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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-31-2005 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth
as far as protection of my content...it isnt protected...other than by copyright and international law.

will it be on p2p networks...probably...its branded and if they want to wait for it to download they will can I keep the theft reasonable...yes can I stop it...no

DRM cant stop it from happening either....anymore than it could with MP3 files.

until someone comes up with something better than a pay per view type model it wont work for me as a consumer or a site owner.

Oh man...
Well I am just trying to help ya...
Don't be a horse to stubborn to be leadto water. Read upon it and understand it:)

mikesouth 03-31-2005 05:45 PM

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bigdog 04-01-2005 03:35 AM

who is using drm and having great success with it?

Drake 04-01-2005 03:41 AM

Great thread. DRM has been used on many sites now for at least a year or more. Would love to hear what their experiences have been.

mb 04-01-2005 06:31 AM

Let me throw this out there.

Probably the largest (arguably) adult paysite out there has been using DRM for a while now and continues to grow at a staggering rate. Most of you don't know much about this site because it caters to the Japanese market.

99BB.com

DRM (or similar) will be around in some form forever as quality of content continues to improve. Are you going to offer 1080i HD downloadable content unprotected when the time comes?

mb

bigdog 04-01-2005 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mb
Let me throw this out there.

Probably the largest (arguably) adult paysite out there has been using DRM for a while now and continues to grow at a staggering rate. Most of you don't know much about this site because it caters to the Japanese market.

99BB.com

DRM (or similar) will be around in some form forever as quality of content continues to improve. Are you going to offer 1080i HD downloadable content unprotected when the time comes?

mb

that is one thing about drm, if you are going to drm your clips at least offer higher quality clips then you would normally give away in your members area.

mattyboy 04-01-2005 06:59 AM

We've used DRM with great success for almost a year now on OneManBanned.tv
The site has over 35GB of exclusive content encoded at 1000kb/s and the files are downloadable "as one".
There is a big misconseption about movies expiring once the surfer cancels there membership. DRM is very flexible and since the beginning of 2005 we have lifetime licences on all of the movies - meaning the files will never expire whether the customer is an active member or not.
We make it clear on the FAQ page how DRM works so surfers know what to expect. Once the licence has been issued on the first play, the movies play like any other WMV file played on a PC. Sign ups/rebills/chargebacks are no different from our other non DRM sites.
The key to DRM i believe is to have a good amount of quality exclusive content and relax the licence rules a little.
Most of the legal music download sites use a form of DRM and it will surely get more popular and established over time.

Turf 04-01-2005 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep
As far as I know, DRM doesnt work for Mac users.

depends on the validation url you use.. V7 dont work for Mac users but the old V1 does..

Radiate 04-01-2005 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattyboy
There is a big misconseption about movies expiring once the surfer cancels there membership. DRM is very flexible and since the beginning of 2005 we have lifetime licences on all of the movies - meaning the files will never expire whether the customer is an active member or not.

How does this give you a benefit then?

mattyboy 04-01-2005 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Radiate
How does this give you a benefit then?

Just looked at it from a surfers point of view.

Radiate 04-01-2005 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattyboy
Just looked at it from a surfers point of view.

What I mean is, I thought the point of DRM was to make it so the surfer has to have a membership to view the video, if you give it a lifetime license, then why use DRM at all?

bigdog 04-01-2005 08:43 AM

I wonder what will happen once drm is cracked. At least with streaming videos the surfers has to go out of his way and try to copy it.

Barefootsies 04-01-2005 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mb
IMHO

DRM is GOOD for protecting quality, exclusive/underused content
DRM is BAD for oversaturated bland content

mb


Interesting way to put it.

:banana :banana

Forkbeard 04-01-2005 09:02 AM

From the viewpoint of the technically savvy consumer, DRM is *always* bad. Not because the savvy consumer is a pirate, but because DRM says "you have to view and store this on *my* terms, not yours."

In the mainstream world or the porn world, I won't buy something subject to DRM if I have *any* alternative. Unique content unlike any other, available no other way, perhaps. But how many of you really have that?

DRM is customer-hostile. End of story. If you treat your customers like shoplifters, they are *more* likely to shoplift, not less. Bad business, as the PC game distributors discovered twenty years ago.

mattyboy 04-01-2005 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Radiate
What I mean is, I thought the point of DRM was to make it so the surfer has to have a membership to view the video, if you give it a lifetime license, then why use DRM at all?

No, thats the misconception! We had quite a big problem with our stuff all over P2P and some newsgroups. DRM stops that but still gives the surfer a good deal.


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