Bingo. If Jesus presented himself to us right now, European Lee would be the first one to put him back on the cross. Ask around the board about Lee and then you will see how much his opinion matters. :1orglaugh

European Lee, is it so hard to believe that a sponsor would host an affiliate? You are a joke dude.

And why is it that every good thread has to be ruined by a schmuck.

Did you even look at the whois info asshole? They are completely different nameservers with the EXACT SAME whois information.

Im sorry but the chances of anyone, nevermind 2 individuals having the exact same whois information as eachother in ONE thread are remote. Do the math ;)

If you are to blinded by protecting your 'friend' to see that you really are a fool.

Regards,

Lee

Oh no please don't say it, a sponsor who has actual contact with and affiliate and hosts them??? It's not possible!!

European Lee, thanks for the laugh man. What is it that you do by the way? Don't tell me your just a full time asshole?

Absolutely nothing in the adult industry, im just a surfer and im sure there are countless other people on GFY that can confirm that for you ;)

Regards,

Lee

I really do not get any enjoyment from pointing out the obvious, but listen up and maybe you will learn something. I'll even explain it to you as if you are a 2 year old so you can understand:

He said they gave him an FTP account for hosting. Of course it is going to have the same whois info! The domain belongs to StudioCash! Thats where they are hosting it on. Is that too hard for you to understand?

But how can the domain belong to them? They havent spoken to each other before :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

The scam gets unravelled by one of their supporters too, this gets better with each passing post :1orglaugh

Regards,

Lee

Well I guess I might get labled an asshole as well, but this "test" had better turn out well for studiocash.

The man stated he was told that StudioCash doesn't provide hosting but after seeing his Kick ass TCG numbers the decided to make an exception?????

What the hell kind of test is this??? Let everyone see your TCG numbers so we have something to compare it to.

You are obviously 100 times better webmaster than most of this board myself included. Therefore your results with studiocash would not be typical of the everyday webmaster thus this test is not going to do anyone with reading and comprehension skills any good. However I'm sure it will be entertaining none the less. And a really inexpensive way to keep studiocash on Page 1.

European Lee, I stay out of drama threads, but I have to chime in and say that it seems to me like you are the only 'scam' around here. You are twisting words around to make it sound like you want. Maybe you should read what Koshka said. I'll quote it for you:

"when I signed up with Studiocash 3 days ago I emailed Luke, the support guy for them, and showed him my stats from TCG, and asked if they would provide me with an ftp account and free hosting. They said they do not provide free hosting, but will make an exception because of the amount of signups I generate.That has been my extent of dealing with them. That was 3 days ago."

So he did talk to them. How can an affiliate NOT have ANY contact with a sponsor? Sorry, but if you are a good webmaster, you will have contact with your sponsor. Does that make him a fraud? Give me a break.

I will assume European Lee has ran out of drama and is trying to stir up some fake drama.

Just so everyone is clear...

studiocash.com and xgape.com are the domains in question with the same whois information because studiocash owns xgape.com, we have established that.

They provided that domain so that this dude could run a 'test' of their sites, fair enough.

So why then, if this guy doesnt have any domains of his own, did the screengrab he posted above on the domain, pornv.com (a different domain) which is hosted NOT on webair, also have the EXACT same whois information? I guess sponsors now give their affiliates multiple domains to use these days? :1orglaugh

3 different domains, 2 of which are apparently owned by studio cash, plus another domain apparently also owned by them according to the whois info.

Definately seems like a scam to me ;)

Regards,

Lee

50 bullshit tests :warning

Koshka, don't worry about European Lee. Everyone knows he likes to stir shit for sig views. It is a fact around here. Continue your test, and I look forward to seeing what you come up with.

Damn whats with all these users with 150 posts defending Studio Cash all of a sudden? Id hate for them to be fake nicks and get banned :1orglaugh

Regards,

Lee

Dude, you are really that stupid? He said StudioCash owns all 3 domains. And they made him an FTP account on one of the domains to use. How hard is that to understand?

