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  • Relish XXX
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    • Dec 2004
    • 4904

    #1

    Will porn in America be a dead industry due to the government?

    With increasingly demanding regulations being put on the American porn industry from the Visa regs to 2257 to .xxx will porn eventually die out in the US and everything be run offshore? I am not talking about company headquarters but more hosting, cc processing, content production etc?

    No other country in the world is imposing these insane regulations.

    Will porn eventually move out of America?
    69
    Yes, the government will push it off Ameican shores
    0%
    16
    No,it is an industry that employs thousands of people and generates tax revenue
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    41
    I am not really sure
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    12

  • After Shock Media
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    • Mar 2001
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    #2
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    • jawanda
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      • Feb 2003
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      #3
      Of course it will be, there is no money in porn anyway.

      ;)

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      • Spunky
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        • Jun 2002
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        #4
        Hardly..the successful companies will adjust like always

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        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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          • Mar 2003
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          #5
          No the industry will kill itself first making it 100% free.

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          • Relish XXX
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            • Dec 2004
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            #6
            Originally posted by spunky
            Hardly..the successful companies will adjust like always
            Will it will become unconomically viable to adjust? Saying the government forced hosting companies to charge more to porn companies than normal clients or even banned hosting companies from taking adult clients?

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            • Spunky
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              • Jun 2002
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              #7
              Originally posted by Relish XXX
              Will it will become unconomically viable to adjust? Saying the government forced hosting companies to charge more to porn companies than normal clients or even banned hosting companies from taking adult clients?
              Well if that did happen..the user would have to probably pay more to recover the increase..Hosting companies would probably start going offshore?

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              • Relish XXX
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                • Dec 2004
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                #8
                Originally posted by spunky
                Well if that did happen..the user would have to probably pay more to recover the increase..Hosting companies would probably start going offshore?
                The companies would move offshore to instead of increasing prices in this ever more competitive industry.

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                • KRL
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                  • ry0t
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                    • Feb 2003
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                    #10
                    If that happens Im moving to where you live.

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                    • Relish XXX
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                      • Dec 2004
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by KRL
                      As long as there is demand for a product or service there is always a way to deliver it.
                      But do you think that it will become uneconomically viable for the delivery to come from the US?

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                      • Veterans Day
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                        • Jul 2003
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by AlienQ
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                        • crowkid
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                          • Jan 2003
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                          #13
                          Those of you that voted yes you think it will be taken out by the gov. are fairly naive. That's like saying that the government would get rid of oil companies. Porn makes more money than Hollywood, come on wake the fuck up. The most the government will do is make these gay 2257 type regulations to make the public think they are trying to protect children.

                          You're either a tad naive or you are so blinded for your hatred of the U.S. Government you have lost your common sense.

                          Now that's my two

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                          • pornguy
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                            • Mar 2003
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                            #14
                            The government does not care how many people they put out of work. They have their minds set on what they want.
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                            • jawanda
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Relish XXX
                              Will it will become unconomically viable to adjust? Saying the government forced hosting companies to charge more to porn companies than normal clients or even banned hosting companies from taking adult clients?

                              If this happens then we will have MUCH bigger problems in the US than just the lack of (online) porn.

                              Talk about a large-scale obstruction of people's First Amendment rights...

                              I pray that we are not truly headed in that direction.

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                              • Mr. Pat
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                                • Jul 2004
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by jawanda
                                If this happens then we will have MUCH bigger problems in the US than just the lack of (online) porn.

                                Talk about a large-scale obstruction of people's First Amendment rights...

                                I pray that we are not truly headed in that direction.
                                agreed..... the attack on porn is an attack against the FIRST AMENDMENT. it has nothing to do with children or underage or any of that shit. I've said it before and i'll say it again...if they get away with this,then next, perhaps we'll have to register to say anything against the shrubites.
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                                • bdld
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                                  • Dec 2001
                                  • 11452

                                  #17
                                  the game will change, the players will change, but its not going away.

