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  • Marcus
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2001
    • 3472

    #1

    I just got killed with Google adwords

    I just checked my credit card bill and was stunned, $270 for a google adwords campaign.
    I wont go into specifics but I got a lot of impressions and about 4% click throughs and $0 in sales. Not 1 sale.

    I'm just stunned here. I thought this traffic was supposed to be gold. Ive done better on tgp traffic.
  • WiredGuy
    Pounding Googlebot
    • Aug 2002
    • 34512

    #2
    Expect to lose money in the beginning with adwords. I burnt through $1k before I was able to make a positive ROI. It does have a learning curve.
    WG
    I play with Google.

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    • Furious_Male
      Doing the grind since 99
      • Oct 2003
      • 16884

      #3
      Welcome to the club. Tweak and try again.
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      • Marcus
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2001
        • 3472

        #4
        Originally posted by WiredGuy
        Expect to lose money in the beginning with adwords. I burnt through $1k before I was able to make a positive ROI. It does have a learning curve.
        WG
        why would it work after $1k but not before that?
        Are you tweaking the ad along the way, or just leaving it there and waiting?

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        • WiredGuy
          Pounding Googlebot
          • Aug 2002
          • 34512

          #5
          Originally posted by Marcus
          why would it work after $1k but not before that?
          Are you tweaking the ad along the way, or just leaving it there and waiting?
          Constantly tweaking.
          WG
          I play with Google.

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          • polish_aristocrat
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jul 2002
            • 40377

            #6
            the problem with adwords is the small volume

            ( unless you set up 500 campaigns for mini niches like WG probably does )
            I don't use ICQ anymore.

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            • Tipsy
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2001
              • 6989

              #7
              If it helps at all generic terms such as 'porn' 'sex' etc are usually way overpriced and convert like shit. Think niche and specific and LOTS of them.
              Ignorance is never bliss.

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              • Marcus
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2001
                • 3472

                #8
                Originally posted by WiredGuy
                Constantly tweaking.
                WG
                thanks
                Do you do any ad campaign consulting?
                if you do im icq 286374524
                Im not going to fly blind on this anymore, its frustrating as well as budget busting.

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                • bigdog
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 6964

                  #9
                  wiredguy what is an acceptable ROI for you?

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                  • Marcus
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 3472

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Tipsy
                    If it helps at all generic terms such as 'porn' 'sex' etc are usually way overpriced and convert like shit. Think niche and specific and LOTS of them.
                    I'm using a very specific microniche, and 12 terms for it too.

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                    • WiredGuy
                      Pounding Googlebot
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 34512

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Marcus
                      thanks
                      Do you do any ad campaign consulting?
                      if you do im icq 286374524
                      Im not going to fly blind on this anymore, its frustrating as well as budget busting.
                      Nah, I tend to keep how to make money to myself
                      WG
                      I play with Google.

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                      • WiredGuy
                        Pounding Googlebot
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 34512

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bigdog
                        wiredguy what is an acceptable ROI for you?
                        Anything positive is good. Adwords is one of the lower ROI engines out there lately for me though unless we're looking at micro-niches. But for something generic, something in the area of 15% is descent.

                        WG
                        I play with Google.

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                        • Furious_Male
                          Doing the grind since 99
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 16884

                          #13
                          Originally posted by WiredGuy
                          Nah, I tend to keep how to make money to myself
                          WG
                          Fucking Selfish.
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                          • Thrawn$
                            Confirmed User
                            • Apr 2002
                            • 4596

                            #14
                            Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                            the problem with adwords is the small volume

                            ( unless you set up 500 campaigns for mini niches like WG probably does )

                            I think if you put a higher daily budget for the campain, your ADs will be displayed more
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                            • Nismo
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2002
                              • 4977

                              #15
                              I burnt through about $700 before I really learned how to make money using adwords. It definately takes a while (and money) to learn the system and make a ROI.
                              i buy massive xxx dating traffic.

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                              • Tipsy
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2001
                                • 6989

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Marcus
                                I'm using a very specific microniche, and 12 terms for it too.
                                Landing page/sponsor may be worth looking at too then.

                                If the terms are that 'specific' it can be tough to run up that sort of bill for very targetted terms unless it was over a long period of time. The bill seemed to indicate a bigger term or two. Anyways - have fun tweaking if you decide to keep trying
                                Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                • Marcus
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 3472

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Nismo
                                  I burnt through about $700 before I really learned how to make money using adwords. It definately takes a while (and money) to learn the system and make a ROI.

