ARS Version 12 Phase 17 Beta Version 1.237 - GoFuckYourself.com

M.D.P. · 04-23-2005, 01:07 PM

Give me a break. Cool cars on a splash page don't cover up the pile of confusion that ARS has been for the last couple years.

Go ahead webmasters...built those tours for BYOT. Just don't expect it to exist in a year when they change their mind again and decide to go to version 13 or 14 or 27...fuck it, who can count anymore.

I think I will take my business where their is more emphasis on the product and the webmaster and less on the owners toys.

polish_aristocrat · 04-23-2005, 01:09 PM

I agree, just talked to a friend about it, ARS is a great and honest program, but they change things kinda too often.

Programs like Nasty Dollars or Silver Cash don't change anything, while ARS changes things every 6 months.

Aric · 04-23-2005, 05:38 PM

Best post of the day.

I still don't understand why all these programs do the whole "we just released Blah v7.2!!!!!!!!!"

Doesn't create excitement for me, just thoughts of program instability.

How about just say "hey, we redesigned our affiliate site, we thought it was time for a change, check it out". That'll do for me

Tempest · 04-23-2005, 06:29 PM

I'm so angry with ARS. When they dumped all the other sites I sucked it up and promoted the new stuff.. But they're too interested in changing things over there all the fucking time instead of making what they have work.. I don't know how may times the links to HSN have been fucked up.. then they changed it around and sales disappeared... It's been over a year and they should have 52 episodes in their reality sites.. I don't know if they have even half of that. Stop fucking with crap and introducing new stuff that no one really gives a shit about.. Make the stuff you have SELL.. How fucking hard is it to figure that out.

xxxice · 04-23-2005, 06:57 PM

Have not tried them in years

Pipecrew · 04-23-2005, 07:05 PM

I just realized the ///ARS logo, looks just like the one for BMW M3

romeoboi · 04-23-2005, 07:24 PM

Yeah-
I got screwed over when ARS cancelled BYOT... I started building a site for a gay ebony / thug niche about two months before they cancelled the BYOTs. I was under the impression that things were stable and fine, so I bought a fair amount of content because I had a lot of success when my BYOT was first an AVS site....

So I'm finishing up the tour and promo content, and then I go to ARS to submit and guess what? They had cancelled it two days earlier

ugh...

Tempest · 04-23-2005, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romeoboi

Yeah-
I got screwed over when ARS cancelled BYOT... I started building a site for a gay ebony / thug niche about two months before they cancelled the BYOTs. I was under the impression that things were stable and fine, so I bought a fair amount of content because I had a lot of success when my BYOT was first an AVS site....

So I'm finishing up the tour and promo content, and then I go to ARS to submit and guess what? They had cancelled it two days earlier

ugh...

Yeah well you're in luck.. BYOT is back... Who the fuck cares... 52+ episodes for the current reality sites.. links that work all the damn time.. and tours/pages that converts.. that's what I want..

KRL · 04-23-2005, 08:33 PM

ARS has made a lot of money for a lot of people in this industry. And that's the bottom line.

Spunky · 04-23-2005, 08:37 PM

Sometimes change is good..but just like anything else..if it doesn't work move on

polish_aristocrat · 04-24-2005, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

ARS has made a lot of money for a lot of people in this industry. And that's the bottom line.

Fact is also that now they are nowhere as big as their used to be, and nothing happens without a reason.

WiredGuy · 04-24-2005, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipecrew

I just realized the ///ARS logo, looks just like the one for BMW M3

That's where I've seen it before, I swore it looked familiar.
WG

BRISK · 04-24-2005, 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

ARS has made a lot of money for a lot of people in this industry. And that's the bottom line.

I think it's more important to consider whether anyone is making a lot of money with them anymore. I've made big money with ARS, but I haven't sent them any traffic in the past year because sales just went to shit for me. Now I think of ARS as a bloated dinosaur with no soul. I hope this upcoming "New Standard" will really bring ARS back to its former self, but somehow I'm doubting it will.

Theo · 04-24-2005, 05:55 AM

i still make good sales with ARS and looking forward for their new program

Marc De · 04-24-2005, 08:39 AM

I see a lot of doubt here on what the 'new' ARS will bring. The fact of the matter is, its not really that new. Its leveraging the decisions (that were extremely difficult to make) that we made last year and going back to where we were.

I'm not going trying to over promise on this product. I'm not trying to over sell it. We're doing things differently and all in a good and positive way.

Change can be good and based upon some of your reactions to the changes we HAD to make last year, which were VERY tough and changed ARS from being near the top to offering a smaller, less diverse product; change is ABSOLUTELY necessary. The first step in the right direction was the addition of 20 niche sites in Oct of last year. This next step is the final phase of that move. We have the ability to cover so many niches and with the proper amount of content. We have added more control for you to decide what works best for YOUR traffic. We're doing it all with the backing that you KNOW you'll be paid and paid well @ $40 per sign up.

Many of you think we made a mistake doing what we did. I've tried to fully explain the situation over and over as to why we had to do what we did. That was not a move to try to become better, that was a move to stay solvent and stay in business. Those decisions allowed us to stick around and continue to payout millions of dollars. And there is something you can NEVER argue with, we ALWAYS pay our affiliates!!

Now, that said, once we release this product, I'll let that product sell itself. I am confident that its good enough to do so

Marc De · 04-24-2005, 08:41 AM

Oh and finally, I'm not trying to flaunt my cars. I apologize for those of you that took it that way. However, based upon the car thread I did over a year ago, its 'views' and marketing that I should use to my advantage. That is all I was attempting to do.

