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Old 03-31-2005, 01:51 AM   #1
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Why did Bush let bin Laden get away with attacking America?

Here we are 3 1/2 years later and bin Laden is still free and gone from the minds of the Bush administration and the media. WTF is going on here? If 3 years after the Oklahoma City bombing no one had been caught the right wingers would have been bitching up a storm about Clinton.

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Why do you care about a fucker holed up in a cave ?
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'the Bush administration had foreknowledge of the attack and sought to conceal what Griffin suggests was the Pakistani intelligence agency's involvement in the planning for the attacks. His analysis is undergirded by the theory that a significant external threat, on the scale of Pearl Harbor, was very much in the interest of the Bush administration, which he believes is intent on self-interested aggressive foreign policies.'
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Old 03-31-2005, 02:12 AM   #7
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he his providing more Arms to a country which is hiding osama in a safe place
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'the Bush administration had foreknowledge of the attack and sought to conceal what Griffin suggests was the Pakistani intelligence agency's involvement in the planning for the attacks. His analysis is undergirded by the theory that a significant external threat, on the scale of Pearl Harbor, was very much in the interest of the Bush administration, which he believes is intent on self-interested aggressive foreign policies.'
Looks like a very intriguing book.
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Old 03-31-2005, 04:31 AM   #11
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Old 03-31-2005, 06:18 AM   #13
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Bin laden didn't blow up the projects....

it was you nigga, tell the truth nigga
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Old 03-31-2005, 06:22 AM   #14
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"Federal agents seeking bin Laden had developed a plan to have a plane fly in and attack a compound in Kandahar, Afghanistan, where the terror leader was believed to have been holed up back in 1998 ? three years before the devastating attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. But when the plan went up the chain of command for approval, it was killed by then-Attorney General Janet Reno.
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Old 03-31-2005, 06:34 AM   #15
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That's cause the Bin Laden's holds a good chunk of the USA fortune. Kill my son I'll pull my money and your economy will collapse.
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"Federal agents seeking bin Laden had developed a plan to have a plane fly in and attack a compound in Kandahar, Afghanistan, where the terror leader was believed to have been holed up back in 1998 ? three years before the devastating attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. But when the plan went up the chain of command for approval, it was killed by then-Attorney General Janet Reno.
I can see why you didn't link it:

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Using a desert area outside San Antonio, Texas, similar to the terrain in Afghanistan, the Alex Station team actually practiced the short takeoff and landings that would have been necessary. A US plane would have flown in from Uzbekistan containing the commandos and would have been used to carry bin Laden back. Doctor would have analysed his physical and mental state. Next, an FBI agent would have placed him under arrest. Cloonan said that the plan may not have seemed perfect to observers. ?I suppose to some people who might listen to this, it may have even seemed harebrained or too extreme. It just was not possible. But we never thought it was not possible,? he told ABCNEWS.
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Old 03-31-2005, 06:58 AM   #19
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The Bush family is way too tight with the bin ladens for him to be caught
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Bin Laden? who's that... he didn't attack us it was iraq... yup that's who did it. foxnews said so {sarcasm}
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Old 03-31-2005, 07:06 AM   #21
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If it weren't for 911 Bush would most likely have never been re-elected
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yes the attack of the 9/11 was like a new pearl harbor
and bush counter attacked some random country
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Old 03-31-2005, 08:08 AM   #23
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Why did Bush let bin Laden get away with attacking America?
He didn't.

Bin Laden has had to sit in his cave and watch as his organisation has been all but crushed since that day.

Maybe one day he will be caught and maybe he won't. Not all criminals are brought to justice. Some are just never caught.
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Only history will tell, but my belief is Bush will go down in the history books as the loser he is.

They thought it was going to be so easy after they had knocked out the little piss poor army Iraq had, and anyone at the time who believed they were a threat was an idiot or lying.

So there is Bush on two counts.

They then thought the peace was going to be so easy when they got rid of that nasty little Saddam. Again idiots or liars.

They thought they could install a democracy in Iraq that would be pro American and do as the US wished. Now this was so fucking stupid I doubt if it could be called a lie.

They also planned to be pumping (I think) 50 million barrels of oil a day by now, to pay for the huge investment needed to repair the damage. Well maybe their little plan was a bit enthusiastic, but it seems the Iraqis are not playing ball.

Almighty cock up does not even come close to describe what happened and not one single reason Bush/Blair gave has turned out to be true.