                                  But once you have a good text and its making money, do you have to keep tweaking or is that it, you just keep adding money to your balence and forget it?

                                  I have some ads on tgps that I never change and they keep making money. and Im trying to do something like that with paid search engine placements

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                                  • Snake Doctor
                                    I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                    • Mar 2001
                                    • 13449

                                    #18
                                    What I find odd about google adwords traffic is that while it converts better (sales ratio wise) the retention was horrible.

                                    Traffic from my TGP galleries converted from trial to monthly at better than twice the rate that the google traffic converted.

                                    Go figure.
                                    sig too big

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                                    • Marcus
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 3472

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Tipsy
                                      Landing page/sponsor may be worth looking at too then.

                                      If the terms are that 'specific' it can be tough to run up that sort of bill for very targetted terms unless it was over a long period of time. The bill seemed to indicate a bigger term or two. Anyways - have fun tweaking if you decide to keep trying
                                      Alright ill keep tyrying.
                                      The searches are very specific, like red head granny or big cock latino.
                                      Theres no doubt what people are looking for, lol

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                                      • chowda
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jun 2003
                                        • 9527

                                        #20
                                        ive been positive ever since i started with adwords.

                                        maybe 1 or two campaigns where i had cost=payout. but those eventually stopped.

                                        maybe it might help to turn off the network content for google if u dont think its doing well.

                                        You can get some nice findwhat results.. i publish them and let me tell ya, they get great exposure
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                                        • Nismo
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2002
                                          • 4977

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Marcus
                                          But once you have a good text and its making money, do you have to keep tweaking or is that it, you just keep adding money to your balence and forget it?
                                          I do, but it might be because of what I promote. There's really too many factors for me to answer that question with a single answer. I'll just say practice makes perfect. Old cliche, but it's true. I'm still tweaking my ads and keywords on a daily basis.
                                          i buy massive xxx dating traffic.

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                                          • WiredGuy
                                            Pounding Googlebot
                                            • Aug 2002
                                            • 34512

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Furious_Male
                                            Fucking Selfish.
                                            hehehhee
                                            WG
                                            I play with Google.

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                                            • PhotoGreggXXX
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2003
                                              • 1616

                                              #23
                                              wow must have got lucky, but then again our sites our very niche specific
                                              spent $1235 this month so far and return on signups, $1944
                                              our retention is good so I'll keep flipping the $$$

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                                              • latinasojourn
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Oct 2003
                                                • 3191

                                                #24
                                                yes, adwords never paid for me.

                                                and then you always have to deal with the google folks who want you to do your site and description a certain way.

                                                i spent big loot with them, won't do it again.

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                                                • Sosa
                                                  In Tushy Land
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 40149

                                                  #25
                                                  I didn't have luck and didn't have the patience to stick with it and keep tweaking stuff.

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                                                  • Mutt
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 34431

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Marcus
                                                    I just checked my credit card bill and was stunned, $270 for a google adwords campaign.
                                                    I wont go into specifics but I got a lot of impressions and about 4% click throughs and $0 in sales. Not 1 sale.
                                                    Why didn't you stop the campaign then? You only pay for clicks with AdWords not impressions.

                                                    We tweaked Ashley's campaign today and impressions are WAY up, over 1,000
                                                    by the end of the day or more - click through rate isn't good now, 3% - problem is she can't remember what the last text ad that was that was doing 14% click through and neither can I. doh!
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                                                    • sonofsam
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                      • 18641

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by PhotoGreggXXX
                                                      wow must have got lucky, but then again our sites our very niche specific
                                                      spent $1235 this month so far and return on signups, $1944
                                                      our retention is good so I'll keep flipping the $$$
                                                      even if it wasn't good at retaining, you're still making 709 proffit off every 1235 you invest...
                                                      I like turtles.

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                                                      • media
                                                        Confirmed Moneymaker
                                                        • Apr 2002
                                                        • 9853

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Furious_Male
                                                        Fucking Selfish.
                                                        More like fucking smart.. I know you were just breaking his balls, but Charles is smart.. Alot of people you cannot trust with trade secrets..

                                                        Before you know it his source of income is gone cuz some blabermouth decides to tell his friends etc etc...
                                                        I'm here for the violence!

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                                                        • bigdog
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 6964

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Mutt
                                                          Why didn't you stop the campaign then? You only pay for clicks with AdWords not impressions.

