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New contest rule, and 2 more coming...

04-21-2005, 01:06 PM

Thanks Stuart from NichePay and the posters for this thread:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=458243

Most of these ideas are good ones, it's a problem that has to be fixed. We need to limit the number of posts one poster can make to these threads. I hate worthless posts. There needs to be a limit as to how many contests run concurrently, and the 'whoever has the mosts posts in this thread wins' has to go.

I agree that only top advertisers should able to run contests.

So, new rule #1: No 'whoever has the mosts posts in this thread wins' contests.

Next rule: Limit on how many times and how frequently someone can post in a contest thread. What should that be? We don't need non-webmasters coming in here and taking over these contests.

Next rule: How many concurrent contests should be allowed? And how long can they last, maximum?
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04-21-2005, 01:08 PM

in my opinion no more then 3 at a time

edit: you put you agree that only top sponsors should be able to run contests... is that official?

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04-21-2005, 01:09 PM

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04-21-2005, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by Lensman

Next rule: Limit on how many times and how frequently someone can post in a contest thread. What should that be?

100 posts max. ?

Next rule: How many concurrent contests should be allowed? And how long can they last, maximum?

maximum 1 week for a contest?

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04-21-2005, 01:11 PM

Rule 1 - Good
Rule 2 - I say no more than 5 per hour or so should be good.
Rule 3 - No more than 5 threads and no more than a month

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04-21-2005, 01:11 PM

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04-21-2005, 01:11 PM

2 tops, the fuckers are always on the top, more so then stickys

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04-21-2005, 01:12 PM

My thoughts are they should only be from top advertisers, which would cut alot of 'em out. Then either have some sort of time limit or goal, so that they don't just linger forever...

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04-21-2005, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

Rule 2 - I say no more than 5 per hour or so should be good.

that would be impossible to enforce ..who would be counting how many posts each of the contest participants made in an particular hour?

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04-21-2005, 01:13 PM

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04-21-2005, 01:14 PM

What about.... This thread will be closed at 100.... the person with the most posts out of 100 wins

10% Of the overall prize per day and run it for 10 days at random times during the day

I think that would be a bit of fun.... and it wouldnt last too long (about 20 secs!)

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04-21-2005, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by Lensman

Thanks Stuart from NichePay and the posters for this thread:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=458243

Most of these ideas are good ones, it's a problem that has to be fixed. We need to limit the number of posts one poster can make to these threads. I hate worthless posts. There needs to be a limit as to how many contests run concurrently, and the 'whoever has the mosts posts in this thread wins' has to go.

I agree that only top advertisers should able to run contests.

So, new rule #1: No 'whoever has the mosts posts in this thread wins' contests.

Next rule: Limit on how many times and how frequently someone can post in a contest thread. What should that be? We don't need non-webmasters coming in here and taking over these contests.

Next rule: How many concurrent contests should be allowed? And how long can they last, maximum?

Max 3 contests at a time.
I think the rules like they are now with no consecutive posts are good with no top poster prize people won´t post like mad.

Also a good rule to weed out surfers would be that the winnings are paid into the winners account with that program and to be able to win any of the prizes the contestant must have an active account with the sponsor before the contest is over and also post an url where the program is promoted. Active could be 1 signup or 100 hits or something like that.

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04-21-2005, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by Lensman

Next rule: Limit on how many times and how frequently someone can post in a contest thread. What should that be? We don't need non-webmasters coming in here and taking over these contests.

Next rule: How many concurrent contests should be allowed? And how long can they last, maximum?

1. This is tricky, If lets say you limit them to 20 posts per person, then the contests won't go anywhere since noone can really bump it which would ruin the total purpose of it. Especially since contest prizes are generally 100-1000 prizes apart. I would say atleast a limit of 200 posts per person perhaps more

2. 2 contests at a time, perhaps limit them to running 1 week or 2 at most.
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04-21-2005, 01:17 PM

How about nobody registered in 2005 can win. Or maybe nobody with less than 2,000 posts or something like that.

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04-21-2005, 01:19 PM

I think we should have a contest....and the person with the 10,000th post in the thread gets to decide what the rules are.

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04-21-2005, 01:20 PM

Instead of a time limit, how about a post-award limit. i.e. you can't offer an award for any post about 1500, etc.

Good move Lens, gettting out of control.

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04-21-2005, 01:21 PM

i think if you make it that only top advertisers can run contests then there wont even be many contests at all, since most of them are offering a lot of money in the thread... i think some people opt to spend the money on a contest thread rather then a top spot..