Much like Bush's promise to not stop until Bin Laden was caught.
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He didn't.

Bin Laden has had to sit in his cave and watch as his organisation has been all but crushed since that day.

Maybe one day he will be caught and maybe he won't. Not all criminals are brought to justice. Some are just never caught.
LOL

You get a 10 for learning your ( Fox news ) lesson ....

Amazing how you can just believe that because you are told so ... Any idea which cave? If not, how do you know....
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He didn't.

Bin Laden has had to sit in his cave and watch as his organisation has been all but crushed since that day.

Maybe one day he will be caught and maybe he won't. Not all criminals are brought to justice. Some are just never caught.
His cave with a television studio, dialisis, and sun to keep up his tan? He looked pretty healthy and relaxed last tape he made.
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Much like Bush's promise to not stop until Bin Laden was caught.

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our Number one priority and we will not rest until we find him!" -- G. W. Bush, September 13, 2001

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02


Bush doesnt want to catch him, not only has bin laden helped him succeed more than Karl Rove has, catching bin laden would provide more insight into 9/11 than Bush would like.
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So few people remember the lessons of 1984.

Bin Laden, al Zarqawi - all constructs. Difficult to believe how easy it is to fool people - and how little reasoning most people put into their beliefs and opinions: "Saw it on the news and the president told me so, so it must be so - and I won't let any crackpot tell me otherwise."
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He didn't.

Bin Laden has had to sit in his cave and watch as his organisation has been all but crushed since that day.
That is the thing about the Muslims.

They have a short attention span. If they don't get what they want in a year or two they just give up and move on to the next project.
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Why would they want to catch him? He's a CIA asset, if he ever stops being helpful to them, they'll just kill him. He's the only reason the neo-conservatives were able to grab complete control of the USA and start their campaign of terror in the middle east.


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"Federal agents seeking bin Laden had developed a plan to have a plane fly in and attack a compound in Kandahar, Afghanistan, where the terror leader was believed to have been holed up back in 1998 ? three years before the devastating attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. But when the plan went up the chain of command for approval, it was killed by then-Attorney General Janet Reno.
Good God, you're stupid as hell. The question is, why did Bush let Bin Laden get away with attacking America. You start talking about 1998. When did Sept 11th happen?

We realize that you wish 9/11 had happened on Clinton's watch, but that's just because you're a retard who buys into all the oversimplified bullshit they shout at you 24/7 to keep you from thinking. Bush has had 3 years to catch Bin Laden, if he were a real President, he would have done it a long time ago. Bin Laden is the only reason Bush is in power, and the next attack against America is only going to help the neo-cons further.
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"Federal agents seeking bin Laden had developed a plan to have a plane fly in and attack a compound in Kandahar, Afghanistan, where the terror leader was believed to have been holed up back in 1998 ? three years before the devastating attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. But when the plan went up the chain of command for approval, it was killed by then-Attorney General Janet Reno.
Tell me again who funded and trained bin Laden in the 80's?
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Tell me again who funded and trained bin Laden in the 80's?
Was it Al Gore?
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Was it Al Gore?

I thought it was Hillary.
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That's right, my mistake.

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I love you people who think that bin laden is just sitting around in a cave somewhere going "Oh noes the US is after me".
Bin Laden is a VERY wealthy man and he enjoys the support of millions of fellow muslims, he is obviously not worried about being caught anytime soon as he still puts out video tapes now and again. A person worried about their security doesn't do that. It also proves that he has access to outside information -- In other words Binny Boy is living it up somewhere in the middle east with the support and backing of many loyal followers. He commited the largest terror attack in history and got away with it.

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Report Assails C.I.A. for Failure on Iraq Weapons

By DAVID E. SANGER and SCOTT SHANE


*******http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/dropcap/w.gif[/***]ASHINGTON, March 28 - The final report of a presidential commission studying American intelligence failures regarding illicit weapons includes a searing critique of how the C.I.A. and other agencies never properly assessed Saddam Hussein's political maneuverings or the possibility that he no longer had weapon stockpiles, according to officials who have seen the report's executive summary.

The report also proposes broad changes in the sharing of information among intelligence agencies that go well beyond the legislation passed by Congress late last year creating a director of national intelligence to coordinate action among all 15 intelligence agencies.

Those recommendations are likely to figure prominently in the confirmation hearings in April of John D. Negroponte, whom President Bush has nominated to be national intelligence director and who is about to move to the center of the campaign against terror. [Page A14.]

