who here belives in life after death?

[ffmihai]

or even in reincarnation? i dont believe in such things. so thats why we should live our lives as high as possible!

[Relish XXX]

Originally Posted by ffmihai

so thats why we should live our lives as high as possible!

I am with you bro...living for the moment!

[KRL]

"Energy can not be created or destroyed only transformed."

[ffmihai]

Originally Posted by KRL

"Energy can not be created or destroyed only transformed."

so we transform ourselves in ashes and worms!

[Roby]

I belive in this and i think it is truth really ...

[michel]

no reincarnation, just heaven and hell

[KRL]

Originally Posted by ffmihai

so we transform ourselves in ashes and worms!

Your physical body is the only thing that dies. The soul goes on.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by KRL

Your physical body is the only thing that dies. The soul goes on.

Goes on where?

I hope you dont believe in a heavan or hell. There are so many obvious reasons as to why there is no such thing.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by ffmihai

or even in reincarnation? i dont believe in such things. so thats why we should live our lives as high as possible!

I'm all about life before death

[jonpotz]

you die, you become maggot food.

[Furious_Male]

This thread has the potential to get huge.

I personaly don't know what to believe. To be honest that bothers me.

[Babagirls]

Originally Posted by Alex

Goes on where?

I hope you dont believe in a heavan or hell. There are so many obvious reasons as to why there is no such thing.

wether or not theres a heaven or hell, we'll never know (till we die).
i seem to think that from ghost encouter storys (and a couple of my own ghost encounters) that the souls just live on earth with us, but without a body.

just kinda doin our own thing on earth, but just invisable.

[Head]

I do. Can't see us all just go pass into a state of 'nothingness'.

[Furious_Male]

Originally Posted by Babagirls

wether or not theres a heaven or hell, we'll never know (till we die).
i seem to think that from ghost encouter storys (and a couple of my own ghost encounters) that the souls just live on earth with us, but without a body.

just kinda doin our own thing on earth, but just invisable.

Perhaps as a form of energy? I lean that way in thinking.

[Jakke PNG]

Kinda hard to say. I haven't died yet, I think.
We might have a soul that carries on to the next world, or we might be wormfood. Why worry, it's inevitable anyways and we'll see what's out there if anything.

[ffmihai]

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

Kinda hard to say. I haven't died yet, I think.
We might have a soul that carries on to the next world, or we might be wormfood. Why worry, it's inevitable anyways and we'll see what's out there if anything.

well, of course we will see but untill then what? we live as it is the last day of our lives? thats what i mean i guess. live today like is the last day of my life?

[Babagirls]

Originally Posted by Furious_Male

Perhaps as a form of energy? I lean that way in thinking.

perhaps. if you think about it, every person is very unique and different, with different personalitys. i think our personalitys are actually our souls.

you ever see a baby that is being funny & smiling away and funny? or a baby that never smiles or crys, just kinda "chills"? thats the begining of their personality. thats not taught, its given to us when we're born.

i think thats the part of us that lives on after our bodys (our "shells" for our souls) dies.

[jonpotz]

Originally Posted by Babagirls

perhaps. if you think about it, every person is very unique and different, with different personalitys. i think our personalitys are actually our souls.

you ever see a baby that is being funny & smiling away and funny? or a baby that never smiles or crys, just kinda "chills"? thats the begining of their personality. thats not taught, its given to us when we're born.

i think thats the part of us that lives on after our bodys (our "shells" for our souls) dies.

scary thought...

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Babagirls

wether or not theres a heaven or hell, we'll never know (till we die).
i seem to think that from ghost encouter storys (and a couple of my own ghost encounters) that the souls just live on earth with us, but without a body.

just kinda doin our own thing on earth, but just invisable.

Do you know how many people have died from the beggining of time up till now. There would be more "ghosts" that humans if "the souls just live on earth with us, but without a body. "

Every single person in the world would go through a "ghost encouter".

