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  • KRL
    Entrepreneur
    • Oct 2002
    • 31429

    #101
    Originally posted by Steen2
    I also think of the day when domain names become obsolete.
    And it will happen. Technology has proven that over and over.

    The only thing guaranteed in business is CHANGE.
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    • KRL
      Entrepreneur
      • Oct 2002
      • 31429

      #102
      Thanks again DB. Adam just closed down the bogus seller thread over there.

      If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor
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      • sonofsam
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Dec 2004
        • 18642

        #103
        Originally posted by KRL
        Thanks again DB. Adam just closed down the bogus seller thread over there.

        good lol...

        i remember coming across a site that was selling my domain sexequip.com the other day and they said they had it appraised at 300-400k
        I like turtles.

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        • sonofsam
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Dec 2004
          • 18642

          #104
          oh heres a question... 4 letter .com's.... will they be as valuable as 3 letter .com's soon?
          I like turtles.

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          • jigga
            Confirmed User
            • May 2001
            • 302

            #105
            Originally posted by KRL
            Another big factor you have to watch are regulations.

            What if the government decides ok if you have a big type-in domain you have the responsibility to build a real site on there and not just a page of PPC links.

            Kind of like zoning laws are in real world real estate.

            It'd be like saying ok you own a premium property on 5th avenue, you can't put a 1 story house on there, it has to be a high rise building to match everything else in that league.

            This could also have a dramatic impact on the type-in domains because nearly all the guys that own these don't develop them and just put PPC links on them.

            So now it would mean invest and build or you lose the rights to the domain.

            That could be Ouch! Ouch! Ouch! for all those guys and you'd see a mass flood of prime domains offered for sell and it would be a buyers market.

            Real Estate laws are put in place to keep things stable in a community, they serve a huge purpose I think. If you go to some countries outside of North America you see that they may not have these laws in place and things are just chaotic. With domains a PPC search page or whatever does not affect your neighours, the resale value of men.com is not affected if women.com is filled with pop-ups and spyware. So while comparisons between domains and real estate are valid, in this aspect of regulation I don't think it applies.

            Also with top level domains being an international thing no one goverment can set these laws. Maybe country code domains sure, but not the top level ones.

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            • KRL
              Entrepreneur
              • Oct 2002
              • 31429

              #106
              Originally posted by sonofsam
              oh heres a question... 4 letter .com's.... will they be as valuable as 3 letter .com's soon?
              Values seem to be rising for everything.
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              • sonofsam
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Dec 2004
                • 18642

                #107
                Originally posted by KRL
                Values seem to be rising for everything.
                yah i know, but do you think 4 letter .com's is a pretty safe investment and should all be snagged?
                I like turtles.

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                • paxton
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2002
                  • 1156

                  #108
                  Originally posted by KRL
                  Thanks again DB. Adam just closed down the bogus seller thread over there.

                  The person is now in Adam's java chat program saying that it was his "partner" named cdmd3 (a.k.a. Orr) who listed it for sale after having talked with you.

                  Contact ICQ: 159141828

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                  • KRL
                    Entrepreneur
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 31429

                    #109
                    Originally posted by jigga
                    Real Estate laws are put in place to keep things stable in a community, they serve a huge purpose I think. If you go to some countries outside of North America you see that they may not have these laws in place and things are just chaotic. With domains a PPC search page or whatever does not affect your neighours, the resale value of men.com is not affected if women.com is filled with pop-ups and spyware. So while comparisons between domains and real estate are valid, in this aspect of regulation I don't think it applies.

                    Also with top level domains being an international thing no one goverment can set these laws. Maybe country code domains sure, but not the top level ones.
                    All I'm saying is you never know what governments can do since they can do anything they want to.

                    Example:

                    Currently individuals who want to set up an Internet account or even use a computer in an Internet cafe must first fill out the Police File Report Form which goes to the local MPS and to the provincial-level MPS Computer Security and Supervision Office. New users also need to sign a Net Access Responsibility Agreement in which they swear not to threaten state security or reveal state secrets or to do anything that "endangers the state, obstructs public safety, or is obscene or pornographic." Finally, if they are getting a dial-up account, they must provide their ISP with detailed information including the MPS permit number for their modem.
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                    • polish_aristocrat
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 40377

                      #110
                      Originally posted by DomBuyer
                      My type-in traffic has declined slightly over time.

