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Old 04-17-2005, 08:06 AM   #1
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Adult Friend Finder - Shame on you

Why is that even the best sites occassionally have to divert to sleaze to attract members. I am both a promoter and a subscriber of AFF. So, yesterday, when I received an advertising email from AFF, and found the following reference (and versions thereof) a total of 2 different times, I wasn't very happy with the program:

small-breasted schoolgirl types

Or maybe you prefer the allure of small "schoolgirl" breasts?

To most surfers, 'schoolgirl' means exactly that: a school girl = an underaged girl

And I would assume that for more surfers then not, the implied mention that there could be underage girls on the site is a turnoff and a reason to get away from the site as quick as possible. You guys seem to forget, surfers are just like you and me. Just because they surf porn, doesn't mean that every little sick fantasy, such as schoolgirls, is going to turn them on.

AFF is a good program, for both the webmaster and our customers. I would hope that you reconsider using this type of appeal to generate business. This takes the acceptability of AFF as a viable dating site, to a site where our consumers need to sneak around and hide in shame.

On a side note, I assume that you send out a different email to the females? With 1 member out of about 20 being female, I would assume that considerable efforts are being made to ensure that not only do we convert our male visitiors to sales, but that when they join, they will find a good selection of 'real' members and not just a few 'real' ones splattered in with a large number of webmistress sites. And yes, a good percentage of the ads where the woman appears to be seeking everything under the sun: men, women, groups, couples, and so on, are in fact veiled ads for their adult sites.
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Old 04-17-2005, 08:09 AM   #2
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Old 04-17-2005, 08:17 AM   #3
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I have not gotten any emails like that from AFF and I have promoted them for years and years..

I have to say.. This week the Geotargeted adds finally picked up where I was actually from! They are working great and converting awesome!
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Old 04-17-2005, 03:43 PM   #4
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I have not gotten any emails like that from AFF and I have promoted them for years and years..
You are right and I am wrong. Of course the email I received couldn't possibly be from AFF. Oh wait, yes it is.

And it didn't mention schoolgirls twice...damn, wrong again. Yes it does.

So how 'bout it AFF?
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Old 04-17-2005, 04:51 PM   #5
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Bump one last time. I know everyone here just likes to collect their checks, and turn the other cheek. But, I for one believe that the adult industry can be run with honesty, integrity and dignity. Just because you support a program, doesn't mean that you have to accept everything they do, and keep your thoughts to yourself. You have a voice...use it.
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Old 04-17-2005, 04:56 PM   #6
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Who the fuck cares if they mention schoolgirls? Most adults know that "french maid" doesn't mean a house keeper from France. It's an outfit, just like most thinking adults know schoolgirl means, a girl dressing up in a plaid skirt and white top, with stockings.

People love to bitch about anything, don't they?
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Old 04-17-2005, 05:02 PM   #7
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Ummm "schoolgirls" doesnt instantly make me think of "underage".

Who fucking cares really?

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Old 04-17-2005, 05:03 PM   #8
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Who the fuck cares if they mention schoolgirls? Most adults know that "french maid" doesn't mean a house keeper from France. It's an outfit, just like most thinking adults know schoolgirl means, a girl dressing up in a plaid skirt and white top, with stockings.

People love to bitch about anything, don't they?
Seriously.

This guys like so insanly overly worried about pedo shit, it makes you wonder what his real problem is.
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Old 04-17-2005, 05:04 PM   #9
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and london school of economics is for kids right?
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Old 04-17-2005, 05:05 PM   #10
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i just hate AFF because of my shitty stats with them.

I mean REALLY shitty stats... I was considering posting them.... absolute b/s. I don't trust them one iota.
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Old 04-17-2005, 05:08 PM   #11
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Are you sure it wasn't from an affiliate of AFF?
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Old 04-17-2005, 05:11 PM   #12
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Seriously.