I do see what you are doing though. I am sure if the results he posted were like 1 in 6000, you would not be making such a big deal out of nothing. Thats clever Lee, except I bet you are going to give them more publicity this way.

Maybe European Lee works for StudioCash too and is trying to get them publicity? LoL

Oh so post counts matter, huh? You are even stupider than I thought.

Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: California
Posts: 151

Just because I have 1/50th the posts that you do, does not mean you are somehow better than me I could buy and sell you in a New York minute, don't forgot that part.

1. I do not believe a sponsor would make an ftp account for someone and not know what affilaite account it was for.
2. as I said in an earlier post. this guy claims to be a ringer, so his results mean shit to the everyday webmaster, the very people this post was started to attract.

I'm quite sure if WiredGuy diverted his attention from TCG for a while and started promoting ( you name any shitty sponsor you want here) His results would stagger the avg webmaster at this board. So if the gentleman doing this test had numbers impressive enough to make the StudioCash people change policy and host him...............his numbers had better be pretty fucking good.

This is a joke, all programs need to have their top shill post there stats........... sheesh :disgust

3piece, I agree with part of what you are saying. From the sound of it Studiocash would not give him an ftp account unless he was a good webmaster and had good TCG stats, so in that regard, maybe his results would be better than a regular average webmaster.

Also in one of his earlier posts, Koshka said that he has been in the "biz" a long time, so I will assume he is a good webmaster.

Still though, I would like to see the results that Koshka gets in this test. He said it is TGP traffic, so his results cannot be THAT much better than an average webmaster.

Oh I must have missed him saying it was TGP traffic. And my point was they wouldn't give him an FTP account and NOT KNOW WHO he is. From the sounds of things it's not their normal proceedure. I know if I were a brand new company and broke my policy for a wm who was supposed to send me mass joins. I'd prolly be watching that account, and doing my best to keep my new found whale happy.

Yes I'm interested in the numbers as well, don't get me wrong at all. It just smells of a set up. But thats ok with me actually. StudioCash uses NATS and thats all I need to know.

European Lee = GFY's new village idiot.

I think I just witnessed the most worthless argument ever made on GFY, courtesy of European Lee.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Something is too fucking fishy.

Scroll up and re-read what koshka said. He said he got a FTP account from Luke, not metaformx and that no one could associate the GFY username koshka with his ftp account.

I mean I am sure they knew that someone had the FTP account, but by him posting some random stats here, how could they put it together? And who cares if they knew who he was? Does that change the fact that he got 1 in 60 ratio? Do you think they somehow altered his stats? LoL.

Fuck, give me 1 in 60 ratio and I will give you my grandma (ok, not really)

Anyways, none of it matters cause European Lee is a douche and makes worthless arguments with no merits. If you have spent any time on GFY, you know what kind of person Lee is, so his arguments do not have much punch to them, especially this one.

Are you really that fucking dumb.

He sent 68 raws so far.

I believe that this thread is destined to become a GFY Classic... :1orglaugh

Yes Alex . Most people are and that was my point.

I'm being asked to believe.

1. They Viewed this Mans TCG stats and based upon this they decided to go against their own policy and give him free hosting. Hosting that he will send his TGP traffic to.

2. They took 2 1/2 years to build this program. And I am supposed to believe the owner is not a FREAK about detail???? ( no disrespect intended) He broke policy, one that I am sure came up a time or two over the past 30months, am I being asked to believe that he is not watching this account he made an exception for to see if they may want to offer hosting to more potential whales??

As I said I'll watch the thread for entertainment value only. But my god people use your fucking heads.

And best of Luck to StudioCash, they seem like nice enough people. And if you ever stop using Nats I'll start sending my traffic.

Who cares even if they know the guy. And by the way, if they dont know anything about the person who is posting on GFY, how could they correlate that to his StudioCash account, even if they had talked to him before?

And do you guys really think StudioCash is going to go and add extra sales to this guys account? It sounds like conspiracy theories up the wazoo.

And don't forgot. European Lee is GFY' biggest douche.

Ahah, looks like European Lee is getting owned as usual. Hey Lee, put this in your pipe and smoke it.

