Originally Posted by XPays

more like praying on the gullible, amateur and those who fail to do proper due diligence. sure, icq is great for checking references :1orglaugh The phone would have been an educated bet if it was so important to start the new account off with a prepay. I am finding it hard to have sympathy for the victim here admittedly and am biased.

Originally Posted by Rick Latona

INDUSTRY SCAM ALERT ? I and most likely others got taken.

This is a difficult post for me to make because I?m embarrassed, humiliated and angry but I?m honor bound to warn you all about what happened. I was scammed out of 4000 dollars and I just found out that other people have been getting hit as well.

The short version of the story is that a guy on ICQ that goes by King Fuck and tells you his real name is Jeremy talked me into sending him money for prepaid joins to our sponsor program. I asked him if he had references and he mentioned Greg Dumas who many of you know is as good of a reference as you can get. He told me he?d have Greg contact me. A gregduma4981 on AIM hit me up and vouched for him. Funny thing is that it wasn?t the real Greg. I sent the money and lost the money.

This guy clearly knows Greg and knows the industry. I swear I talked to who I thought was Greg for 20 minutes and never put it together and I know Greg! This happened last week and I?ve been just patiently waiting for the joins. Last night at the Phoenix Forum I had dinner with Greg and asked him how Australia was. He told me he?s never been to Australia and I knew right there in a second that I had been scammed.

I won?t post the names of the other companies that got taken because I don?t know if they want it disclosed but Greg and I thought I?d be best to get the word out to you all as fast as possible.

Other information that might help you is that I sent it via Western Union to an Allison Greenberg in Fort Lauderdale who would have used 2 forms of government issued identification to pick that much money. I don?t know if it is someone that he knows or some hooker off the street that he got to do the dirty work but I know that person exists. I seriously doubt he had two fake IDs.

I?ll post updates as I get them.

Originally Posted by XPays

we are very regular - every day right after the coffee and plop

Originally Posted by dig420

and settling the criminal lawsuits.

Originally Posted by XPays

we have never had a criminal lawsuit and that statement is actionable without a retraction. try me!!!!!

Originally Posted by dig420

yeah that's almost as gullible as signing up to x program to make 30 per join instead of y program to make 35.

When are you going to start suing everybody with your patents Evan?

Originally Posted by dig420

didn't "ya" get publically fired once for saying stupid shit on this board? Do you ever learn?

Originally Posted by dig420

Is that really somebody getting hit by a car in your sig?

Originally Posted by XPays

we are very regular - every day right after the coffee and plop

Originally Posted by dig420

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anyone want to do business with this guy keep your lawyer in your back pocket, you could need him at any moment!

Originally Posted by XPays

Actually the first blitz is to offer technology in a turn-key solution and help people expand:

Here is some descriptive pitching I am working on:

In just a few weeks, us guys who invented "Affiliate Pooling" and the "Virtual Affiliate" model will unfurl a revolutionary plugin for affiliate programs called "XTXN" aka XTransaction. We have so many sites and integrated processors after 7 years in this business that even dhd is in there

Our turnkey solution will have you Affiliate Pooling with our Affiliate BlackBox and increase the variety and stability and profitability of your business overnight. Many sites and stores etc. are integrated into XTXN and you can insert as many as you like and subtrack and payout your affiliates. There are so many applications to increase your bottom line with XTXN that it will be the platform you piggyback onto your network forever. It can plug right in with Nats and MPA and RiverStyx and all of the options out there including your own proprietary network. You also have built in to XTXN a patent license to our '660 patent http://essociate.com/patents/US6804660.pdf and XTXN is directly addressed in our claims and Patented Already.

Anybody who wants to be first to expand the shit out of their affiliate program with no hassle whatsoever call 415-331-2496 or email evan @ xpays
right now! We have 7 participating sponsors already and can add many more. We already have 125 sites and multiple sextoy and dvd stores integrated. The XTXN system can also be used for many other functions. The Affiliate Black Box can be used for independent 3rd party auditing, integrating multiple merchants within a single affiliate program, and more....


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Otherwise we have had to successful enforcements so far. We will protect our unique business model as necessary.

Originally Posted by undermyspell

from what I see he now goes by JeffFL and the number is 312347772... I have a list longer than my arm of ways he fucked me over. From copywrite violation to broken contracts for sale of property. I don't seem to have his phone numbers anymore but Juicylinks probably does. He owned thedailywebmaster.com, hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.com and some more.. here is the whois from dailywebmaster

Registrant:
NetMarketz.com
9715 W. Broward Blvd
#118
Plantation, FL 33324
US

Domain name: THEDAILYWEBMASTER.COM

Administrative Contact:
Account, Support Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by Whois Source
9715 W. Broward Blvd
#118
Plantation, FL 33324
US
954-687-2869
Technical Contact:
Account, Support Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by Whois Source
9715 W. Broward Blvd
#118
Plantation, FL 33324
US
954-687-2869

Originally Posted by dig420

Or everyone can just go right to the affiliate program they want to promote and make more per join.