This guys like so insanly overly worried about pedo shit, it makes you wonder what his real problem is.
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When you hear "schoolgirls" you think of underage girls? What else makes you think of underage girls, hmmmm?
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and london school of economics is for kids right?
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Old 04-17-2005, 05:30 PM   #16
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Most adults know that "french maid" doesn't mean a house keeper from France.

it doesn't? FUCK!

and here I thought anyone wearing that custom was actually from france
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Old 04-17-2005, 05:52 PM   #17
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Old 04-17-2005, 05:57 PM   #18
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I routinely receive spam for AFF, most of it disguised as "hi, it's linda... me and my girlfriends just got new webcams and we are taking our cothes off because it is so thrilling" or "first time nude on cam schoolgirls get camera in dorm rooms and get wild". I don't know how many I get because most of them are filtered.

They all go through various bounce points in china, korea, and russia before going to AFF.

One of those things.

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Old 04-17-2005, 06:26 PM   #19
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Nowadays, when I hear "schoolgirl" I instantly think of a 30 year old woman in pigtails.
Now THAT is disgraceful.
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Old 04-17-2005, 06:33 PM   #20
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Anyone who has signed up at AFF knows that you must be at least 18 years old to become a member, if they have half a braincell they will understand that schoolgirl does not mean underage ? at least not there.
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Old 04-17-2005, 06:56 PM   #21
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As expected, no surprises in the responses.
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xiando, so they could use "lolita", "middle school" and "preteen" as well? Your logic is not very good.
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Old 04-17-2005, 07:37 PM   #23
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As expected, no surprises in the responses.
I didn't receive the email. To you it maybe bad. Did it come from AFF or an affiliate? I received a lot worse from affiliates promoting thier site and really disgusting emails from members with a free membership
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Old 04-17-2005, 07:41 PM   #24
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I got an email from AFF and it said Chimmy is a fag
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Old 04-17-2005, 07:45 PM   #26
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Why is that even the best sites occassionally have to divert to sleaze to attract members. I am both a promoter and a subscriber of AFF. So, yesterday, when I received an advertising email from AFF, and found the following reference (and versions thereof) a total of 2 different times, I wasn't very happy with the program:

small-breasted schoolgirl types

Or maybe you prefer the allure of small "schoolgirl" breasts?

To most surfers, 'schoolgirl' means exactly that: a school girl = an underaged girl

And I would assume that for more surfers then not, the implied mention that there could be underage girls on the site is a turnoff and a reason to get away from the site as quick as possible. You guys seem to forget, surfers are just like you and me. Just because they surf porn, doesn't mean that every little sick fantasy, such as schoolgirls, is going to turn them on.

AFF is a good program, for both the webmaster and our customers. I would hope that you reconsider using this type of appeal to generate business. This takes the acceptability of AFF as a viable dating site, to a site where our consumers need to sneak around and hide in shame.

On a side note, I assume that you send out a different email to the females? With 1 member out of about 20 being female, I would assume that considerable efforts are being made to ensure that not only do we convert our male visitiors to sales, but that when they join, they will find a good selection of 'real' members and not just a few 'real' ones splattered in with a large number of webmistress sites. And yes, a good percentage of the ads where the woman appears to be seeking everything under the sun: men, women, groups, couples, and so on, are in fact veiled ads for their adult sites.

School girl = Girl in school

Nobody said anything about the exploitation of illegal aged models.
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I think it's safe to say that the term "school girl" for most people will lead them to think of high-school age. And "College girls" to most would apply to 18/19 - early/mid 20s.

I agree with you that it is at least bordering on distasteful because clearly many people will interpret "school girl" as at least teen (legal or not). They should at least have the terms "legal", "18+" or something else in there that clearly implies that there are NO under-agers on the site.
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I think it's safe to say that the term "school girl" for most people will lead them to think of high-school age. And "College girls" to most would apply to 18/19 - early/mid 20s.

