agreed, overpriced

you have no clue.

that site is not worth anything. if you have traffic and you can feed any site and grow it of course if you are sending 80% it will grow in 2 weeks.

and i think i speak for everyone no one will pay 7000$

when you can buy feeder on your own and build it up.

why would we just buy a garbage site.

so basically we are buying a domain/design/and a site with traffic that is gonna die. and that has no bookmarkers. and has no value what so ever.

sorry.

you are the weakest link.

good bye.

what tgp's do you run again?

im guessing your biggest tgp has 10k a day of traffic if even that.

Fris once your down schooling him on traffic hit me up ICQ.
My week is up and i need one more. :)

Why do you think the site is gonna die?
Basicly you are buying a site with quality trades (check the trade list), design, domain and traffic.
No it does not trade with sexocean, everybody is so bussy but did anyone read the actual trade stats? 0 in, 0 out, 0 clicks.
You can offcourse build your own site for probably less, but what happend after the feeder traffic run out? Will it drop or will it remain at the same levels? This site never received any feeder traffic, there is no point in building a site that cost money other than hosting to keep running.
Mayby, or mabyby not. It depends on your skills to build sites. If you have good skills you probably never would buy a site anyway.
Anyone with some descent marketing skills could easily make back $7K from the site within 3-4 months.
You could always argue "why not wait 2-3 months" but you can say the same in 2-3 months if it wasn't sold now

With a 80% skim to trades anyone noob can.

Just think.

Buy 10k for $50
And keep a prod of at least 100% which should be easy and with the skim of 80% you will get traffic levels up in no time.

exactly what tgp's do you run ?

Or are you just talking out of your ass ?

There's no harm in trying to get $7k for it. :) I personally think it's a little overpriced since it's such a new site and it skims so hard. If you have quality trades then why are you only sending 28% to galleries? Just curious...

FWIW: first click went to a gallery, next 9 clicks went to trades, then the 11th click got a gallery again. :Oh crap

Do the math. If your prod is twice the % of your skim % then you are bound to start seeing increase in traffic with out buying more.

I'd give my money to DamageX and buy two or three such new sites.

Now that I'm clicking more the trade list has been exhausted and it's starting to loop back to trades I've already been jerked to... the outgoing prod of this site must be horrible. :Oh crap

so you dont run any tgp's and are just talking out of your ass like 99% of gfy and 99% of people that have posted in this thread.

Because the site is running more or less on auto mode, I take care of trades, I do not review galleries.
Right now I'm on a ISDN connection, I really do not wish to spend time cheking all the galleries.
I go to sponsors, copy their gallery list and upload it to my server, then the script handles the rest.
Needless to say there will be a lot of crap galleries amongst the galleries, to send more to galleries, you need a bigger variation and also FRESH galleries listed on the site.
Sponsor hosted galleries are over exposed and made in bulk. Many times they load slow too.
if you design your own galleries and add 10 or so of your own per day, mix it up with 20-40 sold spots and then the rest could be freehosted sponsor galleries, then you would have no problems if you increase traffic to galleries.
Edit: aprox 35% is going to galleries now, so you where a unlucky with your clicks. it does not have 10% skim :-)

Worth about 500 bucks

How many times did you click?
There is 15 sites in the outgoing list, it is not normal that a regular surfer visit 15 trades.

Yep, but I wouldn't consider your site a normal TGP. To see the actual content of 3 galleries I had to click about 20 times. :winkwink:

I don't get trade scripts that reuse their outgoing list... if the surfer didn't like it the first time (or even if they did and clicked a bit) why would they want to see it again? I got sent to one of your trades a total of 3 times before I gave up and closed the site. I have my script set up to send only to galleries once the trade list is exhausted. :upsidedow

You can just define that in the skim settings.
It's pretty standard to do it in that way though, most trade scripts do that, example UCJ and TM3

i wouldn't pay that much. good luck and BUMP!

