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Rich 04-23-2005 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeriSexy
Poor planning, air strikes by coalition forces and a "climate of violence" have led to more than 100,000 extra deaths in Iraq, scientists claim.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3962969.stm


Study puts Iraqi toll at 100,000

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/29/iraq.deaths/

Liberal propaganda. Plus, those people attacked the WTC and they were building nuclear weapons to use against the USA, so their children deserve to die.

VeriSexy 04-23-2005 05:26 PM

Civilian death toll in Iraq exceeds 100,000

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6596

Death toll of Iraqi civilians tops 100,000, study says

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...333734,00.html

Study Puts Iraqi Deaths of Civilians at 100,000

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/29/in...d24 8&ei=5070

100,000 Iraqi civilians dead, says study

http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle7170.htm

VeriSexy 04-23-2005 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich
Liberal propaganda. Plus, those people attacked the WTC and they were building nuclear weapons to use against the USA, so their children deserve to die.


Yup, all Iraqi men women and children should die cause Bush said so :1orglaugh :Oh crap

directfiesta 04-23-2005 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich
Liberal propaganda. Plus, those people attacked the WTC and they were building nuclear weapons to use against the USA, so their children deserve to die.

and also tried to kill Dubya father....

SuckOnThis 04-23-2005 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne
Shut up kid,

I shamed you when I showed the board what you really are.

Now get lost, grown folks are trying to do business here.


Debates between you and Rich are comparable to the first Bush Kerry debate, but I'm sure you take that as a compliment :1orglaugh

VeriSexy 04-23-2005 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta
and also tried to kill Dubya father....

WTF, those sand niggas are fighting back!!! We are trying to liberate them from Saddam. Let's nuke those rag heads and turn it into glass!!!!!! :1orglaugh :Oh crap

SuckOnThis 04-23-2005 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by project_naughty

Failing in Iraq != installing elections, getting rid of a tyrant and saving xxx,xxx lives.

"We have "solid" evidence Iraq possesses weapons of mass destruction." GW - December 6, 2002

"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." Dick Cheney - August 26, 2002

Not a failure for Bushco and Halliburton, but a failure of the American people for buying into this bullshit, and even more of a failure for people like you that still support it.


Quote:

Originally Posted by project_naughty
Oil prices are mainly due to high world demand, mostly from the Chinese.

So in the last year and a half the Chinese population has suddenly almost doubled? Its no different than if a milkman became president and the price of milk went to $10 a gallon, use some common sense for christ sakes.


Quote:

Originally Posted by project_naughty
Wouldn't know about your legal system. I'm not American.

Then shut the fuck up.

Rich 04-23-2005 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis
Debates between you and Rich are comparable to the first Bush Kerry debate, but I'm sure you take that as a compliment :1orglaugh


lol, good call. The main difference being that Bush didn't walk away thinking he had "shamed" anyone. :1orglaugh

Isidoro Caņones 04-23-2005 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by project_naughty
You really are not very clever. Let me guess. You're 17 years old and have no experience of the world.

Bearing in mind that the Iraqis used to live under a genocidal maniac and now they have elections and a chance to make a better world for themsleves, an air of legitimacy has been lent to their situation.

I'm unaware of the elections not meeting international criteria but are these the same international criteria which allowed the Iraqis to live in misery for so long under the threat of torture and death without lifting a finger to help them? If so then I would suggest that the international criteria in question were not valid themselves.

Perhaps you should email your freinds and explain that as soldiers they have to expect that they might die and if they don't like it they should not have signed up in the first place.

There's no need for me to go and fight. I already give alot of money (for an individual) to causes which involve killing jihadis and promoting freedom in the place of religious fanatacism.

Well, guess who is not very cleaver.
Do you know from where Saddam got all those tech to gass their own people? Do you know that after Desert Storm more than 500.000 childrens died in Iraq due the embargo?
Do you know that Saddam Hussein have the Key City of detroit?
Do you know that he got it in the same time that he was gassin to the Iranian? and the USA was the only country against a sanction to Iraq?
Do you know that 1 day before to the invasion of Kuwait, Saddam got a credit for 40.000 millions?

I have a long sheet of facts that I guess, you don't know.

Promoting freedom, that is the funniest past of your whole post, promote freedom, ask to the people in Latin America how USA promoted freedom here, how do they educated to our militar in torture techniques in the School of America, ask to Agustin Allende, how the CIA overthrowed he elected goverment to put in power to the genocide of Augusto Pinochet, or in Argentina, where 30.000 died with the pupet goverment imposed by the USA.

