Cure For Cancer!!!

[L0rdJuni0r]

Is this true? My friend, who is a doctor, told me about this. Then i looked it up and he was right.
i also heard the US Gov. doesnt want this known. I really hope this cure is true because cancer runs in my family.



Cure for cancer

[Spunky]

Hmmm..I'm kinda skeptical...intresting read though

[Head]

Off course they have a cure but the drug companies and hospitals make too much money from research and kimotherapy machines.

[L0rdJuni0r]

Originally Posted by Head

Off course they have a cure but the drug companies and hospitals make too much money from research and kimotherapy machines.

that is exactly what i hear. I think its very sad that alot of peaple are suffering and they dont give a fuck.

[Nembrionic]

Originally Posted by Head

Off course they have a cure but the drug companies and hospitals make too much money from research and kimotherapy machines.

"Ofcourse"

Ofcourse there's UFO's as well. And offcourse there's a heaven.

But the US government is keeping a lid on it all.

[r3ap3r]

I hope it's true. Cancer runs in my family.

[BRISK]

Originally Posted by Nembrionic

"Ofcourse"

Ofcourse there's UFO's as well. And offcourse there's a heaven.

But the US government is keeping a lid on it all.

The US government is also keeping this a secret in every country of the world too. Including China, Cuba, and North Korea.

or is it the illuminati? I can't remember who's controlling the world this week

[KRL]

Hospitals are filled with corruption and fraud.

Medical research is filled with corruption and fraud.

Drug companies are filled with corruption and fraud.

The governement is filled with corruption and fraud.

That kind of says it all.

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally Posted by BRISK

The US government is also keeping this a secret in every country of the world too. Including China, Cuba, and North Korea.

or is it the illuminati? I can't remember who's controlling the world this week

Exactly... I think North Korea, Russia would be cashing in on it if it were true.

[undermyspell]

there is a man in Texas that developed a cure for cancer (not sure if it's all types or not) and he tested it on people he know and it worked...

of course the FDA will not approve it because of the pressure that big drug companies and hospitals put on them... think about the billions of dollars of lost revenue for the medical profession if there was a one or two treatment for cancer and no further medical expenses again

[Nembrionic]

Originally Posted by BRISK

The US government is also keeping this a secret in every country of the world too. Including China, Cuba, and North Korea.

or is it the illuminati? I can't remember who's controlling the world this week

The Carlyle Group.

[SuckOnThis]

There is no actual proven cure for cancer. The drug companies, the medical community and the govt immediately label any researcher a quack that claims to have come close to a cure and it is never tested. It is much to profitable to treat cancer (and other diseases) to find a cure. The average cost to treat someone with cancer is $277,000 and about half of all medical treatment is cancer related. The economy would literally crash if a cure happened tomorrow.

[BRISK]

Originally Posted by undermyspell

there is a man in Texas that developed a cure for cancer

...and you know this how?

[doober]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

There is no actual proven cure for cancer. The drug companies, the medical community and the govt immediately label any researcher a quack that claims to have come close to a cure and it is never tested. It is much to profitable to treat cancer (and other diseases) to find a cure. The average cost to treat someone with cancer is $277,000 and about half of all medical treatment is cancer related. The economy would literally crash if a cure happened tomorrow.

Tottally agree with you on this, but of course we are all wearing tin foil hats according to the masses.

Thanks for posting the link L0rdJuni0r, interesting read....to say the least

[SmokeyTheBear]

Yup its true , everyone with cancer is now cured.

But in other news , they still cant cure "the common cold "

[undermyspell]

Originally Posted by BRISK

...and you know this how?

because there was a big article about him in the university paper and one of the professors I had in college had talked with/knew him

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by BRISK

The US government is also keeping this a secret in every country of the world too. Including China, Cuba, and North Korea.

or is it the illuminati? I can't remember who's controlling the world this week

According to some it's me and Al GOre.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by zzgundamnzz

Exactly... I think North Korea, Russia would be cashing in on it if it were true.

Actually the drug mentioned in the article (Laetrile) is legal and used in most countries for the treatment of cancer but not in the US. Why? Because since its main ingredient is Vitamin B17 it cannot be patented by a drug company so no money is spent to research it because its not profitable. Whens the last time anything natural has been approved by the FDA to treat anything?