:1orglaugh This is amusing. You really seem to believe you can argue this TGP into being worth 7k.

Unless it's got some good scripts (which it doesn't seem to), not even that... LOL

sandman just proved in this thread without a doubt he exists in a world that's on the wrong side of the tracks with this post. :thumbsup

it's 8k not 7k they want :pimp

Wow...

I guess shelling out some cash to DamageX for a TGP/MGP with a better skim percentage would be silly. Especially when you can buy 2 for less than the $7k asking price.

Sandman... When did you become a guy that calls everybody names who brings up legitimate points?

Even if the price were reasonable, your attitude in this thread makes any business dealings with you very unattractive. I never considered this the case before. :(

8k :warning

Actually sandman replied to questions with the same attitude that when the question was asked.
There is not really any reason why you should be "mr nice and friendly" guy if someone who doesn't have a clue acts like mr wiseguy that knows it all and then post wrong information.
Example was mr clueless that saw trade stats and claimed all "noref" traffic to be feeder traffic, and others posting watch that sexocean trade, wich is deactivated and both in / out is 0's :thumbsup
As to DamageX he does a great job and kick ass sites, I can highly recommend him, so does everybody else, that is the reason he have a waitlist for a few months or something (it's long, don't know how long)
This is a perfect opportunity to get a site that is runnin, have good trades, and kick ass returns to trades so it can be used to feed other sites and / or projects.
The price $7K is not really unrealistic, you need to make 2 signups / day from it, and you made it back within 3 months.
Put 5 galleries within the top4 rows on the site and set them to a skim on 100% and you should have no problems, if you can design some nice galleries.
They can even be set to be ranked and rotated based on CTR within the places you decide they should be.
Tempest>
You got no clue, what excactly do you know about the script running on thumbdetective? You never tried it, and you probably never will. In case you did try it then you are using illegal scripts on your site.
Care to share with me what excactly it is that sux about that script?

I made 4 clicks:
3 to gallery
1 to trade

Guess I was lucky?

A. Perhaps it's the person running the script, but either the traffic script sucks as it's looping the surfer back to the same trades time and time again. You typically see that activity on crap sites with some custom written script because the owners are too cheap to buy a real script. A real TGP will either send the surfer to a gallery or off some place else as this activity lowers the productivity of the trade site with it's trades making it a worthless site to trade with.

B. Never heard of it before and I know all the "real" scripts around.

C. The script site index comes up 404.. yeah.. it's a good script.

Are you the owner of this site? Friends with them? Or maybe your the guy that wrote this script??

By the way.. Just the fact that sexocean was even in the trade script as a trade makes it suspect.

shit, for $8 k DamageX can build you 3 much better sites.

anyway, if there's someoine stupid enough here to buy it, why pay the middle man (snadman) ? go straight to the source and he'll probably throw a few k off: http://www.doctorpink.com/webmasters/

this thing got nasty real quick...

turbo thumbs - I have a copy of that, didnt they offer it from their site like a year ago or something? i never used it, smart thumbs and thumbmanager were leaps and bounds ahead of it, at that time.

regardless, IMO I should get a gallery 50% of the time, at minimum. 60% is the standard. good luck guys. :pimp

You were...
I made 4 clicks too:
3 trades
1 gallery

A: No matter what site you visit, if you click enough times you will end up the same places, most scripts reuse the outgoing list if it you visitted all the sites. Same with Turbothumbs. I most likely owned more copies of TM3 and UCJ doing my 6 years in biz so cut the crap with me being too cheap, aint gonna work :winkwink: I think I actually still have a UCJ license.
B: Guess not, but TurboThumbs haven't really been promoted, so that is cool. How would you define a real script? this handless 500K / day on a server without problems or slowdowns.
C: Yes script site is showing blank, too many updates and too little time. As soon as my designer get a free moment I will have him create a nice layout for you so you can see what features you are missing out. Currently I don't have the time to give the peronal support that I wish to offer, and have allways offered to my clients, therefor there is no points in having a sales page for a script that I don't have time to support.