                                                          We tweaked Ashley's campaign today and impressions are WAY up, over 1,000
                                                          by the end of the day or more - click through rate isn't good now, 3% - problem is she can't remember what the last text ad that was that was doing 14% click through and neither can I. doh!
                                                          how are sales?

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                                                          • PhotoGreggXXX
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • May 2003
                                                            • 1616

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by sonofsam
                                                            even if it wasn't good at retaining, you're still making 709 proffit off every 1235 you invest...
                                                            yep, retention is breaking the rules of the norm...must be my exclusive niche related content on the sites

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                                                            • Mutt
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                              • 34431

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by bigdog
                                                              how are sales?
                                                              off AdWords? too soon to tell, one signup - about 100 clicks delivered so far. now that the impressions are up if the CTR goes up it would be well worth it. but not enough traffic yet to really tell much.
                                                              I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                                                              • Marcus
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                • 3472

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                Why didn't you stop the campaign then? You only pay for clicks with AdWords not impressions.

                                                                We tweaked Ashley's campaign today and impressions are WAY up, over 1,000
                                                                by the end of the day or more - click through rate isn't good now, 3% - problem is she can't remember what the last text ad that was that was doing 14% click through and neither can I. doh!
                                                                a very nice experienced person is messaging me now and giving me a hand, so im going to give it another go.

                                                                Yeah, theres nothing worse than having a good ad and forgetting exactly how you worded it.

                                                                thanks for the help everyone.

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                                                                • bdld
                                                                  $100,000
                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                  • 11452

                                                                  #33
                                                                  this is where having a marketing background is really needed, every word in the ad has to be carefully constructed and then edited depending on the results constantly. i've seen many a competitor come and go throughout the last couple of yrs.

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                                                                  • V_RocKs
                                                                    Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                    • 32447

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Rule #1 - If you can't get the clicks for 5 cents, don't waste your time.
                                                                    Rule #2 - If you can't be atleast #2 for 5 cents, don't waste your money.
                                                                    Rule #3 - Don't ever forget rule #1 or #2.

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                                                                    • V_RocKs
                                                                      Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                      • 32447

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I make more money in a day on ads with only 50 clicks or less per day then most people make in a week. Follow the rules.

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                                                                      • Pimp Dough

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                        Why didn't you stop the campaign then? You only pay for clicks with AdWords not impressions.

                                                                        We tweaked Ashley's campaign today and impressions are WAY up, over 1,000
                                                                        by the end of the day or more - click through rate isn't good now, 3% - problem is she can't remember what the last text ad that was that was doing 14% click through and neither can I. doh!
                                                                        There is a history of ads you can search through there... not sure why you wouldn't ever think of that.

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                                                                        • Ca$h
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jan 2005
                                                                          • 495

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                          Why didn't you stop the campaign then? You only pay for clicks with AdWords not impressions.

                                                                          We tweaked Ashley's campaign today and impressions are WAY up, over 1,000
                                                                          by the end of the day or more - click through rate isn't good now, 3% - problem is she can't remember what the last text ad that was that was doing 14% click through and neither can I. doh!
                                                                          mutt, you can see the old ad, just:
                                                                          1. display the stats for all time
                                                                          2. then mark the option "Include deleted items that were active in this date range"
                                                                          3. scroll down to see your old ads
                                                                          $oIo$

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                                                                          • Rich
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                                            • 11486

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                            Rule #1 - If you can't get the clicks for 5 cents, don't waste your time.
                                                                            Rule #2 - If you can't be atleast #2 for 5 cents, don't waste your money.
                                                                            Rule #3 - Don't ever forget rule #1 or #2.
                                                                            You should specify, for adult. I realize that this is an adult board but some people may be doing campaigns for casinos, pharmacies, etc, where things are different. Good advice though, that's about what I look for also with my adult campaigns.

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                                                                            • imafuckingaussie
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                              • 1497

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Mmmmmm, I've gone through thousands over the last couple of years. I will give it a break and then try again with a different product/sponsor. Couple of times I made a profit, but overall I would be well and truly in the red. Tried changing wording, keywords, bid amounts, products. Guess its not my thing lol. Good replacement for poker machines though, one day I might make a profit there.

                                                                              You can get it ploughing a paddock, you can get it makin some porn sites, matter of fact I've got it now.

                                                                              For a hard earned thrist, you need a big cold beer.

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                                                                              • BlueQuartz
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • May 2004
                                                                                • 1971

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Marcus
                                                                                I just checked my credit card bill and was stunned, $270 for a google adwords campaign.
                                                                                I wont go into specifics but I got a lot of impressions and about 4% click throughs and $0 in sales. Not 1 sale.