[BT]

the drug industry would not let this happen

[BRISK]

Originally Posted by undermyspell

because there was a big article about him in the university paper and one of the professors I had in college had talked with/knew him

There's a difference between curing cancer and having an article written about you, in which you claim to have cured cancer. Was there any peer review?

[undermyspell]

Originally Posted by BRISK

There's a difference between curing cancer and having an article written about you, in which you claim to have cured cancer. Was there any peer review?

actually, and i'm working off memory from about 15 years ago, all the cases had been documented by doctors other than himself

[bigmack]

If there were a true cure for cancer, and I knew it for sure.. I wouldnt bat an eye about exposing it to the world, dispite gov't death threats, etc... Fuck those selfish bastards, if a cure was released it would save millions. I would risk my life to do it...Why not?

[SmokeyTheBear]

It is possible there is something that cures certain forms of cancer.

It isn't possible there's a global conspiracy ( or american conspiracy ) to suppress a cure for cancer. The simplest reasons being that the cancer rate of doctors isn't that much different than the average.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

It is possible there is something that cures certain forms of cancer.

It isn't possible there's a global conspiracy ( or american conspiracy ) to suppress a cure for cancer. The simplest reasons being that the cancer rate of doctors isn't that much different than the average.

Medical schools receive heavy donations from drug companies therefore they are trained to believe the way the drug companies want them to believe. They also receive incentives to prescribe certain drugs. Walk into any doctors office and everything from his pen to the calendar is an advertisement from drug companies. Ask your average doctor how he feels about herbs and he'll roll his eyes. Doctors have become nothing more than legalized drug pushers for the pharmaceutical companies.

[Mutt]

oh jesus the tinfoil hat brigade - i don't trust drug companies nor the government but there is NO cancer conspiracy. as Smokey said doctors and their families die of cancer the same as the rest of us - same for politicians and CEO's of drug companies. case closed.

Laetrile has been around for decades and when it's been tested scientifically the results suck. Same for Essiac, shark cartilage and hundreds of other quack cures the tinfoil hat brigade latches onto.

is it possible that somebody some simple cancer cure that can't be patented might emerge? yup. and would the drug companies try to suppress it? think that's possible but it would never work - the truth still does get out even though it seems as if it's getting harder and harder.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by Mutt

oh jesus the tinfoil hat brigade - i don't trust drug companies nor the government but there is NO cancer conspiracy. as Smokey said doctors and their families die of cancer the same as the rest of us - same for politicians and CEO's of drug companies. case closed.

Over 75% of the oncologists polled said that if they had cancer they would never use the same chemotherapy they prescribe for their patients on themselves because of the ineffectiveness of chemotherapy and its unacceptable degree of toxicity.
Los Angeles Times report

...as a chemist trained to interpret data, it is incomprehensible to me that physicians can ignore the clear evidence that chemotherapy does much, much more harm than good.
Alan C Nixon, PhD, former president of the American Chemical Society

As a retired physician, I can honestly say that unless you are in a serious accident, YOUR BEST CHANCE OF LIVING TO A RIPE OLD AGE IS TO AVOID DOCTORS AND HOSPITALS AND LEARN NUTRITION, HERBAL MEDICINE AND OTHER FORMS OF NATURAL MEDICINE. Almost all drugs are toxic and are designed only to treat symptoms and not to cure anyone. Most surgery is unnecessary. In short, our mainstream medical system is hopelessly inept and/or corrupt. THE TREATMENT OF CANCER AND DEGENERATIVE DISEASES IS A NATIONAL SCANDAL. The sooner you learn this, the better off you will be.
Dr. Allan Greenberg

My studies have proved conclusively that cancer patients who refuse chemotherapy and radiation actually live up to FOUR TIMES LONGER THAN TREATED CASES...Beyond a shadow of a doubt, radical surgery on cancer does more harm than good...As for radiation treatment -- most of the time it makes not the slightest difference whether the machine is turned on or not. ...unfortunately, it seems to be only a question of time, usually, before the disease pops up again all over the body... Every cancer patient who keeps in excellent physical shape may have many good years left. The alternative is to squander those years as an invalid through radical medical intervention, which has zero chance of extending life. ...It's utter nonsense to claim that catching cancer symptoms early enough will increase the patient's chances of survival... Furthermore, untreated breast cancer cases show a life expectancy four times longer than treated ones.
Dr. Hardin Jones, prominent cancer researcher & former physiology professor at the University of California Department of Medical Physics, who has been studying cancer for more than 23 years, travelling the world to collect data on the dreaded disease. Published in Transactions, New York Academy of Science, series 2, v.18, n.3, p. 322.

