wow cause the courts have nothing else to do but send spammers to prison for nine years

Exactly, so SPAM *IS* legal.
You are right, if you were to start mass mailing with can-spam requirements, you'd get blocked, however there are a lot of ISPS not blocking legit, legal, can-spam emails. LARS is one example of an adult business doing it legally - his emails are totally compliant and he's making bank from it.

I didnt come in this to argue, but to hopefully broaden your mind when it comes to emails, spammers, and how the media has blown it totally out of proportion :upsidedow

So only 3 more years for doing something that most likely involved a GUN with REAL bullets that my have KILLED someone.

I hate spammers but I also know that we have overcrowding in prisons so some drug dealer, child molester, rapist or murderer will get out early so the spammer can have a bunk to sleep in.

d00t: The thing is, to be totaly canspam legal, you have to have previous permission to contact the end user. Pretty much all the spam you are getting isn't compliant because it is just bought lists or scooped off websites, sucked off from malware / spyware setups, and such. Lars is using opt in confirmed mailers, and those are legal - and he sends with good headers, return address, cancel page, etc. I would say that 99% of the spam I see isn't compliant in the least. If that 99% went away, I wouldn't have an issue.

The ones that make me laugh? the ones that send SEXUALLY-EXPLICIT: in the subject, but intentionally misspell it or replace the I with 1 or |. Dumbfucks.

Alex

my point was that spam is totally legal, nothing more :)

you people are fucking idiots
its amazing how the media can jumble the story and you all mindlessly believe it
the man didnt get 9 years for spamming, it was for SCAMMING - selling bogus products and services totalling $750k a month if i recall correctly

carry on

this thread really got me thinking... you know they probably *never* stole anything.. or frauding cards.. every person pulls out their card and spends money WILLINGLY... (think paysite)

and before anybody can say 'oh the product was a scam' .. you should put the tv on after 10pm at night and see all the ads for 'govt grants.. and crap make money at home schemes.. they are all the same.

so.. how can I make sure the paper boy goes to jail for 9 years?

d00t, spam isn't legal - opt in mailers are legal.

different game.

Alex

Let's all wait how the appellate courts deal with the statute he was convicted under.

the world isnt just the USA

He was convicted under a state statute, if I'm not mistaken. One basis for appeal, Im guessing, is whether the US Supreme Court's case law regarding physical bulk mail is applicable to this case. If it is then there MIGHT be protected commercial speech issues. It's worth keeping in mind, however, that there's a HUGE difference between physical mail and mass non-optin bulk email. One key question is who bears the cost of the speech? The sender or the receiver (and the receiver's ISP)?

That's one fucked up spammer. :1orglaugh

I dont even think he will see prison. Maybe a year. Its maximum sentence of 9 years, Im sure he'll get a minimum sentence like the rest of these spammers who have been prosecuted.

but 4/5 world's life at the usa ...
I think you understand ....