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Old 04-20-2005, 11:15 AM   #51
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No worries, it's GFY and I don't take anything personal. I've understood your point from the beginning and I agree that webmasters should be informed. The information I've provided and keep providing states that they're doing business with me and with David Koenig. Not will IBD and especially NOT with Ibill. What Ibill has done to webmasters had definitely had a negative impact. However, it appears that Ibill's new owner is making an attempt to clean up the mess. To me, that's a class act if it follows through. Even if it doesn't I'm not going to blame IBD because Ibill had their problems lined up way before anyone heard of IBD. Again, IBD is an investment firm getting into the adult game. Would you turn down money from IBD to improve your program? Like I said before, I welcome anyone to give me a call if they have any questions regarding XTV. David and I come from a long history of running successful companies, making webmasters millions of dollars, and are one of the few remaining honest people in this business. That isn't going to change.

this is a good post man, I wish you would have explained it like this earlier.


edit: 51 something or anothers, im not even sure anymore
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Old 04-20-2005, 11:17 AM   #52
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im out, going fishing for the rest of the day. If anyone has ANY information on the US revshare payouts please post below. Thanks
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Old 04-20-2005, 11:23 AM   #53
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No worries, it's GFY and I don't take anything personal. I've understood your point from the beginning and I agree that webmasters should be informed. The information I've provided and keep providing states that they're doing business with me and with David Koenig. Not will IBD and especially NOT with Ibill. What Ibill has done to webmasters had definitely had a negative impact. However, it appears that Ibill's new owner is making an attempt to clean up the mess. To me, that's a class act if it follows through. Even if it doesn't I'm not going to blame IBD because Ibill had their problems lined up way before anyone heard of IBD. Again, IBD is an investment firm getting into the adult game. Would you turn down money from IBD to improve your program? Like I said before, I welcome anyone to give me a call if they have any questions regarding XTV. David and I come from a long history of running successful companies, making webmasters millions of dollars, and are one of the few remaining honest people in this business. That isn't going to change.
I don't question you or David's integrity and hell no, I wouldn't turn down investment money from IBD.

However, accepting investment money from IBD, and giving them ownership in your company, indeed does mean that when they do business with you they are doing business with IBD. If XTV profits, and I hope you all do, IBD profits.

I won't even begin to get into IBD and the role they played in what happened and is happening at iBill. I'm not sure if you truly understand who IBD is, but I do, and they definitely share blame in the demise of iBill.
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Old 04-20-2005, 11:28 AM   #54
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Sherie,

I am not trying to tarnish anyone's reputation, just clarifying a fact that has been denied over and over agian. Now that the truth is finally out, and finally admitted to, the point is moot.

IBD (owner of iBill) owns a significant, 25% strategic stake in XTV. Thats all I ever claimed and the only point I wanted to make. Now that its out, let people decided for themselves, based on the facts, who they wish to do business with.
I'm sorry, but comments like this "Maybe if they make enough money with XTV, revsharers will get paid out????" and others similiar to this can tarnish a companies reputation. I'm not quite sure how you don't see that.

Regardless, yes, the truth is out there and has always been out there, nobody was denying it. We were not 100% sure of what was going to happen with IBD, so we certainly were not about to back up your claims at that point in time. There is nothing to hide, XTV is it's own program and the only people we owe anything to are our webmasters and other affiliates, we are not going to sit idley by while being slammed and have others insinuate the goings on. I'm glad you are happy with the answers that you got, now perhaps we can all go about our daily business and I would imagine that you will not be hoping in every IBILL thread to talk about XTV.?. Have a great day =)
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Old 04-20-2005, 11:44 AM   #55
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I'm sorry, but comments like this "Maybe if they make enough money with XTV, revsharers will get paid out????" and others similiar to this can tarnish a companies reputation. I'm not quite sure how you don't see that.

Regardless, yes, the truth is out there and has always been out there, nobody was denying it. We were not 100% sure of what was going to happen with IBD, so we certainly were not about to back up your claims at that point in time. There is nothing to hide, XTV is it's own program and the only people we owe anything to are our webmasters and other affiliates, we are not going to sit idley by while being slammed and have others insinuate the goings on. I'm glad you are happy with the answers that you got, now perhaps we can all go about our daily business and I would imagine that you will not be hoping in every IBILL thread to talk about XTV.?. Have a great day =)
I won't be jumping in every iBill thread. However, I do want everyone to understand the details of who they are doing business with when they do business with XTV and I will continue to educate webmasters.
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Old 04-20-2005, 12:09 PM   #56
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I won't be jumping in every iBill thread. However, I do want everyone to understand the details of who they are doing business with when they do business with XTV and I will continue to educate webmasters.
LOL The GFY Caped Crusader. Get all of your facts straight and do a tutorial somewhere and educate that way. Going back and forth on a board where I would say a good portion do not care to understand what's go in is lame, it just seems as tho you got something to prove or gain. You want to try to fuck XTV over before it even gains ground, go ahead and try, just remember, what comes around goes around.

Anyway, I have work to do again have a great day!
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Old 04-20-2005, 12:26 PM   #57
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LOL The GFY Caped Crusader. Get all of your facts straight and do a tutorial somewhere and educate that way. Going back and forth on a board where I would say a good portion do not care to understand what's go in is lame, it just seems as tho you got something to prove or gain. You want to try to fuck XTV over before it even gains ground, go ahead and try, just remember, what comes around goes around.

Anyway, I have work to do again have a great day!
I have no interest in fucking XTV or anyone. Please hit me up on ICQ as I would like some clarification from you on the facts I don't have straight and agree this isn't the forum. I do think I could enlighten you a little bit though.

It's all good Sherie, and I wish you nothing but success and proseperity. You all have a great product and I think it will be a hit.
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