Originally Posted by Mutt

Laetrile has been around for decades and when it's been tested scientifically the results suck. Same for Essiac, shark cartilage and hundreds of other quack cures the tinfoil hat brigade latches onto.

http://www.thefountainoflife.ws/cancer/howgood.htm
In 1972, the Sloan Memmorial Ketering Cancer Reasearch (SMKR) commissioned their top senior cancer researcher to conduct tests over a 5 year period between 1972 and 1977 and finally put an end to this laetrile quackery. They asked Dr. Kanematsu Sugiura, their most senior researcher with over 60 years experience in cancer research, who had been under their employment since 1917 and was totally dedicated to cancer research.

Dr. Sugiura said, "The most interesting part is metastases. Secondary cancer growth to another location. When this mammary tumor grows to about two centimetres in diameter or more, about 80% develop lung metastases. But with treatment with laetrile/amygdalin, it's cut down to about 20%."

[ThunderBalls]

Over 18 months ago I was diagnosed with a tumor in my kidney. My doctor said that from the cat scan it appeared that the tumor may also have gone into my liver, which if it had the survival rate would be about 5%. He wanted to remove my kidney and part of my liver. After researching cancer treatment and finding that there are A LOT of doctors out there who believe cancer treatment kills more than it saves and thinking about how every person I've known who went through cancer treatment only to go through hell for a year or two and still ended up dying I faced the fact that I was going to die and decided to not do anything. My doctor told me I would be dead in less than 4 months. I spent the next few months basically waiting to die and I was perfectly okay with it after the shock wore off. My doctor started mailing me those 'its time for your 6 month checkup' cards through certified mail! I'm sure it was to see if I was still alive. So here it is a year and a half later and I'm obviously still here and I still feel as healthy as I ever did. The tumor was never tested to see if it was malignant or not, but according to the doctor he "was sure it was cancer". He definitely used fear, and was annoyed that I took it upon myself to research various cancer treatments. His attitude was that I should take his word as gospel and do whatever he said without question. I really believe if I did do that I would either be fucked up in bed or dead by now, maybe it'll still happen but I've had almost 2 years of feeling good that I wouldnt have had I followed his advice.

[reynold]

If that news is true then good.

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by ThunderBalls

Over 18 months ago I was diagnosed with a tumor in my kidney. My doctor said that from the cat scan it appeared that the tumor may also have gone into my liver, which if it had the survival rate would be about 5%. He wanted to remove my kidney and part of my liver. After researching cancer treatment and finding that there are A LOT of doctors out there who believe cancer treatment kills more than it saves and thinking about how every person I've known who went through cancer treatment only to go through hell for a year or two and still ended up dying I faced the fact that I was going to die and decided to not do anything. My doctor told me I would be dead in less than 4 months. I spent the next few months basically waiting to die and I was perfectly okay with it after the shock wore off. My doctor started mailing me those 'its time for your 6 month checkup' cards through certified mail! I'm sure it was to see if I was still alive. So here it is a year and a half later and I'm obviously still here and I still feel as healthy as I ever did. The tumor was never tested to see if it was malignant or not, but according to the doctor he "was sure it was cancer". He definitely used fear, and was annoyed that I took it upon myself to research various cancer treatments. His attitude was that I should take his word as gospel and do whatever he said without question. I really believe if I did do that I would either be fucked up in bed or dead by now, maybe it'll still happen but I've had almost 2 years of feeling good that I wouldnt have had I followed his advice.

wow. hope you don't have cancer.

i have come to the same conclusion about cancer after my Dad's battle with it - he would have been much better off doing nothing, he would have saved himself the stress and downtime/sicktime caused by of all the different tests and three surgeries, plus i think he would have lasted longer. If you have a cancer that is ultimately going to kill you in less than 5 years, then doing nothing makes sense.

but come on, i personally know a bunch of people with cancers that are treatable and they had the treatment(surgery/chemo/radiation) and never looked back. some cancers are very curable nowadays.

