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Old 04-16-2005, 09:49 PM   #1
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The Illuminati - Do you beleive in it?

i saw this ppv movie called angels and deamons revealed, about the illuminati(freakin awesome btw)..i had heard of them but never really knew what it was all about.

To make a long story short,

-they were apparently behind the deaths of 3 popes

-behind the shooting of JPII(they show proof of this)

-have had a priest of their own in the vatican in hopes of getting some control (since the church reaches such a wide audience[they actually had video footage of the crooked priest to proove that point])

-have their official logo (the all seing eye, found in the back of the us dollar bill) imprinted in KGB documents (its printed in the period at the end of the last sentence, needs to be maganafied 10x to see it)

-have members in the cia, KGB, governments, banks arounnd the world, ect, ect , ect..

These are just a few of the things they have been involved in, theres a lot more but the video i saw realy only targetted on the illuminati and their attempt to gain some control on the vatican. Eventually the goal is to achieve 1 government to have complete control of the world.

if you cant catch the documentary on ppv, then you can probably download it with bittorrent.
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I saw the video. Alot of it seemed like setup shit...especially the meeting in russia, looked a little "too good" for amateur film-men with hidden camera's
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i'm pretty sure they exist, or at least, already existed...

Do I believe everything in Angel&Demons (a very good FICTION book), No...
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i saw this ppv movie called angels and deamons revealed, about the illuminati(freakin awesome btw)..i had heard of them but never really knew what it was all about.

To make a long story short,

-they were apparently behind the deaths of 3 popes

-behind the shooting of JPII(they show proof of this)

-have had a priest of their own in the vatican in hopes of getting some control (since the church reaches such a wide audience[they actually had video footage of the crooked priest to proove that point])

-have their official logo (the all seing eye, found in the back of the us dollar bill) imprinted in KGB documents (its printed in the period at the end of the last sentence, needs to be maganafied 10x to see it)

-have members in the cia, KGB, governments, banks arounnd the world, ect, ect , ect..

These are just a few of the things they have been involved in, theres a lot more but the video i saw realy only targetted on the illuminati and their attempt to gain some control on the vatican. Eventually the goal is to achieve 1 government to have complete control of the world.

if you cant catch the documentary on ppv, then you can probably download it with bittorrent.

Was this based on Dan Brown's book Angel's & Deamons?
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Old 04-16-2005, 10:11 PM   #9
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I also saw this on PPV. I was intrugued.
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Was this based on Dan Brown's book Angel's & Deamons?
yes the name is the same...
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i'm pretty sure they exist, or at least, already existed...

Do I believe everything in Angel&Demons (a very good FICTION book), No...
I guess they existed in europe years ago but now days its like no for sure..
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Old 04-16-2005, 10:49 PM   #13
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But be warned...once initiated into the truth, your world will never be the same.
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Old 04-17-2005, 01:19 AM   #14
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read dan browns book
angels and demons
then read the devinci code
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read the book Angels and Demons.

The Illuminati are long dead.
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Old 04-17-2005, 01:27 AM   #16
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Old 04-17-2005, 01:32 AM   #17
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Old 04-17-2005, 02:08 AM   #18
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I believe. I have done a lot of research on this. I am 99.9% they exist today.
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The illuminati have an account here on GFY to gain more control here.

Oh nooooooess!
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Old 04-17-2005, 02:40 AM   #21
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The Illuminati has........

secret society skills
pope killing skills
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international banking skills
hey aren't they behind everything skills

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I saw that show 'angels and demons revealed'........i like how things just get floated out there with no evidence to back it up but we are supposed to swallow as fact.........the illuminati was behind the nazi movement and communism? is it supposed to be behind everything? and of course, it controls america too right, with the skull and bones societies, masonry etc.

this is the ultimate conspiracy theory, to weave all this together under the illuminati umbrella
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The problem with that stupid documentary (yes I got it on PPV a few nights ago) anybody with an actual grasp on history knows half the shit they claim is totally false.








Of course that is what "THEY" want you to think.
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Old 04-17-2005, 07:59 AM   #24
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consipracy has nothing to do with it,

luckily , no real documentation exist on the Illimunati , or what they do , or who they are,

fact is, todays world is conrolled by 750 - 1000 individuals, those individuals conrol the enitre world,


and thus they are the real illimunati , they dont work together all the time, they dont see eye to eye all the time

people like Bush and other politicians have no real power , power is only for those who have it for long periods of times

there are certain people behind politicians who have the real power ,
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consipracy has nothing to do with it,

luckily , no real documentation exist on the Illimunati , or what they do , or who they are,

fact is, todays world is conrolled by 750 - 1000 individuals, those individuals conrol the enitre world,


and thus they are the real illimunati , they dont work together all the time, they dont see eye to eye all the time

people like Bush and other politicians have no real power , power is only for those who have it for long periods of times

there are certain people behind politicians who have the real power ,

Agreed. Look at the WTO. The WTO almost controls everything in the entire world through trade.
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well there were are things on the show that are true, like the KGB-Bulgarian connection to kill the pope............of course they say the Illuminati was behind that too, and that they are behind the so called assassination of John Paul I............but it begs the question, if John Paul II was so dangerous to the Illuminati, and they are so powerful, why did they let this dangerous pope have the 3rd longest reign in papal history? the logic of this show just falls apart.
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are you one of the people that watched the "documentary" that showed you proof of mankind not being on the moon as well, and believed that??? REALLY :D
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I like how they base all of their opinions on Soviet and US control by the Illuminati by the so-called manuscripts of 'files of the KGB' purchased from a black marketeer. Then they take these manuscripts and happen to find periods and punctuation points with the hidden masonic symbol in them.