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04-21-2005, 01:21 PM

One of the paris sufers advertised the gfy contests in another forum.

A bunch of lithuanian surfers are the ones posting so much.

How about banning them, they just bought domains to pretend to be webmasters, but it doesn't work.

Alot of them are the same people. They had GFY refferals before they ask how to buy a domain name.

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04-21-2005, 01:21 PM

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04-21-2005, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by Keyser Soze

Also a good rule to weed out surfers would be that the winnings are paid into the winners account with that program and to be able to win any of the prizes the contestant must have an active account with the sponsor before the contest is over and also post an url where the program is promoted. Active could be 1 signup or 100 hits or something like that.

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04-21-2005, 01:22 PM

Also, how about you have to have a original idea for a contest thread... I can think of 2or3 ways of having a contests that haven't been done yet, and that's just since Lens made this post...

Ways that would actaully attract webmasters, not just post whores

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04-21-2005, 01:23 PM

Can someone just write a script and have all contest threads within this new script?

Like a poll has certain features and limits the votes to 1 per member.

Maybe there could be a new type of thread for contests only. It only works for people within the current advertiser database. All other threads with contests that aren't going through this new "contest thread" script will be warned and then banned. This way you can make sure any of your advertisers have the ability to create a contest on the fly without having to get approval from a gfy mod while non advertisers can't do it.

Within this "contest thread" script, you can set all kinds of rules to limit the amount of posts a user makes, etc.

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04-21-2005, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by Lensman

Thanks Stuart from NichePay and the posters for this thread:
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My pleasure and I'm glad to see you're on top of this.

It's too bad really... the contests were a great thing at first but eventually got out of control.

Once it's under control and regulated more, I think they can be fun again and be a "positive" addition to the board rather than a "negative" addition.

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04-21-2005, 01:25 PM

I actually think the dammage had been done and the contests were going to slow down.

The lithuanian surfers posted so much in the last one that pussycash had to pay out a few extra thousand bucks, they havn't done one since.
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04-21-2005, 01:25 PM

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04-21-2005, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by Lensman

Thanks Stuart from NichePay and the posters for this thread:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=458243

Next rule: Limit on how many times and how frequently someone can post in a contest thread. What should that be? We don't need non-webmasters coming in here and taking over these contests.

tough one.....
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04-21-2005, 01:26 PM

Finnaly. That will at least stop fucking cheaters.
I'd say, max 100+ per person, and contests time should be at least one week (so everyone can take a chance and participate into it).

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04-21-2005, 01:26 PM

Lensman, how about also doing an escrow type service? Like, the sponsor must put the prize in your hands before it can be offered. So if a company offers 2k cash as a prize, they must prove to you or let you hold the goods before they can start the contest.

This would keep sponsors from posting contests that they cannot afford to pony up for the prizes should an affiliate or GFY Member win.

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04-21-2005, 01:27 PM

I think some of these draconian contest rules are going to violate someone's constitutional rights.

I may be forced to take legal action.
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04-21-2005, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by Johnny Cochran

I think some of these draconian contest rules are going to violate someone's constitutional rights.

I may be forced to take legal action.
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04-21-2005, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by sonofsam

i think if you make it that only top advertisers can run contests then there wont even be many contests at all, since most of them are offering a lot of money in the thread... i think some people opt to spend the money on a contest thread rather then a top spot..

Exactly.

Why should these companies get the exposure from GFY whilst Lens loses out on potential ad revenues?

Think about it, every contest thread offer $1k+ for posters, is losing Lens $1k plus per contest in exposure for his current PAID advertisers.

IMHO the rules should be as follows:

1) Only top sponsors can post contests awarding CASH prizes. (they have already PAID for ad space if they want to pay for contests to thats their decision)

2) No more than 3 contests a WEEK. This way, GFY might actually have some use to those members who are looking for help and advice in the industry without having to weed through a bunch of worthless sigwhoring threads.

3) Other companies who arent PAID sponsors can hold contests however they can only offer non cash prizes unless, they give GFY / Lens a percentage of the total cash prize offered. If they dont, they get banned.

4) No consecutive contests by anyone, for example, if TopBucks posted a contest thread today, they couldnt post another until next month.

5) Rules to change at any tme, for any reason, they dont like it, they know where the door is. Lens is running a business despite what most of the sig whores think.

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04-21-2005, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by FunForOne

One of the paris sufers advertised the gfy contests in another forum.

A bunch of lithuanian surfers are the ones posting so much.

How about banning them, they just bought domains to pretend to be webmasters, but it doesn't work.

Alot of them are the same people. They had GFY refferals before they ask how to buy a domain name.