Ask to the Iranian if they are happy of how USA armed to Saddam to the teeth to kill them, because the decided to overthrow the puppet goverment of the Sha in Iran.

Kid, go and get some history books, stop of jerking yourself and then come back with some knowledge.

directfiesta 04-23-2005 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isidoro Caņones
Well, guess who is not very cleaver.
Do you know from where Saddam got all those tech to gass their own people? Do you know that after Desert Storm more than 500.000 childrens died in Iraq due the embargo?
Do you know that Saddam Hussein have the Key City of detroit?
Do you know that he got it in the same time that he was gassin to the Iranian? and the USA was the only country against a sanction to Iraq?
Do you know that 1 day before to the invasion of Kuwait, Saddam got a credit for 40.000 millions?

I have a long sheet of facts that I guess, you don't know.

Promoting freedom, that is the funniest past of your whole post, promote freedom, ask to the people in Latin America how USA promoted freedom here, how do they educated to our militar in torture techniques in the School of America, ask to Agustin Allende, how the CIA overthrowed he elected goverment to put in power to the genocide of Augusto Pinochet, or in Argentina, where 30.000 died with the pupet goverment imposed by the USA.

Ask to the Iranian if they are happy of how USA armed to Saddam to the teeth to kill them, because the decided to overthrow the puppet goverment of the Sha in Iran.

Kid, go and get some history books, stop of jerking yourself and then come back with some knowledge.

It's not fair ... You base your argument on facts, documented on top of it ....

So it doesn't count, it is now considered as lies, propaganda.....

Everyone knows that the USA spreads freedom.... And Saddam was evil: he gassed 10 million people, his own ...

:winkwink:

AdultMovies.bz 04-23-2005 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by project_naughty
You're not too bright are you, son?

Failing in Iraq != installing elections, getting rid of a tyrant and saving xxx,xxx lives.

Oil prices are mainly due to high world demand, mostly from the Chinese.

He is not killing your soldiers in Iraq. The jihadis are.

Wouldn't know about your legal system. I'm not American.

Drilling in Alaska. If only we could just magic oil out of thin air, eh?

Sucking cock? Is that something between only you and GW?

Dude you're officialy a fuckin moron...

Donny 04-23-2005 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Meta Ridley
I pick my nose.

me too. all the time.

VeriSexy 04-23-2005 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isidoro Caņones
Well, guess who is not very cleaver.
Do you know from where Saddam got all those tech to gass their own people? Do you know that after Desert Storm more than 500.000 childrens died in Iraq due the embargo?
Do you know that Saddam Hussein have the Key City of detroit?
Do you know that he got it in the same time that he was gassin to the Iranian? and the USA was the only country against a sanction to Iraq?
Do you know that 1 day before to the invasion of Kuwait, Saddam got a credit for 40.000 millions?

I have a long sheet of facts that I guess, you don't know.

Promoting freedom, that is the funniest past of your whole post, promote freedom, ask to the people in Latin America how USA promoted freedom here, how do they educated to our militar in torture techniques in the School of America, ask to Agustin Allende, how the CIA overthrowed he elected goverment to put in power to the genocide of Augusto Pinochet, or in Argentina, where 30.000 died with the pupet goverment imposed by the USA.

Ask to the Iranian if they are happy of how USA armed to Saddam to the teeth to kill them, because the decided to overthrow the puppet goverment of the Sha in Iran.

Kid, go and get some history books, stop of jerking yourself and then come back with some knowledge.

WOW, that is all I can say

Rich 04-23-2005 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta
It's not fair ... You base your argument on facts, documented on top of it ....

So it doesn't count, it is now considered as lies, propaganda.....

Everyone knows that the USA spreads freedom.... And Saddam was evil: he gassed 10 million people, his own ...

:winkwink:

Exactly, plus, what would someone from South America know about the USA's idea of "freedom" and "liberating countries"? :1orglaugh

WarChild 04-23-2005 07:25 PM

There is no credible report or survey saying 100,000 Iraqi Civillians have died as a result of the war. You're talking about the Lancet Study.

The Lacet Survey reports with a 95% confidence rating that the death toll from the invasion was only somewhere between 8000 and 194,000. SOMEWHERE BETWEEN. It could be as low as 8000.