                                                                                I'm just stunned here. I thought this traffic was supposed to be gold. Ive done better on tgp traffic.
                                                                                this sort of post from someone who has been in the biz for 4 years LOL

                                                                                looks like you were scammed son

                                                                                google is actually really shit resold chinese traffic and tgp is the gold you are looking for

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                                                                                • imafuckingaussie
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                  • 1497

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by bdld
                                                                                  this is where having a marketing background is really needed, every word in the ad has to be carefully constructed and then edited depending on the results constantly. i've seen many a competitor come and go throughout the last couple of yrs.
                                                                                  Yes, I think your 100% correct. Every word is crucial and probably my big downfall, that and not taking much notice of how much per click I'm paying. I used to just make sure I was #1 or close to it and that obviously was costing me too much!

                                                                                  You can get it ploughing a paddock, you can get it makin some porn sites, matter of fact I've got it now.

                                                                                  For a hard earned thrist, you need a big cold beer.

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                                                                                  • Dirty F
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                    • 59204

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    My first tries with adwords were horrible...after doing a lot of campaings that cost me money i finally found something perfect making me very easy money with a 30% ctr.

                                                                                    But google refuses to give me any clicks for it anymore :/

                                                                                    I started with over 1k clicks in a day...now im at 50 clicks or so costing me 3 bucks whatever while my budget for the campaign is 120 bucks.

                                                                                    It really pisses me off.

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                                                                                    • VeriSexy
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                                                                                      • 25463

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Yeah better go after small niches...... Sex and Porn keywords will kill you unless you have experience
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                                                                                      • Rich
                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                                                        • 11486

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Franck
                                                                                        My first tries with adwords were horrible...after doing a lot of campaings that cost me money i finally found something perfect making me very easy money with a 30% ctr.

                                                                                        But google refuses to give me any clicks for it anymore :/
                                                                                        They frown on bestiality.

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                                                                                        • Rich
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                          • 11486

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by VeriSexy
                                                                                          Yeah better go after small niches...... Sex and Porn keywords will kill you unless you have experience
                                                                                          For some reason they won't sell adword spots for the term "sex" to adult companies. Well, I can see the reason, I just think it's stupid.

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                                                                                          • Rui
                                                                                            web
                                                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                                                            • 9533

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by BlueQuartz
                                                                                            this sort of post from someone who has been in the biz for 4 years LOL

                                                                                            looks like you were scammed son
                                                                                            Newsflash moron just because somebody is in this business for 4 years doesn't mean he already "played" with SE+ppc before...

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                                                                                            • mardigras
                                                                                              Bon temps!
                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                              • 14194

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Rich
                                                                                              For some reason they won't sell adword spots for the term "sex" to adult companies. Well, I can see the reason, I just think it's stupid.
                                                                                              If you type "sex" in Google's general search it hasn't returned adult companies for quite a while.
                                                                                              .

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                                                                                              • Furious_Male
                                                                                                Doing the grind since 99
                                                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                                                • 16884

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by media
                                                                                                More like fucking smart.. I know you were just breaking his balls, but Charles is smart.. Alot of people you cannot trust with trade secrets..

                                                                                                Before you know it his source of income is gone cuz some blabermouth decides to tell his friends etc etc...
                                                                                                Yes of course I was busting his balls. I don't blame him one bit. I have busted my ass and spent 10s of thousands of dollars myself learning the game. I don't want to share everything I know either.
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                                                                                                • chaze
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                  • 9774

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Marcus
                                                                                                  I just checked my credit card bill and was stunned, $270 for a google adwords campaign.
                                                                                                  I wont go into specifics but I got a lot of impressions and about 4% click throughs and $0 in sales. Not 1 sale.

                                                                                                  I'm just stunned here. I thought this traffic was supposed to be gold. Ive done better on tgp traffic.
                                                                                                  It's not a total loss if you learn from it

                                                                                                  The add really does make a diffrance. Also put your domain name in it so you get branding from the impressions.
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                                                                                                  • Paparazzi
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                                                                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                                                                    • 3488

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                                                                    What I find odd about google adwords traffic is that while it converts better (sales ratio wise) the retention was horrible.

                                                                                                    Traffic from my TGP galleries converted from trial to monthly at better than twice the rate that the google traffic converted.

                                                                                                    Go figure.
                                                                                                    interesting

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