Check out My StudioCash Stats For Today

It's okay dude, you can do a whois on my domain. Its not owned by StudioCash. It's really sad that you had to resort to that BS and make a fool out of yourself.

This StudioCash Link is Brought To You By European Lee. Thanks Lee!

- Carp

Edit, the anti hotlinking won't let me post it, hang on.

You amaze me with your stupidness in this thread ...

Chances are that they know ... but it dosen't mean they know his nickname and who he is ...

A test ? wtf u talking about a fucking test ... they provide him free hosting . stop playing with words or inventing stories in your head . ANY sponsor program will kindly offer hosting to really good affiliates ...

It's good to see tests like this. :)
I can't wait to see some real numbers. Their flagship site looks pretty good.

And for those of you arguing the fact about the hosting: MANY sponsors do NOT give hosting to affiliates. However, there is always exceptions. If I was contacted by an affiliate who said he can send X amount of joins every single day, I would for sure give him free hosting, not to mention a lot of other things I wouldn't normally give a regular affiliate. And I guarantee you we are not the only ones who will do this. Use your head, people.

As for you European Lee, this is a business thread. I'm sure there are some petty drama threads you can play around in. Leave.

With that said, i'm anxious to the results of this test. Thanks for doing it, Koshka. :)

I have a serious question.

Is this European Lee someone's fake character or is he a real person?

In all honesty, reading this thread, I was thinking to myself there is no way anyone could be as stupid as this guy with all the things he is saying about Koshka.

If European Lee is a real webmaster, he must not be a very good one as he seems to not understand the concept of a sponsor giving a valuable webmaster an FTP access.

I did support for a fairly well known program for 1 year, and we regularly gave an FTP account to our best webmasters, on OUR OWN DOMAINS. This is a very common practice.

Now a days, some of the bigger sponsors will set someone up on a dedicated server and let them host their own domain, but for a company that is just starting up like studiocash, it only makes sence to set someone up on a studiocash server and ftp access. Does Lee not understand that? Or does he understand it and is just playing around?

If he is someones fake character, then ignore this post. I am out of the loop, so someone fill me in.

Koshka. Post your money value too. 1/60 ratio fine for today, but is that on PPS where you get $35 if it converts or is it 50-60% recurring. Post how much money you make.

And is studio cash first page hits counted or 2nd page or joinpage hits. It makes a big difference.

1/60 ratio is nothing if its joinpage hits and if only 50% of them convert to full from trial then that $35 per join is turned into US$17.5 per join instantly. So interested in what they are showing and what your real ratio's of money made are.

Ouch, I cannot help but laugh at the ownage I just witnessed in this thread.

So let me get this straight, a supposedly "experienced webmaster" (European Lee) does not understand the concept of a affiliate program giving a good webmaster an FTP account and hosting him on their own domain?

If I was the company that employs this European Lee I would be embarassed at this point.

Is European Lee really that stupid, or does he just play one on GFY?

Thanks for the laugh Lee, you are a class A putz.

SIDE NOTE: Nice stats Koshka, I will be following this thread closely. StudioCash looks good!

And since I am here, a little spam: >>>Stay tuned for the launch of *New Media*<<<

Thats all folks! Now I just hope European Lee comes back in this thread for more entertainment at his expense :)

At the beggining of the thread it sais studiocash counts 1st page hits.

The guy don't need free hosting ... he can pay his bills . He just likes to press people's buttons

Which you have to admit... I have turned into a fine work of art on GFY :1orglaugh

Regards,

Lee

OK, not to defend European Lee, and whether I wish best of luck to SC people, this sounds very strange to me. The guy says in his first post he'd be sending traffic from 3 TGP, all of the sudden he doesn't have a single one and gets some free hosting to start, based on his gooooooood ratios with TCG. And these great ratios seems to be from somebody who cannot even afford hosting... OK, it could happen, but all these coincidences are suspicious to say the least.

Yes, this sounds shady to me, this time (and only this time) European Lee seems to be right, at least to my eyes, I gotta give credit where credit is due

And btw, I'm waiting for SC ending its beta testing to try it, sites looks really good :thumbsup

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