How did the Lancet Survey come up with these numbers? Its researchers interviewed 7868 Iraqis in 988 households in 33 neighbourhoods around Iraq, allegedly chosen randomly, and asked who in the house had died in the 14 months before the invasion and who in the 18 months after. They then concluded there had been 100,000 extra Iraqi deaths since the invasion ? by applying the difference in the two rates to all Iraq's 24 million people.

According to the survey, Iraqis before the war were dying at the rate of just five in 1000 people each year. The death rate among infants was around the average for the region ? about 29 in 1000.

But what evidence we have tells us these pre-war death rates were actually much higher. Dated United Nations figures suggest the overall death rate was well over seven in every 1000 ? or close to, if not higher than, the present rate of 7.9 in every 1000 that the Lancet survey suggests.

But even more persuasive are 2002 figures from UNICEF, which in a much bigger survey of 24,000 households found the infant mortality rate in Iraq before the war was actually a tragic 108 deaths per 1000 infants.

This is more than three times higher than the Lancet survey claims was the case ? and double what even the survey claims is the infant mortality rate today.

Anyone running around spouting "100,000 dead Iraqis" is no more informed than people running around shouting "But Saddam had WMD".

Whatever supports your case though, right?

Rich 04-23-2005 07:25 PM

Oh that's right I forgot, South Americans were the victims of Americas last "war on terror".

People inside the US bubble don't realize that elsewhere, people don't have 10 minute attention spans.

Wolfy 04-23-2005 07:42 PM

I voted for Bush.



























Not to oversimplify things, but - fuck off. :D

Wolfy 04-23-2005 07:44 PM

I only posted here to give you sissypants tree hugging liberal welfare baby commie fucks a reason to live, I won't be back - my work here is done. :D

FunForOne 04-23-2005 07:50 PM

Listening to rich give advice about America is the equivalent of a football coach letting the oposing team's fans pick his starting quarterback.

WarChild 04-23-2005 07:52 PM

Don't forget that Bush is going to put is all out of business. The sky is falling, the sky is falling.

Can anybody point to a single person put out of business by the Bush administration for obscenity WITHOUT tax fraud?

FunForOne 04-23-2005 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild
Don't forget that Bush is going to put is all out of business. The sky is falling, the sky is falling.

Can anybody point to a single person put out of business by the Bush administration for obscenity WITHOUT tax fraud?



I was to worried about being drafted in the Army the day after he got elected.

Rich 04-23-2005 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunForOne
Listening to rich give advice about America is the equivalent of a football coach letting the oposing team's fans pick his starting quarterback.

Once again, the world isn't a big game like the make it seem on your TV. Take the advice of everyone here and grow up a little before you continue trying to post in political threads.

FunForOne 04-23-2005 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich
Once again, the world isn't a big game like the make it seem on your TV. Take the advice of everyone here and grow up a little before you continue trying to post in political threads.



I'm guessing your hoping everyone didn't catch your fake article you posted on GFY.


This is an adult webmaster board, quit posting your fake anti-american articles on here.

Go find a political board where people like you and get hard dicks when they can believe your fake shit.

You are insecure about your place in the world. Maybe you failed out of school, I dont care. Just shut up.

Once again, you hate the United States, why should we take you advice from you on how to run our country?

QuaWee 04-23-2005 08:05 PM

wtf is a jihadi?

12clicks 04-23-2005 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonpotz
Why?

And now that he is failing in iraq (a war that shouldn't have been in the first place) and is destroying the world (killing our boys in iraq, taking down our judiciary system to fit his agenda, drilling in alaska, skyrocketing oil prices, sucking cock), do you feel you made a mistake?

does your mommy know you're on her computer again? :1orglaugh

Rich 04-23-2005 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunForOne
I'm guessing your hoping everyone didn't catch your fake article you posted on GFY.


This is an adult webmaster board, quit posting your fake anti-american articles on here.

Go find a political board where people like you and get hard dicks when they can believe your fake shit.

You are insecure about your place in the world. Maybe you failed out of school, I dont care. Just shut up.

Once again, you hate the United States, why should we take you advice from you on how to run our country?

You really are a nutjob. Fake article? LMFAO, go watch a little more TV pal. Then make another fake nick to laugh at your lame jokes.