                      People think type-in traffic is forever. It is not. It is a temporary means to finding what you want, but as KRL points out, all it takes is one shift in technology and your real estate is worthless from that perspective.

                      That's why you'll find most of us in the biz won't pay more than a year or two tops revenue.
                      technology change is obvious but that is something that *might* happen in future

                      the current domain system is quite stable at this moment, although new extensions are added, but the "dot com" still rules for sure

                      so i was just interested what are the general trends in generic ( adult ) domain type in traffic. I can imagine that the type in traffic in adult was higher f.e in 2001 than it is now ( just a guess though ), since back then there was less free porn so people who were surfing porn just typed in hotteens.com or naughtybabes.com in their browsers and now some of them go simply direct to TGP's

                      but i am wondering if you still see a steady decline in traffic nowadays, f.e today compared to 1 year ago

                      but I am not sure if you want to share it here
                      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                      • KRL
                        Entrepreneur
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 31429

                        #111
                        Originally posted by paxton
                        The person is now in Adam's java chat program saying that it was his "partner" named cdmd3 (a.k.a. Orr) who listed it for sale after having talked with you.

                        If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor
                        from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION!

                        *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
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                        • pradaboy
                          sell me your banners
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 12931

                          #112
                          Originally posted by paxton
                          maybe member domaintalk is AKA dntalk?
                          I talked about this with a friend, dntalk has taken some heat over the last few days for unethical tactics when acquiring domains. Both are from the middle east, both regged in sept 2004 plus both seem to have a very unethical business M.O.

                          Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic!
                          FREE to register domains...
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                          • KRL
                            Entrepreneur
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 31429

                            #113
                            Originally posted by pradaboy
                            I talked about this with a friend, dntalk has taken some heat over the last few days for unethical tactics when acquiring domains. Both are from the middle east, both regged in sept 2004 plus both seem to have a very unethical business M.O.

                            Its been all tracked down now.
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                            • DomBuyer
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 2595

                              #114
                              Type-in traffic has been, from the beginning, a bit of a miracle. Any slight change in Internet technology could wipe it out--and that's been the case since the beginning.

                              KRL is right about government intervention, though the fact that many of us are structured in different countries means that we can get around any US intrusions. But never underestimate how quickly governments can shake your business model upside down. KRL's experienced and been through many cycles of this stuff, and I believe that Bush will use some of his second term to make things difficult for the business.

                              Time was, you invested in perhaps 3-5 years revenue on a domain, because Internet traffic was still growing exponentially. Now that is no longer the case, at least in the first world that is English speaking. I'd love to be Chris Chena, tapping the Latin market, as that is nothing short of explosive, and Chris has told me of some of the scale of his projects.

                              To Polish's question: I was convinced a few years ago that type-in traffic would be doomed by the rise of Google. But as sure as night falls, people still type direct into their browser the object of their fascinations.

                              Tomorrow is never guaranteed, in business or life. Prepare for change and it won't hurt as much when it comes.

                              The other significant factor at play now is, as KRL was saying, is that players from outside the domain world are now hovering, ready to buy up significant portfolios, whereas in the old days it was only other guys in the business, really.

                              I can't talk about it now, but there will be a deal in the next few months that will significantly change the landscape and drive domain values to peak levels.

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                              • cayne
                                My time is coming...
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 7476

                                #115
                                Originally posted by brand0n
                                damn. damn.com...damn
                                haha, that's really a cool one.
                                If lesbian anal is wrong, I don't want to be right.

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                                • sacX
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 2998

                                  #116
                                  Originally posted by KRL
                                  Last weeks top 10 sales were quite impressive. 21 domains were sold in the 5 fig range.

                                  1. CashFlow.com $56,500 Sedo
                                  2. HotDate.com $55,000 Sedo
                                  3. Damn.com $30,000 GreatDomains
                                  4. VideoBlog.com $21,000 AllNetServices
                                  5. Exploited.com $20,000 GreatDomains
                                  6. Covers.co.uk £10,000 = $19,178 Sedo
                                  7. Infra.com $15,500 Pool
                                  8. AskAQuestion.com $15,261 SnapNames
                                  9. IMGDirect.com $15,100 Enom's Club Drop
                                  10. Delray.com $15,000 DNForum.com

                                  damn I passed on exploited.com @ 10k late last year... then couple weeks ago i noticed slavik had it.. seems it's still his data in the whois.
                                  Have Asian Language Traffic?