The report particularly singles out the Central Intelligence Agency under its former director, George J. Tenet, but also includes what one senior official called "a hearty condemnation" of the Defense Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency, two of the largest intelligence agencies.

The unclassified version of the report, which is more than 400 pages long, devotes relatively little space to the holes in American intelligence about North Korea and Iran, the two nations now posing the largest potential nuclear challenge to the United States and its allies. Most of that discussion appears only in a much longer classified version.

In the words of one administration official who has reviewed the classified version, referring to the North Korean leader and the Iran clerical leaders, "we don't give Kim Jong Il or the mullahs a window into what we know and what we don't."

Mr. Bush is expected to receive the report officially on Thursday morning, White House officials said.

As early copies of the report circulated inside the government on Monday, officials said much of it went over ground already covered by the Senate Intelligence Committee and the two reports of the Iraq Survey Group, which was created by the government to search for prohibited weapons after the Iraq invasion, and came up basically empty-handed.

After Iraq's defeat in the Persian Gulf war in 1991, international inspectors dismantled an active nuclear program, along with biological and chemical weapons. Much of the flawed intelligence was based on a series of assumptions that Mr. Hussein reconstituted those programs after inspectors left the country under duress in 1998.

But in retrospect, those assumptions by American and other intelligence analysts turned out to be deeply flawed, even though some of Mr. Hussein's own commanders said after they were captured in 2003 that they also believed the government held some unconventional weapons. It was a myth Mr. Hussein apparently fostered to retain an air of power.

That forced Mr. Bush to appoint, somewhat reluctantly, the Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction, which has operated largely in secret under the direction of Laurence H. Silberman, a senior judge on the United States Court of Appeals, and former Governor Charles S. Robb of Virginia.

According to officials who have scanned the document, the unclassified version of the report makes a "case study" of the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq, the major assessment that the intelligence agencies produced at the White House's behest - in a hurried few weeks - in 2002.

After the Iraq invasion in March 2003, the White House was forced to declassify part of the intelligence estimate, including the footnotes in which some agencies dissented from the view that Mr. Hussein had imported aluminum tubes in order to make centrifuges for the production of uranium, or possessed mobile biological weapons laboratories.

The report particularly ridicules the conclusion that Mr. Hussein's fleet of "unmanned aerial vehicles," which had very limited flying range, posed a major threat. All of those assertions were repeated by Mr. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and other senior officials in the prelude to the war. To this day, Mr. Cheney has never backed away from his claim, repeated last year, that the "mobile laboratories" were probably part of a secret biological weapons program, and his office has repeatedly declined to respond to inquiries about whether the evidence has changed his view.

One issue the commission grappled with is whether the intelligence agencies failed to understand what was happening inside Iraq after the inspectors left in 1998, a period that David Kay, the first head of the Iraq Survey Group, referred to last year as a time when the country headed into a "vortex of corruption." Mr. Kay, who also testified before the commission, said Mr. Hussein's scientists had faked some of their research and development programs, and Mr. Hussein was reported by his aides to be increasingly divorced from reality.

One defense official who had been briefed on an early draft of the report said Monday that one of its conclusions was that "human intelligence left a lot to be desired" in the global war against terror.

The official also indicated that there was already considerable anxiety about the final report and its recommendations. "We're all wondering what it will say," said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the report had not been publicly released yet. "We all know there were shortcomings before 9/11," the official said. "Will this report take into account what we've done since then?"

The commission's mandate was to examine the intelligence agencies' ability to "collect, process, analyze and disseminate information concerning the capabilities, intentions and activities of foreign powers." Besides Iraq, Iran and North Korea, that mandate covered terrorist groups and private nuclear black market networks created by Dr. A. Q. Khan, the Pakistani scientist.

The classified version of the report is particularly critical of American failures to penetrate Iran's program, and notes how much of the assessment of the size of North Korea's suspected nuclear arsenal is based on what one official called "educated extrapolation." Officials and outside experts who were interviewed by the commission or its staff said they had been asked at length about the absence of reliable human intelligence sources inside both countries.

The commission's conclusions, if made public, may only fuel the arguments now heard in Beijing, Seoul and the capitals of Europe that an intelligence system that so misjudged Iraq cannot be fully trusted when it comes to the assessments of how much progress has been made by North Korea and Iran. North Korea has boasted of producing weapons - but has never tested them - and Iran has now admitted to covering up major elements of its nuclear program, even though it denies that it is building weapons.

