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Perfect10.. Sue, Sue, Sue, Sue, Sue
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------------------------------------------ JUDGE'S DECISION FAVORS PERFECT 10'S ATTEMPT TO RID THE INTERNET OF STOLEN IMAGES A federal judge has ruled that PERFECT 10 may sue websites not only for stealing PERFECT 10 images, but third party images on the basis of both unfair competition and RICO. Read her landmark decision here. CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR LONDON SUN/PERFECT 10 MAGAZINE WINNER, KATIE RICHMOND! NIKKALA STOTT FINISHED SECOND. CHECK OUT PERFECT 10 MODELS ASHLEY DEGENFORD, MONICA HANSEN, JENNIFER LEONE, STACY FUSON, MARA CLINCH, JESSICA ASHER, and CARLA ALAPONT on all 22 episodes of BATTLE DOME. Check your local listings for channel and time in your area. Join our FREE Yahoo club for news & information Log into Yahoo and then click here. THE INTERNET CONSPIRACY In the last few years, the amount of misappropriated content on the Internet has soared. Site after site has found that the way to drive traffic is to offer nude photos of various celebrities like Britney Spears, Jennifer Love Hewitt, and others, even though such photos don't exist. In many cases, the websites steal photos of the celebrities and then place their faces on nude bodies of other models, often engaged in explicit sexual acts. The site then either pays for advertising on a search engine or web directory like Yahoo, or inserts metatags or uses other tricks to make sure it will show up in searches. Although search engines and web directories claim that they respect intellectual property rights, the experience of PERFECT 10 Magazine has been otherwise. Whenever we have notified Yahoo! or Google about infringing and/or defamatory links, they have done little or nothing. Given the vast advertising revenues they generate from traffic to misleading and/or misappropriating sites, it is not surprising that Yahoo, Google, and others are reluctant to act. For example, Yahoo! charges adult sites $600 just to be considered for listing in their directory. Google charges for "sponsored links" which routinely show up at the top of the page when one does a search involving a young female celebrity and a term like "nude," "slut," "whore," or "porn." So searches like "Sandra Bullock Porn" are sponsored by advertising accepted by Google. The ad on Google which appears along with search results for "Sandra Bullock Porn" misappropriates the rights of publicity for numerous celebrities, and advertises such things as "Gillian Anderson - nice pussy and tits," "Barbara Streisand ? catch her swallowing huge cock," "Britney Spears? puts those lungs to good use blowing the boys!" So doing a "with-all-of-the-words" advanced Google search on "Christina" "Aguilera" and "Porn" turns up 18,000 web page matches, even though Christina Aguilera has never done porn or been photographed nude! Although Yahoo! is thought to be a search engine, it has actually become a directory, somewhat like a computerized yellow pages. A typical search on Yahoo! for nude images first results in what are, in most cases, paid listings. Once those are viewed, Yahoo! uses Google to find more web pages. A search for "Christina Aguilera" and "nude," "Jennifer Lopez" and "nude," and "Britney Spears" and "nude," on Yahoo! returns paid ads for porn sites, the first five of which are listed below. According to Yahoo!'s advertising material, it appears that each of those sites has paid Yahoo! at least $600. Yahoo! charges adult sites more than normal sites because, according to YAHOO!, "The editorial staff uses a more complicated review process for sites offering adult content and/or services, which requires more time." Furthermore, Yahoo! states "The site must not contain any content? that, in Yahoo!'s reasonable determination?.. infringe[s] or violate[s] anyone's rights, or ?. is ? offensive? " Ironically, as far as PERFECT 10 can determine, every one of the following fifteen advertised sites which passed Yahoo!'s editorial review is basically a fraud on the consumer. The domain name registrations of the owners are usually phony, the photos of the celebrities, if any, are stolen, and the nude shots of the celebrities often consist of their head on someone else's nude body. The ads are misleading and in many cases defamatory. As far as we know, Christina Aguilera, Jennifer Lopez, and Britney Spears have never been photographed nude. They also have never been photographed with cum all over their faces, or otherwise engaged in disgusting sexual acts as suggested by fake photos in Yahoo!