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                                  • chowda
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jun 2003
                                    • 9527

                                    #117
                                    hey KRL, is there anyway of contacting u to discuss something that is non domain oriented.
                                    Someone finds you...
                                    2007

                                    PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

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                                    • HorseShit
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Dec 2004
                                      • 17513

                                      #118
                                      nice fucking domains

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                                      • KRL
                                        Entrepreneur
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 31429

                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by chowda
                                        hey KRL, is there anyway of contacting u to discuss something that is non domain oriented.
                                        Shoot me an e-mail at [email protected] or ICQ 123583718. I'll be online later.
                                        If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor
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                                        • KRL
                                          Entrepreneur
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 31429

                                          #120
                                          Like DomBuyer stated above, during the next year you're going to see some enormous porfolio deals get done. Prices are going to go crazy and people will be shaking their heads in disbelief at some of the names selling for crazy money.

                                          With all the media attention, there'll be lots of money chasing good names.

                                          And like stated above, just always be prepared for change and the unexpected from technology shifts, government regs, and the like, cause it can have a profound impact on values.
                                          If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor
                                          from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION!

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                                          • polish_aristocrat
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jul 2002
                                            • 40377

                                            #121
                                            great thread overall
                                            I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                            • shuki
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2004
                                              • 3070

                                              #122
                                              Great thread guys
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                                              • Shags
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Mar 2004
                                                • 735

                                                #123
                                                This domain buying shit has to collapse on day, your all buying and selling to each other...
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                                                • Drake
                                                  Hello world!
                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                  • 12508

                                                  #124
                                                  What recent undeveloped domain purchases have been made into successful sites? For instance, have their been other domains like men.com that were purchase a year or two ago that have since become branded?

                                                  It's intriguing and scary to think about how fast things could change in the domain arena.

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                                                  • kenny
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                    • 7245

                                                    #125
                                                    Originally posted by Shags
                                                    This domain buying shit has to collapse on day, your all buying and selling to each other...

                                                    There will always be a demand for premium domains.
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                                                    • DomBuyer
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                      • 2595

                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by Shags
                                                      This domain buying shit has to collapse on day, your all buying and selling to each other...
                                                      You're not paying attention: More and more, we're selling to non-industry people. PPC and scarcity have pushed domain values sky high for reasons that make "sense".

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                                                      • Shags
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                        • 735

                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by kenny
                                                        There will always be a demand for premium domains.
                                                        Sure but dirtyjokes.com 100K, you can get 20.000 domains for that price. One hit a day that more than dirtyjokes.com ever going to get... Undeveloped.
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                                                        • kenny
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                          • 7245

                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by Shags
                                                          Sure but dirtyjokes.com 100K, you can get 20.000 domains for that price. One hit a day that more than dirtyjokes.com ever going to get... Undeveloped.

                                                          It's more or less the branding potential of the domain.

                                                          Besides it would suck ass paying 100k per year for 20,000 average domains
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                                                          • DomBuyer
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                            • 2595

                                                            #129
                                                            Originally posted by Mike33
                                                            What recent undeveloped domain purchases have been made into successful sites? For instance, have their been other domains like men.com that were purchase a year or two ago that have since become branded?

                                                            It's intriguing and scary to think about how fast things could change in the domain arena.
                                                            You have to appreciate that these things make money, every single day, when they are undeveloped via ppc. Real world real estate isn't like that: you have to have tenants of some kind.

                                                            You never know what name you sell will end up as what brand or business. I sold swirve.com some years ago for $2500 or so (I paid reg fee for it so that was some kind of multiple) and I remember not long after I sold it sitting on vacation reading the NYTimes tech section and swrive.com was shown as one of the top 20 trafficked sites at the time.

                                                            I could have cried.

                                                            On the other hand, sweet payday for that name.