Like we webmasters now that NOTHING fraudulent EVER comes from Russia, right?

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they are just a masonic lodge, lots of them out there.
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are you one of the people that watched the "documentary" that showed you proof of mankind not being on the moon as well, and believed that??? REALLY :D
i like to keep an open mind. I mean, according to the government area 51 doesnt exist either. Yet you have 500 people leaving a guarded terminal from McCarran Airport in Las Vegas to fly there every day, with flights back and forth every half hour.

Roswell also comes to mind. Im sure all that was over a weather baloon too. Theres a lot going on in the world that we dont know about. Doesnt mean everything that gets shown in books/documentaries/websites is true, but im sure there is some truth to some of it.
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i like to keep an open mind. I mean, according to the government area 51 doesnt exist either. Yet you have 500 people leaving a guarded terminal from McCarran Airport in Las Vegas to fly there every day, with flights back and forth every half hour.

Roswell also comes to mind. Im sure all that was over a weather baloon too. Theres a lot going on in the world that we dont know about. Doesnt mean everything that gets shown in books/documentaries/websites is true, but im sure there is some truth to some of it.
Its not *CALLED* Area 51 I believe its called Groom Lake Air Force Base officially, and it does exist but I highly doubt its filled with lil green aliens.
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I believe in the Illuminati, but I doubt that its like a very cohesive group. I'd bet that they share some common goals, and I'll bet a large number of them, if not all of them, belong to these 3 groups...

1. The Trilateral Commission

2. The Bilderberger Group

3. The C.F.R. (Council of Foreign Relations)

All the members of these groups are a virtual who's who of wealth, banking, finance, industry leaders, etc. If anyone was planning a new model of govt. or "world domination", heh, as funny as it sounds, it would be these people.
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I heard about The Illuminati from the movie "Tomb Raider." I never thought that they really existed.
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bah..alot of the males in my family are masons...all they do is get drunk as hell.


you also need to know them to make sure you get your zoning etc

it is just a club for local guys to help keep outsiders from moving into small towns and taking over.
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bah..alot of the males in my family are masons...all they do is get drunk as hell.


you also need to know them to make sure you get your zoning etc

it is just a club for local guys to help keep outsiders from moving into small towns and taking over.
true. 95% of the masons are harmless, at lower levels. But if you make it to the 30-33rd levels their supposed to reveal their "secrets" an shit.

All the high level masons I ever read about were into some f'd up shit. Paying homage to Lucifer for their "gifts" and doin all kind of shady stuff.

I know some masons, but its like you said, the most hardcore thing i've seen 'em do is organize a fried steak dinner..
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I know some masons, but its like you said, the most hardcore thing i've seen 'em do is organize a fried steak dinner..
Well, you know ..........those fried steak dinners...............that proves they are trying to take over the world.
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true. 95% of the masons are harmless, at lower levels. But if you make it to the 30-33rd levels their supposed to reveal their "secrets" an shit.

All the high level masons I ever read about were into some f'd up shit. Paying homage to Lucifer for their "gifts" and doin all kind of shady stuff.
You're a fucking retard. Don't talk about things you don't understand. Idiot.
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Have not seen the movie in question but I have read quite a bit about them.

Found on the back of the U.S. dollar bill are the following words:

"Annuit Coeptis" and "novus ordo seclorum"

Annuit Coeptis translates to "He has favored our undertakings" and the use of "he" refers to God.

"novus ordo seclorum" translates to New World Order.


So..."God has favored our undertakings, New World Order."

That pretty much spells it out right there.

There is no doubt in my mind that The Illuminati are very real and once had a very strong grasp on global politics.

Think of The Illuminati as a huge paysite. It takes traffic sources to keep it alive and strong. Those traffic sources are the various Masonic Families which are dying out due to lack of support for the younger generations.

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What don't i understand cocksmoker? What are you a 33rd level mason?
Can YOU read? I've read articles about the high level mason shit and I can produce 'em...

So why don't you school me so I understand?
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true. 95% of the masons are harmless, at lower levels. But if you make it to the 30-33rd levels their supposed to reveal their "secrets" an shit.

All the high level masons I ever read about were into some f'd up shit. Paying homage to Lucifer for their "gifts" and doin all kind of shady stuff.

I know some masons, but its like you said, the most hardcore thing i've seen 'em do is organize a fried steak dinner..
my dad was a 32nd degree and the master of the lodge in our town... there is a tremendous amount of secretive stuff that goes on along with some pretty severe punishments for revealing those secrets.. but do they worship the devil? Some may and some may not.. just like some catholic priests molest little boys. However, the organization is founded upon religous atonements rather than satanic beliefs. Although some of it may be considered pagan due to the symbology it is still considered religion in the traditional meaning of the word.

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Old 04-19-2005, 03:18 PM   #50
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my dad was a 32nd degree and the master of the lodge in our town... there is a tremendous amount of secretive stuff that goes on along with some pretty severe punishments for revealing those secrets.. but do they worship the devil? Some may and some may not.. just like some catholic priests molest little boys. However, the organization is founded upon religous atonements rather than satanic beliefs. Although some of it may be considered pagan due to the symbology it is still considered religion in the traditional meaning of the word.
werd. I agree with that. I'm not disputing specifics or anything, i just wanted that one dude to quantify his b.s. attack on what i said.

cuz there is alot of weird stuff goin on at higher levels, in some of the lodges.
I guess i should have qualified my statement that back around WW II and before was when alot of the really weird occult style stuff was goin on with some of the masons at high levels.
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