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Old 03-31-2005, 10:27 AM   #1
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OK.... Im diving in to my dedicated servers root.... complete linux newb, help!!

Any hints, tips, webpages etc.......

And a good telnet client that will hold my hand would be good

Thanks!
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Old 03-31-2005, 10:34 AM   #2
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don't use TELNET

use ssh. PUTTY is a good client for that
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Old 03-31-2005, 10:34 AM   #3
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First off disable telnet and install ssh2.

Secure CRT is the best client for ssh access.

Don't jump into root with your own server. First find an old computer of yours and install the operating system on it and learn on that. DO NOT LEARN ON AN OPERATIONAL PRODUCTION SYSTEM. It's bad news if you do.

Google is your freind learning *nix have fun anybody can do it.
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Old 03-31-2005, 10:36 AM   #4
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Here's a really good tip.

Don't type "yes" at a command prompt.
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Old 03-31-2005, 10:37 AM   #5
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What distribution are you using?

You should use something like putty as your SSH (NOT telnet, that's not secure) client. You can download it from http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~s.../download.html .

Depending on your distribution there might be some good manuals. Since most newbees start with RedHat, you should check http://www.redhat.com/docs/ for some very good manuals.
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Old 03-31-2005, 10:38 AM   #6
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First off disable telnet and install ssh2.

Secure CRT is the best client for ssh access.

Don't jump into root with your own server. First find an old computer of yours and install the operating system on it and learn on that. DO NOT LEARN ON AN OPERATIONAL PRODUCTION SYSTEM. It's bad news if you do.

Google is your freind learning *nix have fun anybody can do it.

He knows his shit so listen to him.

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Old 03-31-2005, 10:39 AM   #7
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My tip, don't use root unless you have a reason to. Press enter on the wrong command, and your server is wiped, and unrecoverable.

Better still... make your own box at home with your server's OS and software and experiment on it first.
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Old 03-31-2005, 10:41 AM   #8
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First off disable telnet and install ssh2.

Secure CRT is the best client for ssh access.

Don't jump into root with your own server. First find an old computer of yours and install the operating system on it and learn on that. DO NOT LEARN ON AN OPERATIONAL PRODUCTION SYSTEM. It's bad news if you do.

Google is your freind learning *nix have fun anybody can do it.

Thanks - I need someone to keep me under control sometimes ...... I have an old sys around somewhere
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Old 03-31-2005, 10:42 AM   #9
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Have someone install a panel for you.

Use DirectAdmin, CPanel, Ensim, or Plesk. This will make it much easier! When you get a good handle on how this all works then you can switch to command line.
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Old 03-31-2005, 11:00 AM   #10
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Have someone install a panel for you.

Use DirectAdmin, CPanel, Ensim, or Plesk. This will make it much easier! When you get a good handle on how this all works then you can switch to command line.
I would do it the other way around. First understand the command line and how things are done, then use a cp to make things easier.

When you mess something up with a cp (which can happen very easy) and you have no idea what is going on, your in big trouble.

I personally would never use a cp, but that's just me. I like to know exactly what is happening on my servers and a cp gives me the feeling that I kind of loose control on that part.
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Old 03-31-2005, 11:07 AM   #11
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My tip: Don't learn Windows for dedicated hosting.

If you really want to learn, download and install a linux distribution. Fedora has some really good resources - free forums, etc.

Also, I really hate it when people learn on opperational systems too. However, if you have a small site like a blog or something else, it can help to have real traffic. But certainly, nothing that you (or any one else) is making money from.
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