Hey, I know of a few accounts that I've purchased cars for as well. In fact, one of those accounts received THREE!!! Escalades from ARS

Not only do we know how to make money for ourselves, but we also know how to make money for our webmasters. The last year has been tough, but you can bet with this new release its going to be MUCH easier

Marc De · 04-24-2005, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRISK

I think it's more important to consider whether anyone is making a lot of money with them anymore. I've made big money with ARS, but I haven't sent them any traffic in the past year because sales just went to shit for me. Now I think of ARS as a bloated dinosaur with no soul. I hope this upcoming "New Standard" will really bring ARS back to its former self, but somehow I'm doubting it will.

I invite you to join our beta test. You can get a sneak peak at what we have in store. I think you may be pleasantly surprised!

WiredGuy · 04-24-2005, 01:11 PM

Well said Marc. Good luck on the new release.
WG

M.D.P. · 04-24-2005, 10:15 PM

Well Mr. De... I couldn't let you be a thread killer.

Just wanted one last bump before I let off.

04-23-2005, 01:07 PM	#1
M.D.P. Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: MY $ SILO Posts: 170	ARS Version 12 Phase 17 Beta Version 1.237 Give me a break. Cool cars on a splash page don't cover up the pile of confusion that ARS has been for the last couple years. Go ahead webmasters...built those tours for BYOT. Just don't expect it to exist in a year when they change their mind again and decide to go to version 13 or 14 or 27...fuck it, who can count anymore. I think I will take my business where their is more emphasis on the product and the webmaster and less on the owners toys. __________________ Beat it.

04-23-2005, 01:09 PM	#2
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	I agree, just talked to a friend about it, ARS is a great and honest program, but they change things kinda too often. Programs like Nasty Dollars or Silver Cash don't change anything, while ARS changes things every 6 months. __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

04-23-2005, 05:38 PM	#3
Aric Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,209	Best post of the day. I still don't understand why all these programs do the whole "we just released Blah v7.2!!!!!!!!!" Doesn't create excitement for me, just thoughts of program instability. How about just say "hey, we redesigned our affiliate site, we thought it was time for a change, check it out". That'll do for me Last edited by Aric; 04-23-2005 at 05:40 PM..

04-23-2005, 07:24 PM	#7
romeoboi Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 343	Yeah- I got screwed over when ARS cancelled BYOT... I started building a site for a gay ebony / thug niche about two months before they cancelled the BYOTs. I was under the impression that things were stable and fine, so I bought a fair amount of content because I had a lot of success when my BYOT was first an AVS site.... So I'm finishing up the tour and promo content, and then I go to ARS to submit and guess what? They had cancelled it two days earlier ugh... __________________ Cash in on Exclusive ZERO TOLERANCE DVD Downloads!

04-23-2005, 08:33 PM	#9
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04-23-2005, 06:29 PM	#4
Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	I'm so angry with ARS. When they dumped all the other sites I sucked it up and promoted the new stuff.. But they're too interested in changing things over there all the fucking time instead of making what they have work.. I don't know how may times the links to HSN have been fucked up.. then they changed it around and sales disappeared... It's been over a year and they should have 52 episodes in their reality sites.. I don't know if they have even half of that. Stop fucking with crap and introducing new stuff that no one really gives a shit about.. Make the stuff you have SELL.. How fucking hard is it to figure that out.

04-23-2005, 06:57 PM	#5
xxxice Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,042	Have not tried them in years

04-23-2005, 07:05 PM	#6
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	I just realized the ///ARS logo, looks just like the one for BMW M3

04-23-2005, 08:37 PM	#10
Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,970	Sometimes change is good..but just like anything else..if it doesn't work move on __________________ *YOUR INFORMATION HERE*

04-24-2005, 05:55 AM	#14
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	i still make good sales with ARS and looking forward for their new program

04-24-2005, 08:39 AM	#15
Marc De Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 632	I see a lot of doubt here on what the 'new' ARS will bring. The fact of the matter is, its not really that new. Its leveraging the decisions (that were extremely difficult to make) that we made last year and going back to where we were. I'm not going trying to over promise on this product. I'm not trying to over sell it. We're doing things differently and all in a good and positive way. Change can be good and based upon some of your reactions to the changes we HAD to make last year, which were VERY tough and changed ARS from being near the top to offering a smaller, less diverse product; change is ABSOLUTELY necessary. The first step in the right direction was the addition of 20 niche sites in Oct of last year. This next step is the final phase of that move. We have the ability to cover so many niches and with the proper amount of content. We have added more control for you to decide what works best for YOUR traffic. We're doing it all with the backing that you KNOW you'll be paid and paid well @ $40 per sign up. Many of you think we made a mistake doing what we did. I've tried to fully explain the situation over and over as to why we had to do what we did. That was not a move to try to become better, that was a move to stay solvent and stay in business. Those decisions allowed us to stick around and continue to payout millions of dollars. And there is something you can NEVER argue with, we ALWAYS pay our affiliates!! Now, that said, once we release this product, I'll let that product sell itself. I am confident that its good enough to do so

04-24-2005, 08:41 AM	#16
Marc De Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 632	Oh and finally, I'm not trying to flaunt my cars. I apologize for those of you that took it that way. However, based upon the car thread I did over a year ago, its 'views' and marketing that I should use to my advantage. That is all I was attempting to do. Hey, I know of a few accounts that I've purchased cars for as well. In fact, one of those accounts received THREE!!! Escalades from ARS Not only do we know how to make money for ourselves, but we also know how to make money for our webmasters. The last year has been tough, but you can bet with this new release its going to be MUCH easier

04-24-2005, 01:11 PM	#18
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,504	Well said Marc. Good luck on the new release. WG __________________ I play with Google.

04-24-2005, 10:15 PM	#19
M.D.P. Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: MY $ SILO Posts: 170	Well Mr. De... I couldn't let you be a thread killer. Just wanted one last bump before I let off. __________________ Beat it.