I agree with you that it is at least bordering on distasteful because clearly many people will interpret "school girl" as at least teen (legal or not). They should at least have the terms "legal", "18+" or something else in there that clearly implies that there are NO under-agers on the site.
Good points.
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I agree with you that AFF rules, but if it is really true that they used 'school girls' then they really need to get a new copy-writer. To the average 'joe blow' and even people holding a college degree or higher in the US, 'school girls' means not in high school yet or depending the area not in junior high school yet.

Probably an affiliate spam.
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To those of you who suggested it might be affiliate spam, it's not. It is an email directly from AFF, with no referral codes, which is addressed as Dear (Member Name), using a name I originally signed up with to test AFF, before promoting it.
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To those of you who suggested it might be affiliate spam, it's not. It is an email directly from AFF, with no referral codes, which is addressed as Dear (Member Name), using a name I originally signed up with to test AFF, before promoting it.
Which dating company do you work for?
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To those of you who suggested it might be affiliate spam, it's not. It is an email directly from AFF, with no referral codes, which is addressed as Dear (Member Name), using a name I originally signed up with to test AFF, before promoting it.
Post the email. I only have two free memberships (one as male and another as female) I recieved no email from AFF as a free member of what you are claiming.
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Post the email. I only have two free memberships (one as male and another as female) I recieved no email from AFF as a free member of what you are claiming.
Interesting how you just proved my second point about fake members. Both male and female.

Anyhow, here's the text from the email...

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Interesting how you just proved my second point about fake members. Both male and female.

...What about small-breasted schoolgirl types
...Or maybe you prefer the allure of small "schoolgirl" breasts? ...
In the context of the writing nothing wrong with that email unless you single it out like you did in red. Now try and read some of your spam and compare it.

I would rather get that email than someone spoofing an sponsor's email addy, and seeing 'shit' that I cannot post here. Good luck with your quest
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Old 04-17-2005, 09:29 PM   #37
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In the context of the writing nothing wrong with that email unless you single it out like you did in red. Now try and read some of your spam and compare it.

I would rather get that email than someone spoofing an sponsor's email addy, and seeing 'shit' that I cannot post here. Good luck with your quest
Thanks. But even left in the context of the email..schoolgirl does not have a place in a site that promotes itself as a legitimate dating site for consenting "adults".
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Old 04-17-2005, 10:23 PM   #38
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Thanks. But even left in the context of the email..schoolgirl does not have a place in a site that promotes itself as a legitimate dating site for consenting "adults".
It is called advertising. I find it disgusting that I might find a fat person to fuck according to the email so I wouldn?t click.

IMO nothing wrong with that email you are making a fuss over.

I object to these kinds of emails that I receive: See daddy and a dog fuck a school girl or buy cheap prescription drugs and the rest of spammers emails that out of million might get one sign up.

Just opt out of the email list if you don?t like it. They are a good company.
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Old 04-17-2005, 10:49 PM   #39
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You are right and I am wrong. Of course the email I received couldn't possibly be from AFF. Oh wait, yes it is.

And it didn't mention schoolgirls twice...damn, wrong again. Yes it does.

So how 'bout it AFF?
Did I say you were wrong... or Did I say that I had not gotten any myself??

Get your shit straight before you try to go off on someone please
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Old 04-17-2005, 10:52 PM   #40
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Why is that even the best sites occassionally have to divert to sleaze to attract members. I am both a promoter and a subscriber of AFF. So, yesterday, when I received an advertising email from AFF, and found the following reference (and versions thereof) a total of 2 different times, I wasn't very happy with the program:

small-breasted schoolgirl types

Or maybe you prefer the allure of small "schoolgirl" breasts?

To most surfers, 'schoolgirl' means exactly that: a school girl = an underaged girl

And I would assume that for more surfers then not, the implied mention that there could be underage girls on the site is a turnoff and a reason to get away from the site as quick as possible. You guys seem to forget, surfers are just like you and me. Just because they surf porn, doesn't mean that every little sick fantasy, such as schoolgirls, is going to turn them on.

