Why Does WebAir Take 404 Traffic? - GoFuckYourself.com

Alex · 04-08-2005, 09:38 PM

I was surfing a site and got a 404 and went to a default webair 404 page.

Now, i know they arent a free host so where in their terms does it say that unless the webmasters creates a custom 404.

I read the FAQ and didnt find it.

What if the webmaster wants his 404's to go to the default This Page Can Not Be Displayed.

Then what?

WiredGuy · 04-08-2005, 09:39 PM

Have you tried using their online support? They're there 24/7...
WG

Doctor Dre · 04-08-2005, 09:40 PM

You just ask ... lots of host do that

Paulzy · 04-08-2005, 09:40 PM

they charge such cheap prices they need to make $$ in other places to stay afloat most likely

JFPdude · 04-08-2005, 09:41 PM

Another quality post by the guy that keeps calling me an idiot.

detoxed · 04-08-2005, 09:41 PM

Some people dont know how to setup 404

Alex · 04-08-2005, 09:45 PM

Right i understand it going to like
Not Found
The requested URL /sd was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
But to thier own 404 page.
I figured free hosts do that but not paid

And WG, the 24/7 support isnt being helpful.

Boss Traffic Jim · 04-08-2005, 09:49 PM

Interresting thread

Alex · 04-08-2005, 09:52 PM

Well the support assures me only the free accounts have taht but i can swear that a paid account with them had the webair 404 page.

Rich · 04-08-2005, 09:53 PM

I've never seen that before on a webair server. Perhaps you were surfing a site owned by webair, or someone who works there. Or maybe that's the default for virtual accounts, who knows.

Alex · 04-08-2005, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich

I've never seen that before on a webair server. Perhaps you were surfing a site owned by webair, or someone who works there. Or maybe that's the default for virtual accounts, who knows.

No. It was a friend that used to host there and he paid for his virtual. And i was intrigued at why the 404 went to webair.

I dont know what made me think about it today.

BIGTYMER · 04-08-2005, 09:56 PM

maybe the owner of the site didn't setup a 404 page?

JFPdude · 04-08-2005, 09:56 PM

Most hosting companies default thier 404 to their own 404 page ... they allow you to overwrite this with .htaccess

It's nothing new and it don't matter paid or free hosting ... if you don't counteracxt it on your domain with your own .htaccess file then it's up for grabs and the hosting comapny grabs it.

SmokeyTheBear · 04-08-2005, 09:56 PM

I have never noticed it

Alex · 04-08-2005, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFPdude

Most hosting companies default thier 404 to their own 404 page ... they allow you to overwrite this with .htaccess

It's nothing new and it don't matter paid or free hosting ... if you don't counteracxt it on your domain with your own .htaccess file then it's up for grabs and the hosting comapny grabs it.

I understand taht. And its not like a simple .htaccess couldnt fix it for the webmaster.

This is just the fisrt hosting company ive seen do this with paid accounts.

They arent stealing traffic per se because it can be changed t your 404 page, but i find it odd. JMO

JFPdude · 04-08-2005, 09:59 PM

It's really not rare ... most hosting companies do it. Not many of the adult hosts. But most hosts in general do it. I do it on 2 of my servers that do mainstream hosting.

newbreed · 04-09-2005, 12:04 AM

None of our 404 pages ever went to anything other than a standard apache 404 page. Do you have a screenshot of the page you were sent to?

Platinumpimp · 04-09-2005, 12:13 AM

I am curious if there's a difference regarding the 404 page standard setup between virtual and dedicated plans?

Johny Traffic · 04-09-2005, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed

None of our 404 pages ever went to anything other than a standard apache 404 page. Do you have a screenshot of the page you were sent to?

same for me, Im also interested in the screan shot if you have one

newbreed · 04-09-2005, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny Traffic

same for me, Im also interested in the screan shot if you have one

If you are asking for an SS of my 404 pages, they are all custom. However, prior to us setting up the custom pages for Arika they were all the standard Apache formet.

thewebgarage · 04-09-2005, 12:21 AM

I just got an account there. I uploaded my htaccess file and my 404 goes to where I want it.

Funky Bastard · 04-09-2005, 12:23 AM

I hate webairs control panel

Jace · 04-09-2005, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFPdude

Most hosting companies default thier 404 to their own 404 page ... they allow you to overwrite this with .htaccess

It's nothing new and it don't matter paid or free hosting ... if you don't counteracxt it on your domain with your own .htaccess file then it's up for grabs and the hosting comapny grabs it.

my hosting cvompany does it...nothing big really...i know of a few hosts that do this actually

Jace · 04-09-2005, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKS

I hate webairs control panel

wow idiot, thanks for the input

fucking surfers

Funky Bastard · 04-09-2005, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

wow idiot, thanks for the input

fucking surfers

O so you like it? vs cpanel or plesk I dont see why they just cant use one of them no they got to use some home made crap but dont get me wrong I like their uptime and support.

Jace · 04-09-2005, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKS

O so you like it? vs cpanel or plesk I dont see why they just cant use one of them no they got to use some home made crap but dont get me wrong I like their uptime and support.

their uptime is crap and support is terrible

try again surfer

Funky Bastard · 04-09-2005, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

their uptime is crap and support is terrible

try again surfer

You said it not me!