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                                  • CynthiaB
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                                    • Mar 2005
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                                    #18
                                    The more they regulate it the more people will want it. Remember what we learned from prohibition?

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                                    • Axzar
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                                      • Feb 2003
                                      • 1837

                                      #19
                                      As long as there are penises, there will be porn.

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                                      • Barefootsies
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                                        • Feb 2005
                                        • 42635

                                        #20
                                        Nah. They'll never get rid of it. Not when you have the San Fernando Valley, and Larry Flynt in da house. The genie's already been let out of the bottle, and it's not going away, especially as much money as it makes annually.

                                        You will probably see a lot of the small fries vanish, but that's been happening since the late 90's, early 2000's. More people will either take their ball and go home, or step up to the plate.

                                        I think what you WILL see is a lot of online/porn starting to merge. Much like the rest of Amercia where you have media companies merging, and partnering. I think if you do not have a network of site's built in the next year or so, you will be frozen out of the biz by the big boys (and girls) with their double barrel marketing, and promotion networks.

                                        I think we've all seen the porn getting diluted. By that I mean, remember in the late 90's when they expanded ML Baseball, and they were talking about how all of the expansion hurt the game because they had more teams, but less quality player (especially pitchers). Well I think that's where we are now. You have a lot of porn peddlers, but the QUALITY has fallen off. So sure, you can find porn all over the place, but QUALITY porns something else.

                                        Here's another quick example.. I was looking to replace a feed on one of my sites. I'd used a plugin HQ image gallery for 2-3 years, and all was fine and dandy til I started getting e-mail complaints about the feed. So I figured I would shop around. Well I looked at 3-4 dozen different companies, and you know what.. a lot of them had the SAME EXACT content, just different interfaces, and design layout. Worse than that, a lot of it was just video, and vidcaps. Some of the others offered very little, and were asking 3 times the price I had been paying.

                                        So the net's a big place, and sure, room for a lot of players, but the quality is what's taking the hit. You do not see the Matrix, Lightspeed, and number of other HQ providers as predominantly as you see a lot of reruns, and crap. Or I should say, they stand out like kings by comparison.

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                                        • SirTreX
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                                          • Dec 2001
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                                          #21
                                          it will not move out of America, as America is making money of it too.

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                                          • Webby
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                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 14956

                                            #22
                                            Na.. It will be there long after Bush rots away under 6 foot of Texas dirt. But kinda obvious other continents will pick up more activity in the meantime and also suspect there will shippers in moving some US companies out of US jurisdiction.
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                                            • uno
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                                              • Dec 2002
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                                              #23
                                              "They" 'll certainly try. They will never rid this country of porn. They'll try to regulate, tax to death, and give all kinds of other disincentives. Point blank is it makes too much money. It's a multi billion dollar a year industry. They'd lose out on the tax revenue as well as money generally being recirculated into the economy. I'm sure the gov't would just love billions a year going to france and other porn friendly countries.
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                                              • Webby
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                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 14956

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by uno
                                                "They" 'll certainly try. They will never rid this country of porn. They'll try to regulate, tax to death, and give all kinds of other disincentives. Point blank is it makes too much money. It's a multi billion dollar a year industry. They'd lose out on the tax revenue as well as money generally being recirculated into the economy. I'm sure the gov't would just love billions a year going to france and other porn friendly countries.
                                                Don't think it matters much whether it's a billion dollar industry or not when a govt has nada clue about economics or fiscal policy in the first place - they never fail to shoot themselves in the foot.

                                                Basically the same will happen to any country that ends up "unfavorable" to porn - folks just walk with their feet and move to friendlier locations - there are plenty to choose from.

                                                BTW.. what's tax? This something used to hold carpeting down? :-)
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                                                • uno
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                                                  • Dec 2002
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Webby
                                                  Don't think it matters much whether it's a billion dollar industry or not when a govt has nada clue about economics or fiscal policy in the first place - they never fail to shoot themselves in the foot.

                                                  Basically the same will happen to any country that ends up "unfavorable" to porn - folks just walk with their feet and move to friendlier locations - there are plenty to choose from.

