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interesting thread twist
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how much did he make??
i missed this and now he's banned. ![]() poor guy.
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He was up to 35k last time I saw the top100 list. Legitimately.
Then they pulled all his revenue and acused him of spamming when he followed the rules to a "T". |
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The traffic is legit. They know it. They can check their logs. This is fucking rediculous. |
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Very good twist to the thread!
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hm, this thread turned even more interesting
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I understand that this affiliate was your referral, however, he did not follow our terms and conditions. For any further comments or questions, please do not hesistate to contact us by ICQ or by email. From the pay per click program: If you have low ratio, We will never switch you to another program, instead you will receive the minimum payout offered. We reserve ourselves the right to reset your payment to the minimum payout if we beleive you are taking advantage of the weekly ratio structure.
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ouch.. shame on you iwantchixxx ! lol
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He got sales last week. You admited it to me on ICQ.
He qualified for the $1 per click in the following period which is this period and he continued to send traffic. he then saw that he was making way more than last week so he bought some traffic and made his money. now you close him down? How is this spamming, commiting fraud (as you called it on ICQ) and taking advantage of something? Are you telling me that when an affiliate sends more traffic than usual once he see's his payouts raised that it's fraud, spamming and taking advantage? I complete understand where you're comming from, change your rules to protect yourself from people making more money then. He followed the rules to a "T" and you know it. |
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wow, $35,000 made from a pay per click program? jesus fuck....fishy shit there
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this shit is getting interesting
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There was NO FRAUD! Fuck. I'm completely disgusted at this. Everything was done legitimately and people get treated like frauds just because they made more money than you wanted them to. I don;t give a fuck if you made money off his 35k or not... he qualified for the amount per click legitimately and he sent more traffic legitimately then you come here calling him a fraud and a spammer. Not impressed one bit. I'm still waiting for this proof that he signed up himself to qualify for the $1 per click as you said in ICQ... or was it chargebacks yous aid? Oh wait, you said both, including spamming as well, so that's three baseless acusations. |
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IWANTU TOS:
We may, in our sole discretion, terminate or suspend your access to all or part of the Service at any time, with or without notice, for any reason, including, without limitation, breach of this Agreement. If you have a low ratio, We will never switch you to another program, instead you will receive the minimum payout offered. We reserve ourselves the right to reset your payment to the minimum payout if we beleive you are intentionally frauding the weekly ratio structure. 1:8000 $0.00001 (Minimum payout to prevent fraud)
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Yup, unfortunately they have the ball ont hat one. They deem it as "frauding" and have full discretion to switch the payout.
So basically. send lots of traffic after qualifying and they can drop teh payout if they feel like it. nice way to do business. Funny though... that "intentionally frauding the weekly ratio structure" read "taking advantage of the weekly ratio structure" earlier. |
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Answer to iwantchixx
I guess this thread is only about iwantchixx, so I will reply to you.
My apologies for not being clear earlier. The affiliate did not spam, thus his account was not blocked, however, he sent one click and one signup last week. Thus, he qualified, this week for the $1 per click ratio. However, his signup turned out to be a fraud out of a 1:1 ratio!!!!! According to our Pay per click program: Affiliates sending several hits from the same IP will immediately be cancelled and their payment blocked. We keep track of all IP addresses and log them for several months to prevent non-qualified repeated visitors. Payments are issued every thursday of the week If you have a low ratio, We will never switch you to another program, instead you will receive the minimum payout offered. We reserve ourselves the right to reset your payment to the minimum payout if we beleive you are intentionally frauding the weekly ratio structure. The affiliate's revenues have been revoked and reset to the minimum payout. Because the only signup he had last week was obvisouly not a legitimate signup. I understand that this affiliate was referred by you and I understand that you had hopes to earn his commission, however, be assured that no one is changing any rules. If you have any further comments or questions, please do not hesistate to contact your account manager. There is no need to make a soap opera on GFY out of this ![]()
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iwantu, you guys may want to change that idea of paying future traffic for past traffic productivity. what if that 1 signup was legit and the person only sent 1 hit that week ? then the next week he sends 100k clicks, you owe him $100k no matter the productivity that week.
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You still accused the guy of outright spamming when you first shut him down... now your changing your story.
Doesnt look good.
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We are going to fix that in the future by applying the ratio DAILY. So for the pay per click program only, afiliates will earn a PPC based on the day ratio. As for other programs, they are all based on the number of signups sent. Thanks for the comment.
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but just so I'm clear... the guy gets a higher payout, and you TERM him for sending MORE traffic?
what am I mising thats wrong?? cuzz that seems like common sense to me, not fraud
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That's precisely what they should have done to begin with. Instead, this guys ent lots of traffic after getting a legit signup and lost his ass on it.
Micheal can;t even keep his stories straight trying to get out of paying that 35k. I;d be scrambling to but when it coems down to it, I would pay the guy because he did everything legit. |
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Okay I have decided, pay the man.
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So it was..
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and for the record. I don;t care about my commision at this point. It was just gravy that was unexpected. I care more about that guy getting fucked over.
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Sounds more like he exploited the system, but did it well within the rules. Maybe you should of waited for definitave proof that his signup was fraud before entering "OMFG 35k ban him now" mode. All in all this seems real shady, and I wouldn't hold your breathe for their decision to be overturned iwantchixx. Just my 2 cents, not that anyone cares. ;)
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crazy threadddd
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He got his payout bumped to $1/click because of a 1:1 ratio with one signup?
This sounds like an oversight, or a bug in the system. If I were IWantU I would definitely not pay the $35k. |
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Guys, if I was getting a buck a click I could find 36k clicks to send in to the program. But he sent one click and got one signup? How normal is that?
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maybe next he used a user id that interfered with their payment processor generating false income from chargebacks and refunds?
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iwantu got quiet =/
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holy smokes that's some serious traffic..tell him to hit me up.. I know a couple companies who'll take that traffic!!! ;)
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if he got 0 legitimate signups the previous week, it doesn't matter. he'd get minimum payout, which is what they look like they're going to pay him.. although, he definitely was out to exploit the program. most programs would terminate him for that.
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what if 2 weeks from now 500 of those uniques actually sign up? The the guy got screwed and iwantu gets paid.
total crap. I'll never send traffic to iwantu after this. I mean I understand that the circumstances are fishy but to totally flush him.....why not hold onto the payout for a while and see if any of the people he refered sign up? |
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I know one thing for sure. I am now on a Russian Mafia hit list somewhere for pointing this out
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Sperminator, name 1 program who would pay for someone abusing or exploiting their payout system, which results in frauding them to the tune of $35,000+
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I only see $10k for the whole month? I dont get it. Thats chump change..
Am I missing something?
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