When your kid gets leukemia go ahead, treat him with Laetrile or do nothing, your kid will be dead. Get real treatment and there's 70% chance he'll go on to live a long normal life.

not sure about the leukemia cure rate but it's over 50%.

cancer sucks so bad it's not funny - the worst part is when somebody you love has it and you go do the research in hope of finding something promising and u don't find anything- it's unfathomable that in 2005 with all the amazing things human beings have done in other areas that cancer treatment is still in so many cases a failure. The only chemo drug my Dad got was first used in the 1950's! In 50 years not one fucking chump researcher or drug company has developed a better one. That is a disgrace.

I was very angry at scientists when my dad died of cancer and within 3 months of that my beautiful 28 year old cousin about to be married got diagnosed and was gone in less than 9 months. Why angry? Because I sometimes go to two major teaching hospitals and I have walked through the research department floors - you don't see any of these brainiacs burning the midnight oil, they show up at 9 and are gone by 4:30. There is NO urgency in these people to find cures, i know this for a fact. My best friend's uncle is, probably was now, well known cancer researcher at the University of Chicago. His entire career has been spent working on some small little thing - he seriously didn't seem to be in a rush or really that interested in if his entire career turns out to be a big help, little help or no help in the fight against cancer. He was just happy to live his life, get a paycheck and do something he found interesting. Thank god for capitalism, greed is good.

This is an idea I had once - a reward given by the government for the cure for cancer - instead of people donating money to the Cancer Society when somebody dies it goes into a reward system. Find the cure of cancer? Here's a billion bucks, thanks! There needs to be more of an incentive - i really think it's part of the solution.

[L0rdJuni0r]

Originally Posted by ThunderBalls

Over 18 months ago I was diagnosed with a tumor in my kidney. My doctor said that from the cat scan it appeared that the tumor may also have gone into my liver, which if it had the survival rate would be about 5%. He wanted to remove my kidney and part of my liver. After researching cancer treatment and finding that there are A LOT of doctors out there who believe cancer treatment kills more than it saves and thinking about how every person I've known who went through cancer treatment only to go through hell for a year or two and still ended up dying I faced the fact that I was going to die and decided to not do anything. My doctor told me I would be dead in less than 4 months. I spent the next few months basically waiting to die and I was perfectly okay with it after the shock wore off. My doctor started mailing me those 'its time for your 6 month checkup' cards through certified mail! I'm sure it was to see if I was still alive. So here it is a year and a half later and I'm obviously still here and I still feel as healthy as I ever did. The tumor was never tested to see if it was malignant or not, but according to the doctor he "was sure it was cancer". He definitely used fear, and was annoyed that I took it upon myself to research various cancer treatments. His attitude was that I should take his word as gospel and do whatever he said without question. I really believe if I did do that I would either be fucked up in bed or dead by now, maybe it'll still happen but I've had almost 2 years of feeling good that I wouldnt have had I followed his advice.

damn man! i wish you good luck.
didnt Bob Marley have cancer in like 80% of his body and was still doing shows? It must be the weed. I just got the news last night that my aunt died of cancer . i hope there is a cure because it sucks.

[L0rdJuni0r]

[QUOTE=SuckOnThis]Over 75% of the oncologists polled said that if they had cancer they would never use the same chemotherapy they prescribe for their patients on themselves because of the ineffectiveness of chemotherapy and its unacceptable degree of toxicity.
Los Angeles Times report

...as a chemist trained to interpret data, it is incomprehensible to me that physicians can ignore the clear evidence that chemotherapy does much, much more harm than good.
Alan C Nixon, PhD, former president of the American Chemical Society

As a retired physician, I can honestly say that unless you are in a serious accident, YOUR BEST CHANCE OF LIVING TO A RIPE OLD AGE IS TO AVOID DOCTORS AND HOSPITALS AND LEARN NUTRITION, HERBAL MEDICINE AND OTHER FORMS OF NATURAL MEDICINE. Almost all drugs are toxic and are designed only to treat symptoms and not to cure anyone. Most surgery is unnecessary. In short, our mainstream medical system is hopelessly inept and/or corrupt. THE TREATMENT OF CANCER AND DEGENERATIVE DISEASES IS A NATIONAL SCANDAL. The sooner you learn this, the better off you will be.
Dr. Allan Greenberg