The nine-member commission has met formally a dozen times at its offices in Arlington, Va., and in November visited Mr. Bush at the White House to speak with him and his staff. It had formal meetings with most top administration intelligence and foreign policy officials and interviewed former C.I.A. directors and academic experts on weapons proliferation. The commission, which has a professional staff of more than 60 people, mostly longtime mid-level intelligence professionals, has had access to even the most secret government documents.

All the sessions have been closed to the news media and the public, and the commission members and staff have been tight-lipped about the contents of their report.

"We and the staff have made a commitment in blood not to discuss the report in advance," said Walter B. Slocombe, a former defense official and member of the commission.



David Johnston and Anne E. Kornblut contributed reporting for this article.


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Old 03-31-2005, 01:16 PM   #41
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Just to piss you off, that's all.
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Old 03-31-2005, 01:27 PM   #42
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Our country is ruined because of bush.

Bible thumping faggots and rednecks with no education re-elected him after watching fox news too much. (that or he stole the election illegally).

Al Zaqwari is just a cover up for the failure in Iraq.

Inquiry into Iraq weapons prooves Intelligence agencies "dead wrong".

Why did we let him get away?

We didn't, we never persued him in the first place.
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Old 03-31-2005, 01:37 PM   #43
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Just to piss you off, that's all.

Now thats the kind of answer I expect from dumbass Bush supporters. Thank you from taking time out of listening to Limpball to post.
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Old 03-31-2005, 01:43 PM   #44
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Just to piss you off, that's all.
You like the fact that Bin Laden is free?

That's a great example of the fucked up mindset it takes to be a supporter of this cowardly, hypocritical administration. You idiots are fooled into believing the simple MSM explanation of politics, that you're supposed to pick a side and root for it. As long as you think your side is "winning", you don't care what the realities of the situation are. I hope one day you can rise above the bullshit and see how pathetic your way of thinking was.
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Old 03-31-2005, 01:50 PM   #45
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I have to agree it's bizarre that Bush let Bin Laden get away...

I voted for Bush in 2000 and empathized with him throughout the whole sept 11 crisis. But I live in Las Vegas Nevada....and while Bush was campaigning for security in 2004 I was watching my city fill up with hundreds of thousands of foreigners.

These are not tourists... they are illegal immigrants absolutely flooding and colonizing the city. Bush refuses to secure the borders. How can he talk security and terrorism while simultaneously allowing anybody into the country through a non-existent border

He is a fraud

The man is a complete phony. He is only "Christian" enough to get votes from the right wing base. Now he will turn on them because he doesn't need them anymore.

Notice that Bush always speaks in code word to his Christian base? He says things like "culture of life" and "protection of marriage." He never says he's anti-abortion and never says he's against homosexual marriage. WHY? Because he is pro choice and pro gay marriage. His own girlfriends have had abortions in the past and he supports domestic partnership for gays without calling it marriage. Duh - its' the same thing. But the code words appeal to his fundamentalist base without alienating too many swing voters from the LEFT

Very sharp politician and an absolutely diabolical man. He completely destroyed the democratic opposition while simultaneously lying to his own base.
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Old 03-31-2005, 01:55 PM   #46
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you guys a fucking idiots (the morons who think the USA gave up on bin laden), american troops hunt for bin laden every single day. I love the foreingers who hate Bush, Id like to see Bush pull the trigger on every single one of them shit talkers countries.
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Old 03-31-2005, 01:59 PM   #47
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Old 03-31-2005, 01:59 PM   #48
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Our country is ruined because of bush.

Bible thumping faggots and rednecks with no education re-elected him after watching fox news too much. (that or he stole the election illegally).
You are not really that stupid are you??
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Old 03-31-2005, 01:59 PM   #49
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you guys a fucking idiots (the morons who think the USA gave up on bin laden), american troops hunt for bin laden every single day. I love the foreingers who hate Bush, Id like to see Bush pull the trigger on every single one of them shit talkers countries.
Oh look another "lets go it alone" idiot.

Hey just FYI - how many troops are in Iraq? How many in afganastan? Oh thats right
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Old 03-31-2005, 02:06 PM   #50
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You are not really that stupid are you??
typical bush lover comment.

accusations but no real answers.

maybe you should apply for a job at the whitehouse.

btw, placed you on ignore list so I can't see your ignorance anymore.
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