I had a trade with sexocean a few weeks ago, 30-40K I belive it was, stopped the trade because it wasn't working out well for the overall traffic performance. Kept the trade in the script in case he continued to send traffic so I could monitor it and ask him to stop sending if I continued to receive traffic.
I'm the guy that wrote the script and run the site. And I sold many sites in the past too, usually I don't sell them through the boards though, I prefer dealing directly with people and I still do business with people I previously sold sites to, so I don't think they feel I screwed them

Read the thread. He dropped it to 7k.

any going to buy ?

I can't see that site being worth anything over $2k to $2.5k and IMO that would be high.

So out of your 150k-200k a day lets see how much you are sending to galleries. skimming that much you would probably be lucky if you are sending 50k a day to galleries.

I don't get you guys with your 30%-50% skim sites.. why waste your time and bandwith on sites that do nothing but send out to trades. You could have a 50k a day site skiming at 70% and probably make more money and pay out less on the bandwidth bill.

some of the comments/questions in this thread make me scratch my head

Sending ~75K to galleries / day.
as I stated earlier if I had the time to do gallery updates probably and actually review what kind of shit the sponsors hand over to me, or what kind of filler galleries I'm adding, then I would have no problems increasing the skim.
If you wanna send big amounts of traffic to galleries, you also need to have quality galleries.
I'm also so confident that the traffic will convert, that if I end up keeping the site I will add 2 options to get galleries listed, 1: pay, 2: partnership with very limitted amount of gallery submitters / designer where I host them, and we split the income from the galleries, very easy to do and I wouldnt need to worry about cheaters neither.
Offcourse I would have higher skim on that kind of thumb links (50%-70% to galleries)

i just visited the mgp. i clicked on the first thumb which most surfers do. it went to the actualy gallery. i clicked it again went to the gallery again.
clicked it 15 more times. ALL WENT TO TRADES

so out of 17 clicks 15 went to trades 2 went to galleries :)

hows that for FUCKING THE SURFER OVER

you want surfers to come back to your site.

not piss them off so they goto a different site.

i always set my ratio at 75% to gals. then eventually 80% then 85%

actually i just went 10 mins ago to a site i have a partner account on. the top row 2nd thumb across i had to click 14 times before i got the gallery.

it amazes me . why i bother submitting. when it takes so long to get a gallery.

is it worth it? my gallery wont even get exposure.

just my thoughts.

Not really your day today :1orglaugh
Seriously, when you skim traffic, you pick a random number between example 1 and 100, if the number is found is less than what you defined in your skim, you go to a gallery, if not you go to a trade.
in theory someone could click 5000 times and get to galleries 5000 times even if you decided to skim only 1% to galleries and 99% to trades. It much like the roulette, you know there is almost 50% chance to win if you bet on black, but you never win anyway, still the guy right next to you keep winning

The thing that the high skim says is that you cant gurantee traffic.
You will never get any bookmarkers which are stable.
Your site goes down, youve lost all traffic. Trades drop you. Bookmarkers come back.

too much

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Fuckin shit.
You couldnt make a 150k site with $500 in a month if you tried.
That site is worth about 2k to the adult webmaster.
5-7k to a noobie with deep pockets getting in the biz.

Goodlooking out, Sandman!

i trade traffic that is what i do.

i dont see that as being on any wrong side of any tracks.

i answered all questions in the way they were asked.

anyone being an ass got a response in the same way.

please show me where i blasted anyone here that was not asking for it.

thanks :)

come on everyone on gfy is a tgp master and can grow a site to 200k a day in less then a week!

it was meant as a joke. i glad you caught that

I'm just amazed the thread didn't die right here.

So why is the screenshot 404 now?

SpaceAce

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh Sure it was.