-approved sites. Yahoo! apparently doesn't have any problem taking paid ads from people who give false names and addresses when they register their domain names. For example, Yahoo! has taken several ads from a registrant named "Coming Soon" with a phone number of 123-456-7890. Another advertiser supposedly lives on a road called "Sherwood Forest," and another has a fax number of 123-123-1234. And many of their paid advertisers admit that they don't own the content on their sites. SPONSORED YAHOO! ADS FOR CHRISTINA AGUILERA NUDE (These are the first five ads which turned up on 7/29/01 on a Yahoo! search of "Christina Aguilera" and "nude." ) 1:Christina-Aguilera-Britney-Spears-Jennifer-Lopez-Nude-Naked .com Registrant: Coming Soon, phone: 123-456-7890. Domain Server: CWIHOSTING Description: The first time we entered, initial pages had unauthorized photos of Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears, and other celebrities. The second time we entered, there were no pictures, just a signup section. Once one signs up for "join4free," or "freenetpass" (which actually can cost $49.95 a month if one doesn't cancel immediately), one basically receives nothing, and then is prompted to pay even more money to sign up for either "premiumnetpass," "rogerceleb," or "join4free gold." There are also other pay options like teensex.com, sexkey.com, karasxxx.com, mrskin.com, truecelebs.com, celebticket.com, celebxxx.com, xxxsexpixs.com, teenslutz.com and porntryout.com. Many of the sites promoted via this site are owned by the same individuals with typically phony registrations. For example Truecelebs.com, celebticket.com, and Rogerceleb all have the same phony registration address in Terneuzen, NL, with phone numbers of 000-000-0000 or numbers that don't work. They all have the same domain servers of celebnic.net, and appear to have a relationship with a billing company called Ccbill Ccbill also handled the billing of credit cards for Freenetpass, Join4free, and premiumnetpass, and seemed to also have a relationship with teenslutz and porntryout.com. Join4free is registered in Avaru, Rarotonga, Rarotonga, CK, with a phone number of 888-522-6527. Celebsxxx had an obviously misappropriated clip of Angelina Jolie bouncing around topless, along with other misappropriated celebrity photos. It also admitted that it did not own its content. Premiumnetpass led us to a bunch of misappropriated photos of Britney Spears and other celebrities. Basically, in this Yahoo!-approved site, you get charged a lot and receive either a modest amount of stolen material or junky home-made porn. And don't try to leave this site without getting barraged with never ending pop-ups. 2: Anna Kournikova Nude & Christina Aguilera Naked (xxxlink.net) Registrant: Allegedly Norwegian, no phone or e-mail. Domain Server: VDI.net. Description: After entering a Netverfier Password (which you have to pay for), you get unauthorized photos of Anna Kournikova, Jennifer Aniston, and Christina Aguilera, with a few shots of Christina Aguilera's face on someone else's nude body engaged in sex. 3: Christina Aguilera Nude (usbharddrives.com/Christina.htm) Registrant: Derek Fingleson Domain Server: California.net, Oakweb.com. Description: After entering an Adult Check password, one finds unauthorized pictures of Christina Aguilera, some with her face on other peoples' naked bodies. 4: Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera Nude (britney-spears-and-christina-aguilera-nude.com) Registrant: Alex Blaze Domain Server: California.net, Oakweb.com. Description: After entering a Sex Key password, one sees a number of misappropriated shots of the faces of Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera on various nude bodies. 5: !-Britney-Spears-Carmen-Electra-Christina-Aguilera- Lopez (pics-britney-spears-nude-jennifer-lopez-naked.com) Registrant: Coming Soon. Phone: 123-456-7890 Domain Server: CWIHOSTING. Description: The first time we entered, there were unauthorized photos of Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, and others. The second time we entered, the site was basically the same as in 1, although the ads in some cases looked different. SPONSORED YAHOO! ADS FOR JENNIFER LOPEZ NUDE 6: Jennifer-Lopez-Anna-Kournikova-Denise-Richards- Naked-Nude.com Registrant: Coming Soon. Phone: 123-456-7890. Description: Basically the same scam as 1 and 5, with free offers that aren't free, never ending pop-ups, some stolen photos and a bunch of junk. 7: Christina-Aguilera-Britney-Spears-Jennifer-Lopez- Nude-Naked.com Registrant: coming soon. Phone: 123-456-7890. Description: Same as 1, 5, and 6. 8: Jennifer Lopez Nude and Salma Hayek naked (Jennifer-lopez-nude.net) Registered to ptrmedia. Address: ptr, longbeach, BVI, none 0001 IO Domain Server: CWIHOSTING Description: After entering a netverifier password, one sees stolen real photos of Jennifer Lopez and Salma Hayek. 9: ! Carmen Electra & Jennifer Lopez Nude (Exclamation-Carmen-Electra-and Jennifer-Lopez-nude.com) Registrant: Alex Blaze Domain Servers: California.net, Oakweb.com Description: Requires Sexkey pass. Unauthorized photos of Carmen Electra and Jennifer Lopez, often superimposed on the nude bodies of others. 10: Free Nude Pics of Jennifer Lopez (free-nude-pics-of-jennifer-lopez.com) Registrant: Derek Scott Domain server: pornbuilder.com Description: After viewing a few non-nude stolen shots of Jennifer Lopez, the viewer is prompted to celebticket.com, truecelebs.com, and rogerceleb.com, the same pay sites with phony registrations mentioned in 1. All contain misappropriated shots of Britney Spears and other celebrities. SPONSORED YAHOO! ADS FOR BRITNEY SPEARS AND NUDE 11: Britney Spears Nude (Britney-spears-nude.net) Registered owner: Nicolas Dion. Domain server: Dynamichosting.com. Description: 400 unauthorized shots of Britney Spears' face superimposed on other person's naked bodies, often engaged in sex. Links to truecelebs.com, which was mentioned in 1. Discloses that it does not own its content. 