Time Travel is Possible....scientific proof!!!

[Meta Ridley]

Get in an airplane or spaceship and go really fast for a while.
Time will slow down for you and when you land you will be in everyones future.
If you and your twin sibling were exactly the same age when you took off, then when you land you will be younger.

don't believe me? Read a book on astrophysics.



Want to ponder on something in the meantime?

If you're sitting alone in the blackness of space, just floating 'completely still', and someone comes moving toward you at a constant rate, and you pass, how do you know who was moving, or at what speed if they also said they were 'completely still'?

[KRL]

Yes I think we've all seen Planet of Apes.

[dropped9]

for some reason i think I might of went back in time to this thread again..

[Fetish]

Interesting stuff

[MarkTiarra]

Check out the Elegant Universe. You'll never be the same:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846

[ModelPerfect]

It's all relative!

[foxylady]

very interesting, if it's true i want to time travel

[ModelPerfect]

Originally Posted by foxylady

very interesting, if it's true i want to time travel

It is true, but you would have to travel close to the speed of light to realize a big difference...and it's just a one way trip.

[Meta Ridley]

Originally Posted by ModelPerfect

It is true, but you would have to travel close to the speed of light to realize a big difference...and it's just a one way trip.

Yes to 'really' notice the difference. But, they have done test with atomic clocks in airplanes and i think tall bulidings to prove this point.

[stereolab]

how come we haven't been visited from the future?

[ModelPerfect]

Originally Posted by Meta Ridley

Yes to 'really' notice the difference. But, they have done test with atomic clocks in airplanes and i think tall bulidings to prove this point.

Yes, they have. But the difference between the atomic clock on the plane versus the stationary one was microseconds. So I'd rather just hang out here to see the future. But, if I remember the calculation right, if you're traveling at .9C for just 1 year, your stationary twin would have aged around 50 years. I have the formula somewhere, but it would be a nightmare to find in storage.

[Meta Ridley]

Originally Posted by stereolab

how come we haven't been visited from the future?

Read again,, thats not how it works.

[Meta Ridley]

Originally Posted by ModelPerfect

Yes, they have. But the difference between the atomic clock on the plane versus the stationary one was microseconds. So I'd rather just hang out here to see the future. But, if I remember the calculation right, if you're traveling at .9C for just 1 year, your stationary twin would have aged around 50 years. I have the formula somewhere, but it would be a nightmare to find in storage.

Sounds rite to me from what I remember.
There was sometinhg I once read about draggin wormholes around on order to timetravel,, it was a theory. Let me know if youve heard it.

[Meta Ridley]

Originally Posted by Meta Ridley

Sounds rite to me from what I remember.
There was sometinhg I once read about draggin wormholes around on order to timetravel,, it was a theory. Let me know if youve heard it.

Google's my friend. Found it:

If wormholes could be discovered, it might allow us to travel to the past as well as the future. Here's how it would work: Let's say the mouth of the wormhole is portable. Then person B, who traveled at 50 percent of light speed into space for a few hours, could carry one wormhole mouth into space, while the mouth at the opposite end of the wormhole would stay with person A on Earth. The two people would continue to see one another as person B traveled into space. When person B returned to Earth a few hours later, a few years may have passed for person A. Now, when person A looks through the wormhole that traveled into space, that person will see him or herself at a younger age, the age he or she was when person B launched into space. The cool thing about it is that the older person A would be able to step into the past by entering the wormhole, while the younger person B could step into the future.

[stereolab]

Originally Posted by Meta Ridley

Read again,, thats not how it works.

i can see 'going forward' by taking a break from this world, getting on a ship and moving close to the speed of light for some time, then coming back here in this temporal dimension. thousands of years pass, but only like 20 years pass for the light speed guy (no pun intended). but how does one go 'backward'?

[Meta Ridley]

Originally Posted by stereolab

i can see 'going forward' by taking a break from this world, getting on a ship and moving close to the speed of light for some time, then coming back here in this temporal dimension. thousands of years pass, but only like 20 years pass for the light speed guy (no pun intended). but how does one go 'backward'?

It doesnt, but read the wormhole theory above. It explains backwards.

[MarkTiarra]

Originally Posted by ModelPerfect

It is true, but you would have to travel close to the speed of light to realize a big difference...and it's just a one way trip.

Actually no - you could also go in a circle very fast (ala particle accelerators). It's been proven numerous times that the effect is real and when you study the reasons why it's actually not all that mysterious or weird. It's just not within our everyday experiences (which is true of most science from the early 1900s on) so it seems like mystical hoohaaa.

Essentially though it helps to think of time and space as being one multidimensional thing rather than seperate entities. To use an analogy:

You can think of space as directions, north, south, etc... (forget up and down for this example). The more directly you travel north, the less you are traveling in any other direction. You could be going NE and be 50% north and 50% east. You go straight north and you end up 100% north and 0% east (or any other direction).

The same works with SPACETIME when you see it as one entity. The more you are traveling through space (faster), the less you are traveling through time.

[stereolab]

Originally Posted by Meta Ridley

It doesnt, but read the wormhole theory above. It explains backwards.

that requires the assumption that every moment and every possible option - both past and future - exists in perpetuity in some sort of multiverse.

[Meta Ridley]

Originally Posted by stereolab

that requires the assumption that every moment and every possible option - both past and future - exists in perpetuity in some sort of multiverse.

It does.

[Nicky]

I only need to go back 1 week to play on all the lotto numbers and stuff like that

[ModelPerfect]

Originally Posted by MarkTiarra

Actually no - you could also go in a circle very fast (ala particle accelerators). It's been proven numerous times that the effect is real and when you study the reasons why it's actually not all that mysterious or weird. It's just not within our everyday experiences (which is true of most science from the early 1900s on) so it seems like mystical hoohaaa.

Essentially though it helps to think of time and space as being one multidimensional thing rather than seperate entities. To use an analogy:

You can think of space as directions, north, south, etc... (forget up and down for this example). The more directly you travel north, the less you are traveling in any other direction. You could be going NE and be 50% north and 50% east. You go straight north and you end up 100% north and 0% east (or any other direction).

The same works with SPACETIME when you see it as one entity. The more you are traveling through space (faster), the less you are traveling through time.

I'm just saying the "Twin Paradox" by itself only works one way. They've shown that particles can go faster than the speed of light and theorize they've traveled back in time, but because of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle, you can't measure and observe at the same time (i.e. position and velocity cannot be measured exactly at the same time). That makes quanitification very difficult.

[Nismo]

HELLO JOHN TITER, WE MEET AGAIN

[axelcat]

Originally Posted by KRL

Yes I think we've all seen Planet of Apes.

[TTiger]

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html