All I want to know is how many of your affiliates are you going to sue?

Originally Posted by XPays

more like you can trust that we walk the straightest line in the industry because we have high profile sites and a long term approach.

Originally Posted by XPays

actually how many companies will we enable to expand wildly is a better question. you still are upset that i exposed you 5 years ago?

bernie took money from us for sexpays.com without informing his partners or affiliates and i still have the emails from his partners and clients here. he took the money and ran.... not my problem but it happened and is truth.

Originally Posted by dig420

didn't you get your ass sued off by AOL and microsoft for spamming? Is that part of the 'long term approach'?

Originally Posted by dig420

yep I'm just one of the many happy recipients of an Xpays lawsuit. What lucky webmaster is next in line Evan?

Originally Posted by Rick Latona

INDUSTRY SCAM ALERT ? I and most likely others got taken.

This is a difficult post for me to make because I?m embarrassed, humiliated and angry but I?m honor bound to warn you all about what happened. I was scammed out of 4000 dollars and I just found out that other people have been getting hit as well.

The short version of the story is that a guy on ICQ that goes by King Fuck and tells you his real name is Jeremy talked me into sending him money for prepaid joins to our sponsor program. I asked him if he had references and he mentioned Greg Dumas who many of you know is as good of a reference as you can get. He told me he?d have Greg contact me. A gregduma4981 on AIM hit me up and vouched for him. Funny thing is that it wasn?t the real Greg. I sent the money and lost the money.

This guy clearly knows Greg and knows the industry. I swear I talked to who I thought was Greg for 20 minutes and never put it together and I know Greg! This happened last week and I?ve been just patiently waiting for the joins. Last night at the Phoenix Forum I had dinner with Greg and asked him how Australia was. He told me he?s never been to Australia and I knew right there in a second that I had been scammed.

I won?t post the names of the other companies that got taken because I don?t know if they want it disclosed but Greg and I thought I?d be best to get the word out to you all as fast as possible.

Other information that might help you is that I sent it via Western Union to an Allison Greenberg in Fort Lauderdale who would have used 2 forms of government issued identification to pick that much money. I don?t know if it is someone that he knows or some hooker off the street that he got to do the dirty work but I know that person exists. I seriously doubt he had two fake IDs.

I?ll post updates as I get them.

Originally Posted by XPays

more like praying on the gullible, amateur and those who fail to do proper due diligence. sure, icq is great for checking references :1orglaugh The phone would have been an educated bet if it was so important to start the new account off with a prepay. I am finding it hard to have sympathy for the victim here admittedly and am biased.

Originally Posted by XPays

actually how many companies will we enable to expand wildly is a better question.

Originally Posted by William-Xfactor

What a prick you are, so Rick let his guard down ?it can happen to anyone? as embarrassed as his about it, he put all that aside and put the word out to warn others. It says a lot about his character. You just look desperate to discredit him. Business must be average for your shitty sponsor I guess

Originally Posted by Rich

No, how many affiliates you're going to sue is a much better question.

Originally Posted by dig420

nah Evan takes great pleasure in suing people and then crowing about it for years afterwards. He's a great guy.

Originally Posted by William-Xfactor

What a prick you are, so Rick let his guard down ?it can happen to anyone? as embarrassed as his about it, he put all that aside and put the word out to warn others. It says a lot about his character. You just look desperate to discredit him. Business must be average for your shitty sponsor I guess

Originally Posted by XPays

the way iwantu pools profiles for cobrands is quite realistically and potentially infringing on our pooling patent so you might want to zip it for a while.

Originally Posted by Rich

Indeed. Pretty pathetic that they have exclusive rights to the most publicized sex tape in the past 5 years, and they still can't get anyone to promote them. If Rick had that tape you'd see his Paris site everywhere, because, well, he's not a dick and he knows how to run a business.

Originally Posted by Rick Latona

We'll be filing criminal charges. This is a federal crime because it cross inter-state commerce borders.

Originally Posted by Rich

Indeed. Pretty pathetic that they have exclusive rights to the most publicized sex tape in the past 5 years, and they still can't get anyone to promote them. If Rick had that tape you'd see his Paris site everywhere, because, well, he's not a dick and he knows how to run a business.

Originally Posted by dig420

yeah, threatening to sue everyone you do business with would tend to make people hesitant to do business with you eventually I would think.

it's also hard to change when your business model is based totally on spamming.

Originally Posted by Rick Latona

I'd like to thank those who are defending me in this thread. I'd also like to respectfully request that we get back to sharing information so we can bring this guy down. I'd hate to see this thread get too far off course.

Originally Posted by Rick Latona

I don't know what part of that sentence is more insulting.