Alex · 04-09-2005, 11:42 AM

SOrry i dont have the screen shot.

And new breed im sure you are on a dedicted this was a virtual.

There is nothing wrong im not trying to stir shit, this is the first time for me that i saw an adullt paid host do this.

Boss Traffic Jim · 04-09-2005, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

their uptime is crap and support is terrible

try again surfer

Pretty harsh words against webair......very interresting

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 04-09-2005, 12:01 PM

SplitInfinity does not do this.

Just my 2cents but I do not think its a cool thing to do to clients.
Sometimes ya draw a wrong link and bang the traffic goes to promote someone elses 404 page ya just lost a visitor.

Its a bad practice.

DarkJedi · 04-09-2005, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Have you tried using their online support? They're there 24/7...
WG

Don't mind him. Alex is an idiot who's always trying to stir shit.

Alex · 04-09-2005, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

Don't mind him. Alex is an idiot who's always trying to stir shit.

Steal any good templates from Franck lately?

Calling me someone that stirs shit, coming from you is a worthless insult.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 04-09-2005, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

Steal any good templates from Franck lately?

Calling me someone that stirs shit, coming from you is a worthless insult.

Now thats hot.

Alex · 04-09-2005, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinumpimp

I am curious if there's a difference regarding the 404 page standard setup between virtual and dedicated plans?

Yea. I think its only on virtual plans. The support told me that most have the default linux 404 page. Meaning some have the webair 404 page.

SmokeyTheBear · 04-09-2005, 01:28 PM

just for the record i was curious enough to pull my 404 on my virtual account with webair to see wha happened and i got no webair 404 , i got the regular one .

Either way i dont think its much of a concern , thats the first thing i setup on any host

Rich · 04-09-2005, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKS

O so you like it? vs cpanel or plesk I dont see why they just cant use one of them no they got to use some home made crap but dont get me wrong I like their uptime and support.

It's not bad, I'd rather use theirs than pay $30/month for each copy of cpanel. What can you do with cpanel that you can't do with webair's control panel?

Alex · 04-09-2005, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

just for the record i was curious enough to pull my 404 on my virtual account with webair to see wha happened and i got no webair 404 , i got the regular one .

Either way i dont think its much of a concern , thats the first thing i setup on any host

According to the support its only on a portion of the vitual accounts.

04-08-2005, 09:38 PM	#1
Alex So Fucking Banned (YEA!!) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 10,963	Why Does WebAir Take 404 Traffic? I was surfing a site and got a 404 and went to a default webair 404 page. Now, i know they arent a free host so where in their terms does it say that unless the webmasters creates a custom 404. I read the FAQ and didnt find it. What if the webmaster wants his 404's to go to the default This Page Can Not Be Displayed. Then what? __________________ Care about me? Who? Me! Who?

04-08-2005, 09:39 PM	#2
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,482	Have you tried using their online support? They're there 24/7... WG __________________ I play with Google.

04-08-2005, 09:45 PM	#7
Alex So Fucking Banned (YEA!!) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 10,963	Right i understand it going to like Not Found The requested URL /sd was not found on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. But to thier own 404 page. I figured free hosts do that but not paid And WG, the 24/7 support isnt being helpful. __________________ Care about me? Who? Me! Who?

04-08-2005, 09:52 PM	#9
Alex So Fucking Banned (YEA!!) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 10,963	Well the support assures me only the free accounts have taht but i can swear that a paid account with them had the webair 404 page. __________________ Care about me? Who? Me! Who?

04-08-2005, 09:56 PM	#14
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	I have never noticed it __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

04-08-2005, 09:40 PM	#4
Paulzy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Shaolin Posts: 199	they charge such cheap prices they need to make $$ in other places to stay afloat most likely

04-08-2005, 09:41 PM	#5
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04-08-2005, 09:41 PM	#6
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	Some people dont know how to setup 404

04-08-2005, 09:49 PM	#8
Boss Traffic Jim Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USA Posts: 1,150	Interresting thread

04-08-2005, 09:53 PM	#10
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	I've never seen that before on a webair server. Perhaps you were surfing a site owned by webair, or someone who works there. Or maybe that's the default for virtual accounts, who knows.

04-08-2005, 09:56 PM	#12
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	maybe the owner of the site didn't setup a 404 page?

04-08-2005, 09:59 PM	#16
JFPdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mountains of Western North Carolina. Posts: 4,027	It's really not rare ... most hosting companies do it. Not many of the adult hosts. But most hosts in general do it. I do it on 2 of my servers that do mainstream hosting.

04-09-2005, 12:04 AM	#17
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04-09-2005, 11:42 AM	#28
Alex So Fucking Banned (YEA!!) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 10,963	SOrry i dont have the screen shot. And new breed im sure you are on a dedicted this was a virtual. There is nothing wrong im not trying to stir shit, this is the first time for me that i saw an adullt paid host do this. __________________ Care about me? Who? Me! Who?

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SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	just for the record i was curious enough to pull my 404 on my virtual account with webair to see wha happened and i got no webair 404 , i got the regular one . Either way i dont think its much of a concern , thats the first thing i setup on any host __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com