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04-21-2005, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by Johnny Cochran

I think some of these draconian contest rules are going to violate someone's constitutional rights.

I may be forced to take legal action.

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04-21-2005, 01:33 PM

Lensman,

You should have this thread pinned!

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04-21-2005, 01:33 PM

So its the death of the design contest?

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04-21-2005, 01:34 PM

Limit on posts per thread? I'd say 25. But then what happens when someone does an ambush interview? Will they get locked out of answering their questions? I guess look at your ambush interviews and see how many the top interviewed person posted and then add 25 more to it. I know some people post as many as 500 in a contest and the ambush is probably less than 200.

Limit on who can run a contest? I think limiting it to paid advertisers is not good. It is a webmasters forum and any webmaster should be able to compete and participate. Restrictions here will stifle competition.

Number of concurrent contests? I think it should be left to descression.. Sometimes you have 10, sometimes you have 2 and sometimes none... So if it gets to 10 just before Vegas, it could be a good and needed thing. But 10 right now is over blown. I don't think setting a hard rule here is a good choice to make.

Length a contest can last? Perhaps 1 week for prizes totaling $500 or less, and 2weeks max.

Thread count? 1000 for $500 and a maximum of 3000.

Remember that with less posting, the time it takes to reach 1000 will be a lot higher. Unawarded prizes at this point would stay unawarded.
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04-21-2005, 01:35 PM

I agree that you shouldn't be able to spend 10K on a contest if you don't pay to advertise here.....its not fair to get more exposure than the people who pay to support this board.

However there are some little guys that can't afford the 3K or whatever for a banner here that want to do something small to try and generate publicity for their products or services.

There should be some middle ground in there somewhere.

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04-21-2005, 01:35 PM

Oh yeah easiest thing to cut down the posting in the contests is to do a search on silent_thunders nick and ban all the nicks that uses the same ip.

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04-21-2005, 01:36 PM

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04-21-2005, 01:36 PM

I think there shouldn't be more then 3 big contest threads at a time and there should be a limit to the # of post wins ... some of these threads have a post count that is so high that it runs for months ... I think big contests like that should be just for guys that buy advertising at least on a regular basis ... I buy ad space most months but skipped this month to run a few other things. I ran a small give away the other day asking opinions on what our next site should be (wanted to know what's selling hot right now) I knew i couldn't just ask because no one would look at it unless it said "would you hit" it or "give away" .. i gave 10k hits feeder to the 20th and the 30th post and 20k to the best reply. small like that should be ok for everyone and not really limited.

I must add that the thread never made it to 20 posts because it was crushed by these big contest and pushed off the front page in 10 mins ... on other boards i gave away traffic but here it seemed no one wanted it ..

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04-21-2005, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by spideriux

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04-21-2005, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by Lensman

I agree that only top advertisers should able to run contests.

not good business and not fair to a company thats starting out or doesnt have a big budget.

what would really work is

getting permission to do a contest.

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04-21-2005, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by Keyser Soze

Oh yeah easiest thing to cut down the posting in the contests is to do a search on silent_thunders nick and ban all the nicks that uses the same ip.

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04-21-2005, 01:38 PM

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04-21-2005, 01:39 PM

Would I earn a strike if I started a "Contest" contest?

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04-21-2005, 01:39 PM

Perhaps a 20% contest fee? If you give away cash over $300 you need to pay 20% fee to GFY for running your contest. This would allow small contests that are more of a small business to small business nature (design contests for example) to continue.
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04-21-2005, 01:41 PM

I think a rule that should be put in place is that each post in a contest thread should be related to business or atleast be useful information.
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04-21-2005, 01:42 PM

Also there are different kinds of contests

There are contests like the one that Rick Latona did with the 10K posts for 10K dollars or whatever....and then there's fun shit.

$100 for the best caption or the best photochop....shit like that is alot of fun and its what keeps GFY jumping.
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04-21-2005, 01:42 PM

I post a little in the contest threads and even I think it have gone out of control lately. What I would see as good rules for both contest whores and regular GFYers:

1. Max 3 contests at a time.
2. No consecutive posts. (easiest to enforce and its enough to slow the whoring down with no top poster prize)
3. No top poster prizes.
4. Rules to ensure its webmasters not surfers playing just like I posted above. #12
5. Max 14 days for each contest.
6. Strict enforcement on the rules.

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04-21-2005, 01:42 PM

It sickended me to see those logo design contests where the person who started the contest never called a winner or paid the cash prize and just stole the logos made.

I don't know how to stop that but an escrow service...requirement would be nice.
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