There are no such things as ghosts. Its just paranoia. If you tell someone this house is haunted with ghosts they will go in it expecting and hoping to "see" one that they trick themselves into believing that they do.

[lucwylder]

I truly believe we need to enjoy each moment. I've never been visited by any of my dead friends & we were close. My new philosophy, "May you live every day of your life".

Later, Luc Wylder

[Babagirls]

Originally Posted by Alex

Do you know how many people have died from the beggining of time up till now. There would be more "ghosts" that humans if "the souls just live on earth with us, but without a body. "

Every single person in the world would go through a "ghost encouter".

There are no such things as ghosts. Its just paranoia. If you tell someone this house is haunted with ghosts they will go in it expecting and hoping to "see" one that they trick themselves into believing that they do.

i didnt say i know all the answers, just expressing my thoughts lol you do make a good point of souls on earth though.

and about ghosts not being real, let me tell you a little story that happend to me about 2-3 yrs ago:

i was staying with my grandparents at the time (was living there for about a year or so when this happend).

One morning, i felt something/someone climb on my bed but i always locked my door at nights (it was an old door, and the only way to close it was by locking it), so i slowly opened up my eyes and i saw this woman (beautiful woman!!) in a white & pink Victorian gown, leaning over me with puzzled eyes ..as if to say "Who are you??"

of course, i freaked the fuck out, screamed at the top of my lungs, she looked so damn real, i thought she was REALLY there! after i stopped screaming, she was gone. vanished. disappeared.

so, i got out of bed, went downstairs and started makin some coffee. told my grandmother (that i woke up from my screaming) what happened, she told me shes seen the ghost before as well, but its been awhile since she has seen her. (probably why the ghost looked at me in the "who are you?" kinda way, last time she was there, i wasnt living there.)

anyways, i tried to find out how old her house was (i knew it was really old, but was curious if it could have been in the Victorian time period). The house was built in 1870. The Victorian time period was between 1837 -1901.

Definatly makes a person think.

[Furious_Male]

Well forms of energy just wouldn't have to be on earth. It is a vast universe. There is so much we don't know.

Nice mind fuck for a Sunday morning hangover.

[Jakke PNG]

Originally Posted by ffmihai

well, of course we will see but untill then what? we live as it is the last day of our lives? thats what i mean i guess. live today like is the last day of my life?

I don't live my life like every day is the last day of my life. I'd be broke tomorrow morning.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Babagirls

i didnt say i know all the answers, just expressing my thoughts lol you do make a good point of souls on earth though.

and about ghosts not being real, let me tell you a little story that happend to me about 2-3 yrs ago:

i was staying with my grandparents at the time (was living there for about a year or so when this happend).

One morning, i felt something/someone climb on my bed but i always locked my door at nights (it was an old door, and the only way to close it was by locking it), so i slowly opened up my eyes and i saw this woman (beautiful woman!!) in a white & pink Victorian gown, leaning over me with puzzled eyes ..as if to say "Who are you??"

of course, i freaked the fuck out, screamed at the top of my lungs, she looked so damn real, i thought she was REALLY there! after i stopped screaming, she was gone. vanished. disappeared.

so, i got out of bed, went downstairs and started makin some coffee. told my grandmother (that i woke up from my screaming) what happened, she told me shes seen the ghost before as well, but its been awhile since she has seen her. (probably why the ghost looked at me in the "who are you?" kinda way, last time she was there, i wasnt living there.)

anyways, i tried to find out how old her house was (i knew it was really old, but was curious if it could have been in the Victorian time period). The house was built in 1870. The Victorian time period was between 1837 -1901.

Definatly makes a person think.

Doesnt make me think at all. Im not saying you made that up, but i still dont beleive in ghosts or souls staying afterwards. Becuase as i said, the world would be infested with them if they were real. In all ghost stories/encounters its usually always been the formor residents of a place and something bad happend to them so they stay back and haunt the place. But where do the other "ghosts" go to.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by KRL

"Energy can not be created or destroyed only transformed."