12: Britney Spears Nude Naked Free Pics (britney-spears-nude-naked-free-pics.com) Registrant: Derek Scott Domain server: pornbuilder.com Description: At least 25 unauthorized non-naked photos of Britney Spears.. Quotes: "Are you dying to see Britney Spears Nude? Do you want to see her fine pussy and sweet ass and beautiful tits?" Most if not all of the links are to celebticket.com and truecelebs.com, both pay sites, with the same phony registration address and phone number 000-000-0000 as mentioned in 1. 13: Anna Kournikova & Britney Spears Nude (anna-kournikova-and-britney-spears-nude.com) Registrant: Zoron, inc., with a street address of "Sherwood Forest" and a fax of 123 123 1234. Domain Server: zoron.net. Description: Unauthorized photos of Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears, and other celebrities. Quotes: "Britney's Blowjob Video," "Aguilera's P*ssy Slip, Christina accidentally shows us her sexy shaved bush while on stage." Links to truecelebs.com, the same pay site with a phony registration as in 12. 14: Nude Britney Spears (nude-britney-spears.net) Same as 11. 15: Britney Spears Nude Naked Pictures (britney-spears-nude-naked-pictures.com) Registrant: Derek Fingleson Domain servers: California.net, Oakweb.com. Description: Requites Adult Check pass. About 70 unauthorized photos of Britney Spears, with the nude ones being fakes. The above ads represent a small portion of the total number of "Celebrity Porn" sites which advertise on Yahoo! For example, there are 241 paid "Celebrity Nude" Yahoo! advertisers. It appears that most if not all of the celebrity porn Yahoo! advertisers have misappropriated material. Many openly acknowledge that they do not own the rights to their material Although PERFECT 10 has faxed declarations to both Yahoo! and Google from various entertainers stating that they have never been photographed nude and have never authorized porn sites to use their name or photos, both Yahoo! and Google continue to take paid advertising from sites that misappropriate those entertainers' names and images. OTHER BIG PLAYERS In other to make money from their stolen content, misappropriating websites generally work with either an AVS ("Adult Verification Service") like Adult Check, Netverifier, Sex Key, Premiumnetpass, and others, or a billing company like Ibill or Ccbill who basically cash credit cards for sites and then keep a percentage of the gross. Typically AVS's make at least 40% of the gross while billing companies make around 15%. The AVS's who are unwilling to work with misappropriated content are currently at a big disadvantage because the best content is stolen. The typical B.S. from an AVS or billing company who knowingly works with sites with stolen content is something like: "Tell us which images of yours our sites have stolen and we will get them to take them off." That is like saying, "tell us what merchandise our associates have taken of yours and we will make them return it but continue to let them steal from others." WHY CELEBRITIES HAVE TROUBLE ENFORCING THEIR RIGHTS Although Lin Milano (owner of cybertrackers, 818-501-6643) has been successful in suing various porn sites on behalf of her daughter Alyssa Milano (who owns the copyright for many of her photos), most celebrities do not own the copyrights to their photographs. So they can normally only sue for "rights of publicity," which basically means that they can prevent porn sites from using their name or images for commercial gain but cannot sue them for copyright infringement. Celebrities have been reluctant to enforce their rights because a) they are afraid of potentially negative publicity from a lawsuit, b) the damages for rights of publicity violations are smaller, and c) many porn sites have dummy registrations, are out of the U.S., or don't have any money. PERFECT 10's LITIGATION PERFECT 10 has sued the largest AVS and will be suing the second largest AVS shortly. Assuming some success on that front, we will then be taking on the billing companies who continue to work with sites that steal content. An important part of our case is a claim for unfair competition. Because each photo we publish costs us about $10,000 to produce ($25,000,000/2,500 photos), we can't compete with sites that get their content for free by stealing it, whether it belongs to PERFECT 10 or not. If we win on unfair competition, we will basically be able to prevent competitors from stealing celebrity images as well as our images. If we fail, then a large number of celebrities and/or photographers will have to join forces to stop the massive infringement that is taking place. This would be a daunting task because of the hundreds of copyright holders worldwide. An artilce about PERFECT 10's war against the massive theft of images on the internet will be in the September 3rd issue of Forbes and on Forbes.com August 30th. Also check out the following article which will be in the next issue of PERFECT10. ------------------------------------------ OH NO ! GFY has a traffic cash banner post. Your sued.. your all sued.. everyone is sued, sued, sued, sued !!! |
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I thought i was going to see some hot chick named Sue.