My studies have proved conclusively that cancer patients who refuse chemotherapy and radiation actually live up to FOUR TIMES LONGER THAN TREATED CASES...Beyond a shadow of a doubt, radical surgery on cancer does more harm than good...As for radiation treatment -- most of the time it makes not the slightest difference whether the machine is turned on or not. ...unfortunately, it seems to be only a question of time, usually, before the disease pops up again all over the body... Every cancer patient who keeps in excellent physical shape may have many good years left. The alternative is to squander those years as an invalid through radical medical intervention, which has zero chance of extending life. ...It's utter nonsense to claim that catching cancer symptoms early enough will increase the patient's chances of survival... Furthermore, untreated breast cancer cases show a life expectancy four times longer than treated ones.
Dr. Hardin Jones, prominent cancer researcher & former physiology professor at the University of California Department of Medical Physics, who has been studying cancer for more than 23 years, travelling the world to collect data on the dreaded disease. Published in Transactions, New York Academy of Science, series 2, v.18, n.3, p. 322.[QUOTE]


Very interesting.... i beleive him.

[Basic_man]

It would be a nice thing if it's true !

[bly]

I wish there was a fucking cure, My Uncle and Grandfather died of Cancer.

[jamesonxx]

i'm not quite sure if that site's reliable

[josian]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Actually the drug mentioned in the article (Laetrile) is legal and used in most countries for the treatment of cancer but not in the US. Why? Because since its main ingredient is Vitamin B17 it cannot be patented by a drug company so no money is spent to research it because its not profitable. Whens the last time anything natural has been approved by the FDA to treat anything?

Im 150% with you!

[MattO]

My ex-girlfriend's Dad got the cancer and went to "homeopathic" and "holistic" type doctors to avoid The Great Medical Conspiracy. Even traveled around the world searching out "alternative therapies". He died broke and in horrible pain. His tumor could have been removed when it was first detected, too, but he didn't believe it.

[L0rdJuni0r]

Originally Posted by MattO

My ex-girlfriend's Dad got the cancer and went to "homeopathic" and "holistic" type doctors to avoid The Great Medical Conspiracy. Even traveled around the world searching out "alternative therapies". He died broke and in horrible pain. His tumor could have been removed when it was first detected, too, but he didn't believe it.

i'm sorry to hear that
my grandmother died the same way. it really sucks.

[The Sultan Of Smut]

Thanks for the link it was an interesting read. While I'm sure a treatment for cancer is more involved than simply eating a few almonds a day the article has definitely peeked my interest. I think I will do little more research on this

I don't know if there's a big conspiracy to cover up a cure but I have no doubt that some good research has been trampled by larger coporations that are marketing expensive 'treatments' for cancer. The Surgeon General of the US "declared war" on cancer a half century ago and there has been jack shit for progress made. I'm not talking about extending someone's suffering existence but actual progress in treating the various forms of the disease. I would find a chart showing the abysmal increase in the rate of cancer in the last 50 years but don't feel like looking for a picture for you all.

[notjoe]

It's quite simple to grasp. I'll Explain it in two words...

Population Control


The world cant sustain the current rate of growth of the human population. It'll have to level off one way or another whether its through gov't enforcement or die from disease.

It would explain why everything is meant to treat something rather than curing it, why there is no rush to cure anything, and why other countries havent come fourth, and a lot more.

[Verbal]

Does this mean that I can start smoking again?

[Thomas N]

Do you guys remember the big hype about 2 or 3 years ago probably, when researchers working with endostatins cured 100% of cancers in mice? It was being heralded as "the cure" and other researchers were saying the lead guy with those endostatins would have human cancer defeated within one year.

It was very interesting at the time, although the hype around it seems to have died some and it seems tough to really find out what happened/is happening with the endostatins approach.