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                                                            • Shags
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                              • 735

                                                              #130
                                                              Originally posted by kenny
                                                              It's more or less the branding potential of the domain.

                                                              Besides it would suck ass paying 100k per year for 20,000 average domains
                                                              Google
                                                              Amazon
                                                              Ebay
                                                              Xanga

                                                              I'm sure they all where $15.00 a piece.
                                                              Click Here

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                                                              • kenny
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                • 7245

                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by Shags
                                                                Google
                                                                Amazon
                                                                Ebay
                                                                Xanga

                                                                I'm sure they all where $15.00 a piece.
                                                                Obviously you are going to have some exceptions.
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                                                                • shuki
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                  • 3070

                                                                  #132
                                                                  Originally posted by Shags
                                                                  Google
                                                                  Amazon
                                                                  Ebay
                                                                  Xanga

                                                                  I'm sure they all where $15.00 a piece.
                                                                  Yah they were $15 or so to reg but you are talking about two different animals.
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                                                                  • DomBuyer
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                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                    • 2595

                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by shuki
                                                                    Yah they were $15 or so to reg but you are talking about two different animals.
                                                                    People don't seem to ever get this.

                                                                    Which I guess is good, because it keeps the rif raff away from type-in names.

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                                                                    • Manowar
                                                                      jellyfish  
                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                      • 71528

                                                                      #134
                                                                      Originally posted by Shags
                                                                      Google
                                                                      Amazon
                                                                      Ebay
                                                                      Xanga

                                                                      I'm sure they all where $15.00 a piece.
                                                                      Yeah, but they built their own brands.

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                                                                      • shuki
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                                        • 3070

                                                                        #135
                                                                        Originally posted by Shags
                                                                        Google
                                                                        Amazon
                                                                        Ebay
                                                                        Xanga

                                                                        I'm sure they all where $15.00 a piece.

                                                                        These domain names are not successful because of the names. It is the other way around. You know about them because of the developed products they bring to market.

                                                                        A name like Men.com or Band.com etc will make money day after day with 0 work. This is not the case with the above quoted names.

                                                                        By you even dropping those names into the thread it shows you do not understand the conversation.

                                                                        They may have been $15 to reg but how many $$$ were spent getting you to know who they are and to type in their names. Generic Type-in names do that for you with 0 spent on development or advertising.
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                                                                        • shuki
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                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                          • 3070

                                                                          #136
                                                                          Originally posted by DomBuyer
                                                                          People don't seem to ever get this.

                                                                          Which I guess is good, because it keeps the rif raff away from type-in names.
                                                                          Very true
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                                                                          • shuki
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                                                                            • Aug 2004
                                                                            • 3070

                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by Manowar
                                                                            Yeah, but they built their own brands.
                                                                            Exactly
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                                                                            • kenny
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                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                              • 7245

                                                                              #138
                                                                              It's not as excessive as paying some guy $20 million a year to play for your baseball team.
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                                                                              • Shags
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                                • 735

                                                                                #139
                                                                                Thats what Im saying, you can brand all you want but if you dont have the content they dont come back. And if you have the content the name doesn;t matter.
                                                                                Click Here

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                                                                                • shuki
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                  • 3070

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by kenny
                                                                                  It's not as excessive as paying some guy $20 million a year to play for your baseball team.

                                                                                  That is a whole other convo.

                                                                                  I get so mad thinking about how overpriced and greedy sports has become.
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                                                                                  • kenny
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                                                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                                                    • 7245

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    Originally posted by shuki
                                                                                    That is a whole other convo.

                                                                                    I get so mad thinking about how overpriced and greedy sports has become.

                                                                                    Not really they are buying names too.

                                                                                    And better names draw bigger gate kind of like type-ins
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                                                                                    • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                                      • 40377

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      Originally posted by Shags
                                                                                      Thats what Im saying, you can brand all you want but if you dont have the content they dont come back. And if you have the content the name doesn;t matter.
                                                                                      hehe you still don't get it

                                                                                      how much does DomBuyer work every day and how much does WiredGuy?
                                                                                      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                                      • DomBuyer
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                                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                                        • 2595

                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                                                        hehe you still don't get it

                                                                                        how much does DomBuyer work every day and how much does WiredGuy?

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