AFF is a good program, for both the webmaster and our customers. I would hope that you reconsider using this type of appeal to generate business. This takes the acceptability of AFF as a viable dating site, to a site where our consumers need to sneak around and hide in shame.

On a side note, I assume that you send out a different email to the females? With 1 member out of about 20 being female, I would assume that considerable efforts are being made to ensure that not only do we convert our male visitiors to sales, but that when they join, they will find a good selection of 'real' members and not just a few 'real' ones splattered in with a large number of webmistress sites. And yes, a good percentage of the ads where the woman appears to be seeking everything under the sun: men, women, groups, couples, and so on, are in fact veiled ads for their adult sites.
Not pointing out AFF in particular but dating sites in general. How many of the "female" ads do you think are real, other webmaster's spam, or bogus entries by the personals site ?
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Old 04-17-2005, 11:00 PM   #41
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I think it's safe to say that the term "school girl" for most people will lead them to think of high-school age. And "College girls" to most would apply to 18/19 - early/mid 20s.

I agree with you that it is at least bordering on distasteful because clearly many people will interpret "school girl" as at least teen (legal or not). They should at least have the terms "legal", "18+" or something else in there that clearly implies that there are NO under-agers on the site.
exaclty what i was going to post. there are school girls and then there are college girls...

ifriends makes sure all of its ads and affiliates make sure to mention 18+ when ever they refer to someone as teen or school girl or anything at all that makes you question it.
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Post the email. I only have two free memberships (one as male and another as female) I recieved no email from AFF as a free member of what you are claiming.
you a shim ?
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going to have to pull my AFF links . Ever since the switch/partnership/whatever it was, my conversions to members have been for shit.
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going to have to pull my AFF links . Ever since the switch/partnership/whatever it was, my conversions to members have been for shit.

you try clickcash ?
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A non issue. Even less so in the full context. Get a hobby.
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Why is that even the best sites occassionally have to divert to sleaze to attract members. I am both a promoter and a subscriber of AFF. So, yesterday, when I received an advertising email from AFF, and found the following reference (and versions thereof) a total of 2 different times, I wasn't very happy with the program:

small-breasted schoolgirl types

Or maybe you prefer the allure of small "schoolgirl" breasts?

To most surfers, 'schoolgirl' means exactly that: a school girl = an underaged girl

And I would assume that for more surfers then not, the implied mention that there could be underage girls on the site is a turnoff and a reason to get away from the site as quick as possible. You guys seem to forget, surfers are just like you and me. Just because they surf porn, doesn't mean that every little sick fantasy, such as schoolgirls, is going to turn them on.

AFF is a good program, for both the webmaster and our customers. I would hope that you reconsider using this type of appeal to generate business. This takes the acceptability of AFF as a viable dating site, to a site where our consumers need to sneak around and hide in shame.

On a side note, I assume that you send out a different email to the females? With 1 member out of about 20 being female, I would assume that considerable efforts are being made to ensure that not only do we convert our male visitiors to sales, but that when they join, they will find a good selection of 'real' members and not just a few 'real' ones splattered in with a large number of webmistress sites. And yes, a good percentage of the ads where the woman appears to be seeking everything under the sun: men, women, groups, couples, and so on, are in fact veiled ads for their adult sites.
There are a lot of fake AFF profiles.
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you try clickcash ?
will, didnt you just jump down my throat not long ago about me
posting streamray in a thread that had to do with clickcash not
paying out webmasters?? that was you right? not just someone
posting under your name?
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There are a lot of fake AFF profiles.

there is staff at AFF doing nothing but making sure that fake profiles are taken down as soon as possible. and when you see one, please let someone at AFF know
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I just think of a Catholic Schoolgirl outfit.. Not underage chicks.
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50 posts by an idiot trying to slam aff but made to look like the fool he is
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