BUT, what is REALLY interesting when this first came to light, was what one leading cancer doctor "expert" said. Note this was within one or two days of the major story about endostatins totally curing cancer in mice. This guy said, loose quote "even if these new endostatins work in humans, they will just be one more weapon in fighting cancer and will still be used alongside traditional treatments such as chemotherapy and radiation." I mean, this guy said that, in national press. He came right out and said, probably not realizing what he was actually admitting to, that even if a miracle pill came down the pike that totally cured cancer, they would find a way to just work it into the mix with chemo/radiation/other archaic methods of treating the cancer.

[Thomas N]

Oh and I was also saying just the other day, how funny it is the astronomical "god complex" that most doctors have, yet they can't even cure or reduce the common cold.

[Dragon Curve]

I think the point he may have been making was that there will probably NEVER be an all-powerful "cure cancer" pill. The same way other viruses/diseases/etc. have become immune to certain things.

There are forms of tonsilitis that is completely resilient to penicillin, which works wonders against it usually.

His point was, that it will aid in the fight against cancer but it will most likely not be the single cure for cancer.

[Sophmaster]

They suggest to eat food who have vitamin B-17 in it ... Ok ! but what kind of vegetables or other things contains that vitamin ? Nobody knows ... LOL !

[wargames]

that stuff don't look very reliable

[darnit]

http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery.../laetrile.html

"In July 1980, the NCI (National Cancer Institute) undertook clinical trials of 178 cancer patients who received Laetrile, vitamins and enzymes at the Mayo Clinic and three other prominent cancer centers. The study included patients for whom no other treatment had been effective or for whom no proven treatment was known. All patients had tumor masses that could easily be measured, but most of the patients were in good physical condition. Since Laetrile proponents were unable to agree on the formula or testing protocol for Laetrile, NCI decided to use a preparation that corresponded to the substance distributed by the major Mexican supplier, American Biologics. The preparation was supplied by the NCI Pharmaceutical Resources Branch and verified by a variety of tests. The dosage of Laetrile was based on the published recommendations of Krebs, Jr., and the Bradford Foundation.

The results of the trial were clear-cut. Not one patient was cured or even stabilized. The median survival rate was 4.8 months from the start of therapy, and in those still alive after seven months, tumor size had increased. This was the expected result for patients receiving no treatment at all. In addition, several patients experienced symptoms of cyanide toxicity or had blood levels of cyanide approaching the lethal range"


I wish it was as simple as eating apricot pits I really do but cancer is an incredibly complicated and formidable foe

[Nembrionic]

Originally Posted by Sophmaster

They suggest to eat food who have vitamin B-17 in it ... Ok ! but what kind of vegetables or other things contains that vitamin ? Nobody knows ... LOL !

Oh yes..it is SOOOO hard to use Google nowadays

http://www.cancure.org/laetrile.htm

In addition, there are many foods that contain Vitamin B17. These include: Apple seeds, alfalfa sprouts, apricot kernels, bamboo shoots, barley, beet tops, bitter almond, blackberries, boysenberries, brewer?s yeast, brown rice, buckwheat, cashews, cherry kernels, cranberries, currants, fava beans, flax seeds, garbanzo beans, gooseberries, huckleberries, lentils, lima beans, linseed meat, loganberries, macadamia nuts, millet, millet seed, peach kernels, pecans, plum kernels, quince, raspberries, sorghum cane syrup, spinach, sprouts (alfalfa, lentil, mung bean, buckwheat, garbanzo), strawberries, walnuts, watercress, yams.


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...q=vitamin+B-17


-edit- I see apple seeds in there. Wouldn't recommend eating a cup or 2 of those ones. It'll cure you're cancer for sure

[klinton]

when I was doing a lot psychedelics, I thought that I am close to discover cure for cancer, but I was afraid, that I will go insane completely ;p.
the truth about cancer is that it's mother nature's voice (something is wrong with you/your life style), and instant cure doesn't solve problems with it, because it depends of on healthy living..these are the reasons for cancer...However western consumptionic culture wants only instant cures to all illnesses and promote at the same way not always healthy life styles..so people are often paying what lifes they are living in....
Cancer is a very sad and painfull illness, and I feel sorry for all people touched with it/their friends&families..

[MCP_Cristina]

I really hope this is true, My Primary Videographer is a leukemia patient, and I'd love to break this good news!!

[reynold]

so is that supposed to be a cure or a preventive meassure?