WarChild 04-23-2005 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeriSexy
Civilian death toll in Iraq exceeds 100,000

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6596

Death toll of Iraqi civilians tops 100,000, study says

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...333734,00.html

Study Puts Iraqi Deaths of Civilians at 100,000

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/29/in...d24 8&ei=5070

100,000 Iraqi civilians dead, says study

http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle7170.htm

It's all based on the Lacet Survery. You might consider examining the methodology before you tout it as the gospel.

FunForOne 04-23-2005 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich
You really are a nutjob. Fake article? LMFAO, go watch a little more TV pal. Then make another fake nick to laugh at your lame jokes.



You got busted fuckface. Now your pretending like it didn't happen.



By the way, I do find it funny that you are not even in the industy and you come to gfy to spam and accuse me of having fake nicks?

What would my fake nicks be doing? Spamming? Wouldn't you kind of have to be ok with that.


Now, shut up fuckface before I call your house and tell your mom that you are on porn boards again.

VeriSexy 04-23-2005 08:28 PM

Iraq or Venezuela Next?

Is Washington planning a bloodbath in Caracas?
Stuart Munckton

The Venezuelan government headed by President Hugo Chavez repeatedly accused the US government of planning a ?new aggression? against Venezuela, including a plot to assassinate Chavez, despite pro-Chavez forces winning nine national elections in six years. Caracas claims to have information of an assassination plot to be carried out ?within 100 days? against Chavez, although the government has refused to reveal its sources.

[...]

Rodriguiz went as far as to set out possible scenarios. He said that an air-strike aiming to kill Chavez was one possibility, pointing to the bombing raid then US President Ronald Reagan ordered in 1986 to kill Libyan President Muammer Qadhafi (Qadhafi survived the raid, but his daughter was killed). The Cuban news agency Prensa Latina reported on March 15 that in the interview Rodriguez had stated that he personally expected to participate in a CIA operation to kill Chavez.

[...]

The United States openly supported a military coup against the Chavez government in April 2002, which was reversed two days later by a popular uprising. Since then, however, the US Congress-funded National Endowment For Democracy has poured millions of dollars into the groups that supported the coup.

[...]

While the US is planning an attack on Venezuela, it is unclear whether it will be able to carry it out, and, if it does, whether it will be successful or not.

From Green Left Weekly, April 6, 2005.

Venezuela Solidarity
Hands Off Venezuela

http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2005/621/621p16.htm
http://www.venezuelasolidarity.org/
http://www.handsoffvenezuela.org/


Venezuela terminates military pact with U.S.
http://washingtontimes.com/world/200...4657-5483r.htm

:helpme :helpme :helpme

Rich 04-23-2005 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunForOne
You got busted fuckface. Now your pretending like it didn't happen.



By the way, I do find it funny that you are not even in the industy and you come to gfy to spam and accuse me of having fake nicks?

What would my fake nicks be doing? Spamming? Wouldn't you kind of have to be ok with that.


Now, shut up fuckface before I call your house and tell your mom that you are on porn boards again.

lol, just because you say something over and over again, doesn't make it true. Nothing about the article you're talking about was fake, and you saying that it was over and over again has fooled exactly zero people. Carry on, if you think anyone on this board takes you seriously you're kidding yourself. If you'd pay attention, you'd notice that everyone laughs at you and no one agrees with you, that's a good indication that you're a moron. Having to use fake nicks to laugh at your own jokes is another one.

It's funny how you say I'm not in the industry, when you don't know me and you know absolutely no people in this industry. I push more joins around in a day than you do in a month, so you questioning my credibility doesn't really bother me. I'm not going to get into a big dick competition with some clown on a message board, so when you say shit like that you're basically talking to yourself.

I'm not sure where spamming came into this, I don't spam on this board, and your fake nick wasn't spamming, it was laughing at your own joke. I guess you don't understand what spamming means either, trust me no one is shocked.

The funniest thing about you is not that you're stupid or that you try to talk about things you don't really understand, it's that you honestly believe people take you seriously. Time for a reality check pal.

Rich 04-23-2005 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeriSexy
Iraq or Venezuela Next?

Is Washington planning a bloodbath in Caracas?
Stuart Munckton

The Venezuelan government headed by President Hugo Chavez repeatedly accused the US government of planning a ?new aggression? against Venezuela, including a plot to assassinate Chavez, despite pro-Chavez forces winning nine national elections in six years. Caracas claims to have information of an assassination plot to be carried out ?within 100 days? against Chavez, although the government has refused to reveal its sources.

[...]

