Crazy new law in Florida! - GoFuckYourself.com

Paraskass · 04-05-2005, 11:16 AM

So this law could actually make it LEGAL du have a pistol dual in the street. Say we both agree to have a dual... automatically that puts us in danger for our lives. This means that having the dual and shooting at eachother in order to kill the other person is ok.

correct?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ime_florida_dc

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (Reuters) - People in Florida will be allowed to kill in self-defense on the street without trying to flee under a new law passed by state politicians on Tuesday that critics say will bring a Wild West mentality and innocent deaths.

The Florida House of Representatives, citing the need to allow people to "stand their ground," voted 94-20 to codify and expand court rulings that already allow people to use deadly force to protect themselves in their homes without first trying to escape.

The new bill goes further by allowing citizens to use deadly force in a public place if they have a reasonable belief they are in danger of death or great bodily harm. It applies to all means of force that may result in death, although the legislative debate focused on guns.

The "Stand Your Ground" bill passed the Senate last week on a 39-0 vote and now goes to Republican Gov. Jeb Bush, who indicated he will sign it.

"This is about meeting force with force," said House sponsor Republican state Rep. Dennis Baxley of Ocala. "If I'm attacked, I should not have to retreat."

Critics have few objections to allowing people to protect themselves from intruders in their homes but said the provision making it easier to use deadly force in public gives gun owners a license to kill.

"For a House that talks about the culture of life it's ironic that we would be devaluing life in this bill," said Democratic state Rep. Dan Gelber of Miami Beach. "That's exactly what we're doing."

Like many states, Florida courts have ruled that people have a right to defend themselves in their homes. Florida courts have expanded that "Castle Doctrine" to include employees in their workplaces and drivers who are attacked in their automobiles.

Outside the home, however, courts have ruled that most victims must at least attempt to escape before using deadly force, a provision gun advocates say puts victims at greater risk. The proposal removes that requirement if a person has a reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm.

Critics say the measure could lead to racially motivated killings and promote deadly escalations of arguments.

"All this bill will do is sell more guns and possibly turn Florida into the OK Corral," said Democratic state Rep. Irv Slosberg of Boca Raton.

TheSenator · 04-05-2005, 11:18 AM

heard it on the http://www.airamericaradio.com

I guess everybody in Florida will be packing.

Sly · 04-05-2005, 11:18 AM

Ohhh sweet! Viva la Wild West!

fl_prn_str · 04-05-2005, 11:20 AM

only in Florida or................Texas!!!!

imaginax · 04-05-2005, 11:21 AM

oh wow this is just crazy

Paraskass · 04-05-2005, 11:22 AM

it's a crazy new law. Anybody could fear for their life for any reason.
Imagine the trouble this could cause in road rage incidents. Somebody could accuse the other person of trying to kill him by driving off the road and then decide to just shoot him.

smack · 04-05-2005, 11:22 AM

that's a good law. there are too many stupid ass laws in this country now violating our rights to self protection. did you know, that by using a certain type of bullet, more deadly than others, that i can be sued for wrongful death if i shoot someone in self defense. it's absolutely ridiculous. i'm glad to see florida is doing something to insure the safety of law abiding citizens.

Paraskass · 04-05-2005, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fl_prn_str

only in Florida or................Texas!!!!

Bush and Bush...

coincidence?

Manowar · 04-05-2005, 11:23 AM

holy shit

SetTheWorldonFire · 04-05-2005, 11:23 AM

civil war?

Marcus Aurelius · 04-05-2005, 11:25 AM

honestly, if my life or the life of a loved one is in danger, and I have a way to kill my attacker, im not going to worry about the legality of standing my ground before I kill them. I think most would agree that the law only goes to support self defense when justified, not senseless killing, which will happen with or without a law.

04-05-2005, 11:16 AM	#1
Paraskass Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: QC Posts: 5,829	Crazy new law in Florida! So this law could actually make it LEGAL du have a pistol dual in the street. Say we both agree to have a dual... automatically that puts us in danger for our lives. This means that having the dual and shooting at eachother in order to kill the other person is ok. correct? http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ime_florida_dc TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (Reuters) - People in Florida will be allowed to kill in self-defense on the street without trying to flee under a new law passed by state politicians on Tuesday that critics say will bring a Wild West mentality and innocent deaths. The Florida House of Representatives, citing the need to allow people to "stand their ground," voted 94-20 to codify and expand court rulings that already allow people to use deadly force to protect themselves in their homes without first trying to escape. The new bill goes further by allowing citizens to use deadly force in a public place if they have a reasonable belief they are in danger of death or great bodily harm. It applies to all means of force that may result in death, although the legislative debate focused on guns. The "Stand Your Ground" bill passed the Senate last week on a 39-0 vote and now goes to Republican Gov. Jeb Bush, who indicated he will sign it. "This is about meeting force with force," said House sponsor Republican state Rep. Dennis Baxley of Ocala. "If I'm attacked, I should not have to retreat." Critics have few objections to allowing people to protect themselves from intruders in their homes but said the provision making it easier to use deadly force in public gives gun owners a license to kill. "For a House that talks about the culture of life it's ironic that we would be devaluing life in this bill," said Democratic state Rep. Dan Gelber of Miami Beach. "That's exactly what we're doing." Like many states, Florida courts have ruled that people have a right to defend themselves in their homes. Florida courts have expanded that "Castle Doctrine" to include employees in their workplaces and drivers who are attacked in their automobiles. Outside the home, however, courts have ruled that most victims must at least attempt to escape before using deadly force, a provision gun advocates say puts victims at greater risk. The proposal removes that requirement if a person has a reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm. Critics say the measure could lead to racially motivated killings and promote deadly escalations of arguments. "All this bill will do is sell more guns and possibly turn Florida into the OK Corral," said Democratic state Rep. Irv Slosberg of Boca Raton. __________________ Last edited by Paraskass; 04-05-2005 at 11:17 AM..

04-05-2005, 11:18 AM	#2
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Paraskass Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: QC Posts: 5,829	it's a crazy new law. Anybody could fear for their life for any reason. Imagine the trouble this could cause in road rage incidents. Somebody could accuse the other person of trying to kill him by driving off the road and then decide to just shoot him. __________________

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04-05-2005, 11:22 AM	#7
smack Push Porn Like Weight. Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Inside .NET Posts: 10,652	that's a good law. there are too many stupid ass laws in this country now violating our rights to self protection. did you know, that by using a certain type of bullet, more deadly than others, that i can be sued for wrongful death if i shoot someone in self defense. it's absolutely ridiculous. i'm glad to see florida is doing something to insure the safety of law abiding citizens. __________________ Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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Marcus Aurelius No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 14,809	honestly, if my life or the life of a loved one is in danger, and I have a way to kill my attacker, im not going to worry about the legality of standing my ground before I kill them. I think most would agree that the law only goes to support self defense when justified, not senseless killing, which will happen with or without a law.