That is the only point that i have ever thought of. But there is an explanation that doesnt invlove our souls going on to haunt the world.

From
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives...4125.Ph.r.html

As a result when we die, most of our atoms will be recycled in a sense and they will be part of future humans, plants, animals, or just flow in rivers for that matter

[sean416]

The reason why I dont beleive in ghosts or that souls and spirits remain on earth is we'd have to be pretty ignorant to beleive only human souls stay here. What about ants? what about dogs? what about dolphins? What about dinosaurs? I'm pretty sure that soemtime in the future (not in our lifetime) we will know exactly how everything works. Untill then, dont kid yourself and think there's some higher meaning to life. Beleive in karma (not as some scientific fact), live your life and try and enjoy it while it lasts.

[tgpmakers]

I believe when you die you are suddenly in a place where time doesn't matter. So in that case we might find that everyone else that hasn't died will be there as well the place will be after averyone dies. So when you die you lye in a state of nothing until the end of our time. This will seem like nothing to you until we all rise again.

Something in the bible says about when we rise again even though I did not get this from the bible.

[Screaming]

i kinda feel like my daughter has been here before, cause its like i dont teach her i just remind her, i only have to show her once if i even have to show her, really weird sometimes, i mean she starts up the laptop to watch a dvd and the dvd player as well when she wants to watch dora the explorer and she is only 18 months old

[Dirty F]

Didnt we have this same thread 2 weeks ago?

[polish_aristocrat]

I HOPE it exists

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by KRL

Your physical body is the only thing that dies. The soul goes on.

How do you explain that your soul needs a brain to function? Your brain is gone when youre dead...you will have no such thing as a stand alone soul let alone a conscious. Stop hoping dude, its a waste of time. You will die and thats it.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by sean416

The reason why I dont beleive in ghosts or that souls and spirits remain on earth is we'd have to be pretty ignorant to beleive only human souls stay here. What about ants? what about dogs? what about dolphins? What about dinosaurs? I'm pretty sure that soemtime in the future (not in our lifetime) we will know exactly how everything works. Untill then, dont kid yourself and think there's some higher meaning to life. Beleive in karma (not as some scientific fact), live your life and try and enjoy it while it lasts.

Exactly...very good point and i thought about this myself.

It will be ignored though. These people who believe in all that crap dont wanna be bugged with facts and things that could prove them wrong...they are scared and clueless and hope there is more so it makes their miserable life a bit better.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by Screaming

i kinda feel like my daughter has been here before, cause its like i dont teach her i just remind her, i only have to show her once if i even have to show her, really weird sometimes, i mean she starts up the laptop to watch a dvd and the dvd player as well when she wants to watch dora the explorer and she is only 18 months old

Because she can turn on a dvd player you think she had a life before this life.

Omggggggg


I hate people.

I honestly do.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by Babagirls

perhaps. if you think about it, every person is very unique and different, with different personalitys. i think our personalitys are actually our souls.

you ever see a baby that is being funny & smiling away and funny? or a baby that never smiles or crys, just kinda "chills"? thats the begining of their personality. thats not taught, its given to us when we're born.

i think thats the part of us that lives on after our bodys (our "shells" for our souls) dies.

There is no soul after you die because the soul you have now, your conscious and everything you use to think and be is controlled by your brain and as you might know your brain dies when you die.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by Babagirls

One morning, i felt something/someone climb on my bed but i always locked my door at nights (it was an old door, and the only way to close it was by locking it), so i slowly opened up my eyes and i saw this woman (beautiful woman!!) in a white & pink Victorian gown, leaning over me with puzzled eyes ..as if to say "Who are you??"

Sorry to burst your bubble but you were sleeping and having a very very vivid dream. There are many sleeping stages including being awake while actually sleeping and stuff like that.
No honestly, give it up, you didnt see a ghost.

You honestly think that when you die you come back, looking as a human, wearing clothes?????? The sould of the clothes died as well and came back as a clothes coul or what??? hahahaha Please, you are a fully grown sane person, how can you think stuff like this???