Rodriguiz went as far as to set out possible scenarios. He said that an air-strike aiming to kill Chavez was one possibility, pointing to the bombing raid then US President Ronald Reagan ordered in 1986 to kill Libyan President Muammer Qadhafi (Qadhafi survived the raid, but his daughter was killed). The Cuban news agency Prensa Latina reported on March 15 that in the interview Rodriguez had stated that he personally expected to participate in a CIA operation to kill Chavez.

[...]

The United States openly supported a military coup against the Chavez government in April 2002, which was reversed two days later by a popular uprising. Since then, however, the US Congress-funded National Endowment For Democracy has poured millions of dollars into the groups that supported the coup.

[...]

While the US is planning an attack on Venezuela, it is unclear whether it will be able to carry it out, and, if it does, whether it will be successful or not.

From Green Left Weekly, April 6, 2005.

Venezuela Solidarity
Hands Off Venezuela

http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2005/621/621p16.htm
http://www.venezuelasolidarity.org/
http://www.handsoffvenezuela.org/


Venezuela terminates military pact with U.S.
http://washingtontimes.com/world/200...4657-5483r.htm

:helpme :helpme :helpme


"Democracy" is on the march.

BlueWire 04-23-2005 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonpotz
Why?

And now that he is failing in iraq (a war that shouldn't have been in the first place) and is destroying the world (killing our boys in iraq, taking down our judiciary system to fit his agenda, drilling in alaska, skyrocketing oil prices, sucking cock), do you feel you made a mistake?

I hate buch just as much as the next guy...but everyone's right...get over it. Nothing you can do except pray we make it through these 4 years alive

Rich 04-23-2005 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueWire
I hate buch just as much as the next guy...but everyone's right...get over it. Nothing you can do except pray we make it through these 4 years alive

Close your eyes and hope for the best, thank God everyone's not as complacent as you. When people start ignoring the bad things governments are doing, they get worse.

mockingbich 04-23-2005 10:04 PM

When America's economy fails and our military is unable to meet it's obligations.... Then all you America bashers will be shitting your pants. THere is nothing stopping the Chinese from devouring you!

Especially Canada... A boy scout troop could conquer that country

Rich 04-23-2005 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mockingbich
When America's economy fails and our military is unable to meet it's obligations.... Then all you America bashers will be shitting your pants. THere is nothing stopping the Chinese from devouring you!

Especially Canada... A boy scout troop could conquer that country

You seem to forget, America is the only country that takes other countries by force. China is not going to invade anyone besides Taiwan, especially not Canada. China is not an empire, they've never invaded another country. America on the other hand has launched something like 165 military actions in the past 150 or so years, meanwhile, since the second world war the only wars America hasn't started have occurred between bordering nations. The only country who posses a threat to Canada or anyone else is the USA. You need to stop listening to the nonsense if you think China is going to invade a foreign country.

It's times like these when I wish Canada was a part of the EU. Americans just don't seem to get it for some reason. I think the fact that most Americans believe in the devil has a lot to do with it, something like 70% honestly believe that there is true evil in the world, most of these believe that God has blessed America in some way that he hasn't blessed the people of other nations. If you believe in a literal evil, it's not surprising that you'd think the solution to everything is to kill foreigners. In Europe on the other hand, they've been killing each other for a thousand years, and most of the people no longer see violence as the solution to everything. They realize what war really is. Too bad Americans don't get taught real history in school, maybe that would help.

VeriSexy 04-23-2005 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mockingbich
When America's economy fails and our military is unable to meet it's obligations.... Then all you America bashers will be shitting your pants. THere is nothing stopping the Chinese from devouring you!

Especially Canada... A boy scout troop could conquer that country

Who the hell keeps filling your tiny head with China will invade and rule the world propaganda? They only have a brown water navy..........

smokingdawn 04-23-2005 10:48 PM

You really think Kerry would have been any better?

xclusive 04-23-2005 10:50 PM

Nope as I don't think he is the right man for the job at all

SuckOnThis 04-23-2005 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokingdawn
You really think Kerry would have been any better?


Dennis the Menace would have been better.

Rich 04-23-2005 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeriSexy
Who the hell keeps filling your tiny head with China will invade and rule the world propaganda? They only have a brown water navy..........

If you take in enough American media, you start to think that everyone and everything is a threat to you. I remember one day in the 80's I was watching CBS, they got me scared shitless of the great empire of Grenada.


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