oakenfold busts into the mix tape underground market next week just prior to his upcoming tour.

the money is all being made in the underground and anyone wanting to break off a cut, better have some serious protection and a bullet-proof vest.

the appearance fees of house and trance style dj's and even hip-hop dj's are nothing compared to the cash whookid is clocking and they are some serious thugs who are not to be messed with running the show.

it is a messy equation and hip-hop is the only genre making money.

depending on who the dj is, i like it...there is a lot of shit out there lately though....i love some of the parts on bad boy bills cd's, but overall I am never real impressed with him..i saw him twice live and it was terrible

I am EXTREMELY impressed with what he has done with himself though, he built a mini-empire, and all by himself...what he has done with himself and his companies is amazing, and I will respect and support him forever for that reason

Some are just trying-hard to be rappers. Just a few had the skills.

i don't really agree with that totally, i have very good friends that play and produce house and trance that are raking in some serious cash...and while when you say making money you are thinking high 7 figures and up, when I think making money I am talking low 6 figures and up....there are a lot of domestic based djs that play out 4-5 nights a week across the country and rake in a high 6 figure income just from travelling and djing...that doesn't count in their production companies and other ventures

one of our clients in mainstream just closed a blanket license deal with universal and has had several threats on his life from the people who pre-release tracks while the same labels turn a blind eye.

the numbers are 7 fig's monthly from underground nationwide distribution and it is ALL CASH.

there is no way I would want to be in any part of that end of the biz...i lead a simple life and have no desire to be on that level :)

sounds scary

already in the works.


i will get at you. i want to put all the djs in one place.

Post pics of your setup!

I better start practicing! I'm a little rusty :winkwink:

What is the big fascination with oakenfold? not impressed at all. i have seen him 3 or 4 times live, twice he played dat tapes and pretended to dj. weak. i would never book him. darren was talking about getting him for January in vegas. i told him to get tiesto. i am not sure the adult community will even like any of them. i have had to gravely hack and slash my underground style to rock an adult crowd. i had to make my shit so commercial just to be accepted by adult.

50 HOT DJS AND MCs


it really comes down to marketing. half if not more of the big name djs have sold out and dont even put out mixes that they do themselves. their labels mix them, or they mix them in pro tools. i hate sterile studio mixes. thats why i only release "live" club mixes. its the same with marketing pop stars. ashley simpson sucks an ass, but her father is a master marketer along with the label and they kill. they target and massacre their target demograhic. an artist can suck an ass as long as they have a great marketing team and producers to honey up the tracks.

dream on- the money is being made hand over fist with pre-release samples and cuts a la emenem is sitting in the studio with flex on a sunday night and lays down tracks that come out 2 days later all over while the actual label release is 6 months away. the other market is recording live performances at the hip hop club and getting them out with all the pre-release sample in days. all the rest of the sales and trance, house etc. don't amount to shit. the cache is not there. i am going to shut up now before my nyc guy flies out here and stuffs a rag in my mouth and lites it on fire.

btw my favorite label is om records and they gave us the rights to use their songs on our flash tour at http://XPays.com

our apparel line http://XThreadz.com also sponsored a 5 date tour with john howard, miguel migs, soulstice etc with Om. Good people- they'll never make any money though...

edit- music on the xthreadz flash tour is also om

Shut up already, would you please?

On to the topic, it would be interesting to see what you come up with.

i volunteer to be a judge and am impartial

i think we are talking about two different things. i dont get into the hip hop thing too much. i should have been more clear. i am talking about the whole ZTRIP and Too Many DJs type of stuff and club stuff. hip hop is a messed up fucked up world of big time money. not interested. i am club life, you know that. oakie makes 30 g's for some shows. (why i dont know). sasha, vandyk, tiesto, taucher, and the list goes on, about the same. this is about us. fuck those guys. i've opened for quite a bit of these "big" djs and i stood there and wondered how they get paid what they do. they don';t mix any better or program any better. you just have to find what you like to do and stick with it. i hate hip hop clubs. nothing but fucking attitude assholes and hard looks. i am about clubs where no one has an attitude and you can talk to anyone, their girl, and their girls girls. hip hop is a big mess. you are a house head too somewhere in your blood. i know it. you have mad love for house. i wanna see what the djs in this biz can do. seems like alot of people have come out of the woodworks as of late. i am gonna guage the talent pool. thats what i wanted from this thread.

i am biased against anything more than turntables, a mixer, and a microphone though...

you seem to be real into the hip hop dj market, while most of us posting her are in the edm dj market....those are WAY two seperate things...and when i say WAY, i mean it...there is almost nothing similar about about dj dan and his career as opposed to shortkut and his career...the ways and means in the two genres of music are completely different

what if we want you in the competition? you are one of us. :thumbsup


the prequal is.