![]() good!! i bet 50% of all internet porn is stolen images. i would like to go around busting people that are using it. just think if something ever happens about all the pic theft, honest webmasters profits will go sky high. ------------------ Webcam/Amateur Traffic |
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The second time we entered, there were no pictures, just a
signup section. Once one signs up for "join4free," or "freenetpass" (which actually can cost $49.95 a month if one doesn't cancel immediately), one basically receives nothing, and then is prompted to pay even more money to sign up for either "premiumnetpass," "rogerceleb," or "join4free gold." There are also other pay options like teensex.com, sexkey.com, karasxxx.com, mrskin.com, truecelebs.com, celebticket.com, celebxxx.com, xxxsexpixs.com, teenslutz.com and porntryout.com. dam $50 bucks a month for join4free? |
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congrats to perfect 10
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This thread is a horrible disappointement!
I really thought I'd see a 'perfect 10 girl named sue' No matter how hard I stared at the letters I could make anything out. This is one of them 3d-spot things right? You know the one you must stare like to make out a shape? ![]() ------------------ TeenMafia.com Offshore Clicks - 3c per blind click. .:::Spamming is fun:::. |
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Oh Great.. APIC#2.. another company trying to speak for ALL copyright holders to EVERYTHING worldwide..
![]() So they are going to sue globill, ccbill, ibill, all sites and AVS because they produce 'unfair' competition? BUAHAH That's like a candy makes sueing another candy makes who sells more candy (stole from god knows where) at cheaper prices. Give me a break ------------------ ADULTBOUNCER AVS! * FREE Unlimited Hosting (ANY SIZE VIDEOS ALLOWED!) * Free Premium Unique Video Content * Partner Programs to resell your AVS site * Recurring By-Monthly Payouts * Multiple Billers GET STARTED NOW! |
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So doing a "with-all-of-the-words" advanced Google search on
"Christina" "Aguilera" and "Porn" turns up 18,000 web page matches, even though Christina Aguilera has never done porn or been photographed nude! Although Yahoo! is thought to be a search engine, it has actually become a directory, somewhat like a computerized yellow pages. A typical search on Yahoo! for nude images first results in what are, in most cases, paid listings. Once those are viewed, Yahoo! uses Google to find more web pages. A search for "Christina Aguilera" and "nude," "Jennifer Lopez" and "nude," and "Britney Spears" and "nude," on Yahoo! returns paid ads for porn sites, the first five of which are listed below. According to Yahoo!'s advertising material, it appears that each of those sites has paid Yahoo! at least $600. Yahoo! charges adult sites more than normal sites because, according to YAHOO!, "The editorial staff uses a more complicated review process for sites offering adult content and/or services, which requires more time." Furthermore, Yahoo! states "The site must not contain any content? that, in Yahoo!'s reasonable determination?.. infringe[s] or violate[s] anyone's rights, or ?. is ? offensive? " Ironically, as far as PERFECT 10 can determine, every one of the following fifteen advertised sites which passed Yahoo!'s editorial review is basically a fraud on the consumer. The domain name registrations of the owners are usually phony, the photos of the celebrities, if any, are stolen, and the nude shots of the celebrities often consist of their head on someone else's nude body. The ads are misleading and in many cases defamatory. As far as we know, Christina Aguilera, Jennifer Lopez, and Britney Spears have never been photographed nude. They also have never been photographed with cum all over their faces, or otherwise engaged in disgusting sexual acts as suggested by fake photos in Yahoo!-approved sites. Yahoo! apparently doesn't have any problem taking paid ads from people who give false names and addresses when they register their domain names. For example, Yahoo! has taken several ads from a registrant named "Coming Soon" with a phone number of 123-456-7890. Another advertiser supposedly lives on a road called "Sherwood Forest," and another has a fax number of 123-123-1234. And many of their paid advertisers admit that they don't own the content on their sites. SPONSORED YAHOO! ADS FOR CHRISTINA AGUILERA NUDE (These are the first five ads which turned up on 7/29/01 on a Yahoo! search of "Christina Aguilera" and "nude." ) they should be accountable for shit like that...... ------------------ Webcam/Amateur Traffic |
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Interesting arguement, "unfair competition", it's see if it sticks.