Omg...people are so fucked up.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by Franck

How do you explain that your soul needs a brain to function? Your brain is gone when youre dead...you will have no such thing as a stand alone soul let alone a conscious. Stop hoping dude, its a waste of time. You will die and thats it.

Your soul needs a brain to function?? What the hell are you talking about? I firmly believe people that choose to think we die and thats it do it out of fear of their own fuckups. Afterall who wants to believe they will be held responsible for their actions.

[Spunky]

I do actually..I wanna be an eaagle and fly around scooping salmons

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by Alex

Doesnt make me think at all. Im not saying you made that up, but i still dont beleive in ghosts or souls staying afterwards. Becuase as i said, the world would be infested with them if they were real. In all ghost stories/encounters its usually always been the formor residents of a place and something bad happend to them so they stay back and haunt the place. But where do the other "ghosts" go to.

There would have to be billions of ghosts, actually way more including animal ghosts...there would have to be dinosaur ghosts even. And as of today there is not 1 piece of scientific evidence for it...NOTHING, zero...absolutely nothing. Yet there is tons of evidence of why people think they see or hear or feel ghosts...there so many good reasons what can cause this and its so explainable. But once again, its ignored by the ghost freaks. The live in their sad little world just hoping and hoping.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Your soul needs a brain to function?? What the hell are you talking about?

I just heard that somewhere sometime...
Just ignore it, its probably not true....

Let me guess, you also believe in God.

[CDSmith]

Hey, here's a thought.... why not let people believe the way they want to believe and STFU about trying to make everyone think the way you do. Sound good? It sure does to me.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by Franck

I just heard that somewhere sometime...
Just ignore it, its probably not true....

Let me guess, you also believe in God.

And if I do is that a problem for you? Really hard for me to have a serious discussion about this with someone who's only thoughts on the subject come from 'stuff you heard'.

[Jakke PNG]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Hey, here's a thought.... why not let people believe the way they want to believe and STFU about trying to make everyone think the way you do. Sound good? It sure does to me.

No, no, no. You dumb fuck.
The more people believe like I do, the more likely it is going to be true. Right?

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

No, no, no. You dumb fuck.
The more people believe like I do, the more likely it is going to be true. Right?

Damn, you're right, I AM a dumb fuck.

Quick, tell me what you believe so I know what to believe.

I hope your beliefs are cool, I wanna be cool 2 :D

[ffmihai]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Damn, you're right, I AM a dumb fuck.

Quick, tell me what you believe so I know what to believe.

I hope your beliefs are cool, I wanna be cool 2 :D

TGF is sexy

[Jakke PNG]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Damn, you're right, I AM a dumb fuck.

Quick, tell me what you believe so I know what to believe.

I hope your beliefs are cool, I wanna be cool 2 :D

I don't know. I should probably turn on the tv and get some influences.
I'll let you know after some cool documentary or something.

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

I don't know. I should probably turn on the tv and get some influences.
I'll let you know after some cool documentary or something.

Ahh it's Sunday, there's nothin' but religious crap on TV.

[ThunderBalls]

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by sean416

The reason why I dont beleive in ghosts or that souls and spirits remain on earth is we'd have to be pretty ignorant to beleive only human souls stay here. What about ants? what about dogs?

What sort of heartless monster doesn't beleive in doggy heaven?

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

And if I do is that a problem for you? Really hard for me to have a serious discussion about this with someone who's only thoughts on the subject come from 'stuff you heard'.

That was a joke ofcourse. Its common knowledge + scientifically proven that you need a brain to function and think and feel and have a consiousness. (=your soul).

Dont tell me you are actually ignoring that. That would be slightly retarded.

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by Franck

That was a joke ofcourse. Its common knowledge + scientifically proven that you need a brain to function and think and feel and have a consiousness. (=your soul).

Dont tell me you are actually ignoring that. That would be slightly retarded.

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