2 turntables.
mixer. (ecler two channel) fuck vestax
mic
plates.

thats it.

yeah, i posted the same thing before reading your post

the edm club world and hip hop club world are 500% different about what goes down and how it goes down

you can't compare a climb to success for a hip hop dj and a edm dj...you just can't do it...and i know xpays knows the hip hop dj world inside and out...just like we know the edm dj world inside and out

what genre of music would the competition be? I am not sure I wanna do battle shit in front of a crowd again, i love doing in my house and on cd's, but I enjoy edm and can get into being more of myself if I was doing what I love on the decks

and as far as a dj competition with edm styles? i would not trust it...cause I have this wierd feeling that someone get up there and play sandstorm and some other cheesy trance tracks and get more votes and win cause the audience and judges recognize songs over style

i think if there were some sort of competition, one of the rules should state that contestants had to use current playlist tracks composed of new music...cause anyone can get up on stage and play sandstorm and move mindless masses...know what I mean?

there is a local dj here in town that is praised by the club goers as being the best dj in town....this dude is so fucking annoying to real club goers, cause he will take new songs and mash them up with sandstorm...he has a new sandstorm mash up every week...it is amazing...to the mindless club masses he is the shit, cause mindless club masses never want to let go of that one moment when they first heard or danced to a top 40 song

sorry for posting so much, i have a cold and took some cold medicine with ephedrin in it and am going at 2x normal speed

D-Money's Players Ball DJ's through the years

DJ Sasha
DJ Kid Capri
DJ Airek
DJ Jam (Snoops DJ and mix cd DJ)
DJ Evan (current resident DJ, DJ'd more then a handful of Players Balls)
DJ Invisible (Xzibit's DJ)
DJ Fuse (original Digital Underground DJ)
DJ Muggs (Cypress Hill & House Of Pain DJ)
DJ Green Lantern (Eminem's DJ and mix tape top seller)

I'm leaving off a few DJ's, but these were the top Players Ball DJ's I can remember off hand.

yeah, i posted the same thing before reading your post

the edm club world and hip hop club world are 500% different about what goes down and how it goes down
the main reason for me posting this is because i overheard some things from people who i didnt know that were talking some BS that they heard from people who i didn't think would talk BS.

evan is old school too. he was right there in the beginning with the whole underground line of clothes and dj slipmats, etc, before he brought his djing to the public. i still have the slipmats and actually use them in clubs where the floors are shaky because they are thicker and absorb more of the shock.
since we were the first to bring djs and the culture into the conventions and such, back when i wasn't even a good dj, i got to see how the industry came up into the dj thing to date. now, about every other booth at internext has a dj. R.O.B. from vegas was the second as far as i know. i forget who brought him, if someone knows fill me in, the booth was right by xpays in 2001 jan i believe right after the show turned from ia2000 to internext.

nowadays, people have figured out that you can use the whole "dj" thing to market yourself and a program. i'm just basically guaging the industries talent level. i want to see more of it. i also want to see the talent level. i am a competitor and am very aggressive at everything i do. some like it some don't.

thread took a turn without me knowing. just to clarify why i started it, ther it is. i want to create a sub culture within a culture. i will do that. you're all a part of it now.

D

i'd really like to see you get tiesto. oakie is overrated and overpaid. ;)
you have gotten good talent through the years and even let me spin before i was even a good dj, (i was ok at best at the time). i dont think the adult people are gonna vibe on him. i have had to butcher my style to be accepted by the webmasters. they love commercial shit. even paul van dyk or armand van helden would be better.

also, if you want a reggae dj between the bands for players ball, get Dj Supa Mario, he is sd based and i think you actualy introduced him to me.


actually D brpught sasha before i came into the picture.

shadow lounge

you already know I am 100% a part of whatever you want to do

i am already planning something for internext 2005 hollywood....I am hoping to get it to players ball status, but with edm instead of hip hop...and no d-money, not gunna steal your idea :) LOL...just gunna do a rave style thing....

i hope we can pull it off, it would be phat to have a players ball and a rave style event as the two main parties at internext!

i am all about tiesto, he is a great dj and actually unlike oakenfold and sasha, still sticks to the old school and knows how to move a crowd with his soul and flow as opposed to with his cd's and laptop...

but I personally love people like dj dan, donald glaude, etc....i really wanna bring Evil Nine to a party at internext..that would be off the hook...they are blowing up right now huge

Oh yeah, left him out of the DJ line up. He did Vegas in 1999. He's not that good, but has a big colletion of records.

I've helped turn Evan into a reggae DJ, he has a great feel for mixing between the dancehall and singers with a nice hip hip reggae mix here and there. Evan's played the Reggae party when we had Third World in florida and plays lot's of reggae during the Players Ball, Buju, Shabba, Beenie, Capleton... Just had to give some props to my DJ, he works for free, I can at least compliment him when I can.

for those that haven't heard of Evil Nine

http://evilnine.preloaded.com/

yes you are. ;) my official dj/designer.

http://www.airek.com/final_cd.jpg

theres nothing really to pull off. we need a little unity and some structure within the dj community here. its just healthy. like a little union of deckmasters. i have a site in the works for us already, should be done asap.

i'll release the name and site within a week probably. it looks decent, but i sent the guy back to make changes. looked a little cheesy.

for sho. i need you to icq me, i never see you online and i heard something i'd like verified if you don't mind.

k, talk to me, i have something big in the works, we should try and consolidate. i wouldn't mind having you as a partner at all.

<-- dj / mc / producer.

:thumbsup

and overall big pimp
:winkwink:

:pimp :pimp

yeah, we have those in l.a. too. if you play that shit the drunk, e-d out sheep will follow. the rel club heads can tell real djs. theres just a level of energy that you can get in a room that you cna cut with a knife. those idiots that have 20 records and do the same tunes every day cant hang. dont sweat it. this will be put together by us, so it will be on hit.

I've been very impressed with the talent in the GFY pool.

I've already spoken with Airek and Yt and others imformally...

But if anyone is interested in submitting a mix for FLASHCASH's Emerging DJ Mix Series Volume 2 (to be released at FL Internext)...

Email me and I'll give you details. halcyon (AT) flashcash.com or halcyon (AT) cockybastard.com

Mine too :thumbsup
Also http://www.naked-music.com/

i'm all over it pink haired dude!