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Enforcing copyright means the loss of:
Newsgroups Celeb sites Celeb fan sites Warez Mp3 Password Sites Lyrics Sites ..and many more I dont like people stealing my pics either.. But, remove all the stuff above and the net is pretty fucking lame. I dont think people will keep buying $1000.00 computers and paying $50.00 per month just so they can go to perfect10.com. When Napster was shut down alot of traffic dissapeared. MANY people were on the net just for Napster. Im not defending it but ya see what Im driving at ? When the net becomes old news and surfers arent as interested who ya gonna sue then ? |
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people can still post to news groups if they own the content, same goes for most of the rest... Celeb sites Celeb fan sites Lyrics Sites |
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i say again, congrats to perfect 10
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赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111
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Damn, did anyone notice how many of those sites were hosted by Oakweb?
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"each photo we publish costs us about $10,000 to produce"
!@#$ Did they add a zero by mistake? I could believe a thousand, but ten?? |
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You dont see my point, you think Im defending them but Im not. |
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Yes that IS me. Bitch.
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They're on crack!!
Suing a competitor because the competitor is paying for a Yahoo listing and gets better traffic because they have fakes &/ or stolen content.. I'm pretty fucking disappointed that my fakes sites were not mentioned..After all, I do have a #8 listing at google..& I also use Sexkey AVS.. Hmmm.. Maybe I wasn't listed because the FIRST thing surfer sees is .."SO & so has never posed nude, the images within this site are fakes produced with image editing & manipulation & are NOT REAL images of so & so celebrity"..My top 5 listing is also one that was NOT paid for.. I feel left out.. ![]() Let them come after me & try suing me ![]() My #8 spot was not paid for & was earned via keywords, meta tags, SE optimization..If I get better traffic than perfect 10, it is because they lack SE optimization skills ![]() Let them sue me..My content was not stolen & there are no deceptive practices.. I used sexkey too..Let perfect10 sue me,,, I think I made a total of $360.00 from sexkey for one site & $520.00 from another.. The production of celebrity fakes is a constitutionally protected activity or medium due to the fact that this is many times considered as criticism & /or parody.. As far as perfect 10 suing for stolen content..That's perfectly good..However, when perfect 10 says they're gonna sue joe blow cuz joe blow stole Aaron Matthews pics, then I think Perfect10 has their head up they're fucking ass!!! [This message has been edited by spacedog (edited 01-10-2002).] |
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Always good when illegal content gets taken off the net.
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I subscribe to Perfect 10.
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photo shoots can cost $10,000++ per shoot if you are a high roller
![]() ie. hireing exclusive models, makeup artists, cameraman, etc. it all adds up quick ------------------ Free Adult Hosting! No header Advertising! |
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Flawed 4 .. lol ...
Theres alot of aspects to this that annoy me. One is that its all about money and has nothing to do with p10 wanting to help celebs. One sentence is about their content and the other 50 paragraphs are about their right to sue trafficcash. Keep in mind fellow porn peddlers that the attorney general is gearing up for a massive anti-porn campaign. Just because you paid for your porn doesnt mean its legal. P10 makes mention of the fact that their website has pics they couldnt put in their magazine. The laws for obscenity do not vary from a magazine to the net. We could all be on the other side of the fence this year. We should all put our cash together and buy Antigua and Barbuda ![]() |
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