at her clothes and body, trying to lick and kiss her. Even after she told you to stop both times, you did it again, and this time I saw it. Since all of this happened, we have had numerous girls contact us with similar stories, where you have been both verbally and physically abusive to them and other women. Then after all of this, you call us liars, trying to destroy our credibility.

As far as I am concerned, you have apologized for the drama on the board, but you have yet to even admit that you did anything wrong to us, and others, beyond a few rude words. I am not going to threaten you, or try to mess with you or your life. We've stayed out of almost all of the related threads, and we never posted about it outside of GFY. I'm tired of the whole affair and I am done with the board drama. However, I will never associate or do any business with you, as you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass. Finally, if you ever lay a finger on my wife or anyone else I know, you and I will have a major problem which will not be ended so easily.
:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

jimmyf 05-02-2005 05:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog
Will be interesting to see if he really stops drinking . . . . I have heard too many people say they were "going to" but were unable to follow thru.

It takes strength.
It takes a bunch of strength, most people don't have a clue how much. It took me 3 times quiting, I'm thinking the 3rd time worked, been 25 years.

Misty Kristy 05-02-2005 06:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewie
Vanilla and I are very thankful, overwhelmed really, at all of the love and support we have received through all of this drama. It means a lot to us, especially since we realize that this is a touchy issue, and on an public industry forum. Thank you all!!
Well, you're very good people, don't be so surprised :)

Aly 05-02-2005 06:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo
As a former Al Bundy protege, I take great exception to this comment.

For every pantyless upskirt or braless downblouse they WANT to see and strive to do so, there are about 15 they regretfully see by accident.
:1orglaugh You're SO my favourite right now! LOLOL!

GiantGnome 05-02-2005 06:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewie
Can't we share him?
damn and here i thought you were fresh meat. :Oh crap

nofx 05-02-2005 06:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
takes balls to get to this point and by the looks of it you lost some things as well - from this point you can start to rebuild and to get further than you where before - good luck
it doesnt take shit to type up something on a message board :2 cents:

Stewie 05-02-2005 10:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Misty Kristy
Well, you're very good people, don't be so surprised :)
Aw shux ma'am. :anon


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