                                                  BTW.. what's tax? This something used to hold carpeting down? :-)
                                                  LOL as a guy who does sales for a merchant services company I understand that. Let's see how long a ban lasts on porn after the closeted repub porn freaks can't get their fix of the newest light speed girl. It's not something they CAN do as its already been ruled against. Case precidence man. They can try but it will and should be shot down by either an appellate court or the Supremes.
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                                                  • theFeTiShLaDy
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                                                    • Jun 2004
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                                                    #26
                                                    i think it won't happen because there are lots of adult webmasters who will fight for it.
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                                                    • solonline
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                                                      • Jan 2003
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                                                      #27
                                                      no way - wont happen, look at each time something has been banned or heavily regulated - booze - gambling - the industry will always find a way.

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                                                      • Webby
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                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 14956

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by uno
                                                        LOL as a guy who does sales for a merchant services company I understand that. Let's see how long a ban lasts on porn after the closeted repub porn freaks can't get their fix of the newest light speed girl. It's not something they CAN do as its already been ruled against. Case precidence man. They can try but it will and should be shot down by either an appellate court or the Supremes.
                                                        Yea.. smell it may well be a matter of being shot down. The arguements for child protection/killing CP have got to be the weakest load of trash ever written.

                                                        This concern for children is amazingly hypocritical since it offering nothing more for children and since the inception of the original 2257 they have never got off there asses once and instigated any action under this code - the track record sums up the "concern for children".

                                                        It's little more than a book-keeping/record-keeping exercise to log details of 30 something MILF's with big tits who are clearly well over 18. You may recognize a 30 year old MILF - I may recognize a 30 year old MILF, - but the legislature obvious does not. And law enforcement will be too busy looking at her tits to notice much else - so what hope :-)

                                                        Weirdest of the lot is there is a jail sentence for "failing to keep records" - ie.. not that there need to be any CP, - the "crime" is failing to keep records :-)
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                                                        • Ron Bennett
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                                                          • Oct 2003
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                                                          #29
                                                          A good parallel here is to think of the on-line gambling industry - multibillion dollar industry and yet is illegal in most instances in the U.S.

                                                          Thus where are most on-line gambling businesses located? ... yep, off-shore!

                                                          The same could quite easily happen with much of the adult business; already it has to some extent - many U.S. based on-line adult companies (including some big ones) have long since off-loaded their domain name registrations, hosting, shoots, etc to off-shore entities.

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                                                          • Webby
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                                                            • Oct 2002
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Ron Bennett
                                                            A good parallel here is to think of the on-line gambling industry - multibillion dollar industry and yet is illegal in most instances in the U.S.

                                                            Thus where are most on-line gambling businesses located? ... yep, off-shore!

                                                            The same could quite easily happen with much of the adult business; already it has to some extent - many U.S. based on-line adult companies (including some big ones) have long since off-loaded their domain name registrations, hosting, shoots, etc to off-shore entities.

                                                            Ron
                                                            Agree Ron! Would also add the gambling if not necessarily offshore now - there are fair numbers "onshore" and being hosted in.. eg Europe with servers in the UK and other countries where there is no problem with gambling.

                                                            Currently several Vegas operations are/have established casinos in *favorable" countries such as the Gibraltar, UK etc.

                                                            Within the last six months the govt of Antigua won a WTO case against the US for "unfair trade practices" re gambling (tho the DOJ is attempting an appeal).

                                                            Bottom line is the US just shot itself in the foot again by restricting gambling (tho the may have their reasons) - other countries have taken up the slack and the tax revenues.
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                                                            • SinisterStudios
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                                                              • Nov 2003
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Relish XXX
                                                              Will it will become unconomically viable to adjust? Saying the government forced hosting companies to charge more to porn companies than normal clients or even banned hosting companies from taking adult clients?
                                                              HAHA thats too funny, if the government ever told us we had to charge people more to host porn id laugh in their faces. The bush administration will push and push but once they actually get into court and loose they will back off.
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