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Thanks for the update Aly!
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I'm of course your strongest advocate, Juicy, but so far I haven't managed to sway them on the 'no-badge, no-entrance' thing. I wonder if we could convince a sponsor to rent a big limo for such things and park it right outside the hotel... 'Juicy's Brothel on Wheels' perhaps?! Good times! :thumbsup |
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Hi Aly,
First, a completely random pic from when we used to do the show: http://www.adultgossip.com/showpics/WIO/VertFTW.jpg Now a suggestion for all tradeshow providers. I registered for adtech free. Once it is a month before the big week, they jack the price up rediculously. It is a good combo and they pre-registered approx 40k attendees. Now they will bang the shit out of all of the people who decide last minute to go to adtech to meet up with one of those 40k pre-reg'd people.... Anyway, a hybrid of free and paid in the last month is the way to think outside the box and still the bang the shit our of everyone like you should since it is a for-profit enterprise in the first place. Begrudging tradeshows for making money is retarded. That is like being critical of american idol for guerilla marketing. And now another completely random pic from an avn show: http://www.adultgossip.com/showpics/...ThatLadies.jpg And now for a head's up that we have a pretty surprising model site coming out shortly. She is a crossover.... Peas Out! |
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Something that should also be figured in all this money is the kickback AVN probably receives on each room from the hotel. Why on earth would you hold a convention in Florida in the summer? Same reason for Vegas in January. (both off-season).
I don't knock them for trying to extract every possible dollar, but I'd rather they put more back into the show (never happen though). :-/ |
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LOL... What on earth do you think they're doing with their money if they're not putting it back into the show?! - Stashing it away somewhere just for fun? The reason you'd hold a convention anywhere in off-season is because that makes the room rates affordable for attendees. On top of that, Internext used the leverage of taking over the entire hotel to negotiate even lower rates than would otherwise be the case. |
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Keep us posted on the new model site... :thumbsup |
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and May I sincerely add...........FITTY :pimp |
Aly,
What is the expected attendance figures for Summer Internext? What were last years? What are you doing to improve attendance that you haven't done in the past? |
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Aly & Juicy's Brothel on Wheels would almost be enough to lure me to Florida in the summer time. Almost. |
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The entire show format has been changed in response to feedback from previous shows... my first post in this thread best answers the question of what we're doing differently. However, there has also been a conserted effort to use the show to expand the marketplace itself, by making sure that certain segments of the mainstream marketplace/ media are aware of Internext as well. We can't keep trading traffic between the same 5 people for ever. ;) |
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I think this show is going to rock! Good news all the way around! |
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sounds pretty damn great
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So I bring my wife, nanny, and kid. That is an extra $750 for them to just sit in the room?
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Hey Aly,
Do you know the 2006 winter dates. Need to plan my new years in Santa Domingo and recovery plan ;) Thanks, Mitch |
Wow, almost a meeeeeeeleon $$ in registration fee's. That's not bad at all.
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250 $ for attendees... I think this is way too much.. Many people don't go to seminars. Once you put your internext fee, Flight, hotel + meals, it makes a big difference for some about going or not...
150-175$ to get access to only showfloor is OK... Patty wanted to come with me this year, she doesn't care about seminars or booths, she just want to come with me and relax by the pool... 250$ just to access the pool is ridiculous... Aly, you know how I love ya Hon! but IMHO, AVN/Internext is pushing it a bit too far |
Call me stupid... but I just spent a weekend in Phoenix basically for free. I paid the hotel room of course, but sponsors pretty much paid for everything else. There was food, drinks, parties, games, activities, seminars, give-aways, etc, etc, etc, etc, and I didn't pay one penny towards a registration fee. I'm not against businesses making money by any means, but what exactly are these registration fees going towards? Is there some huge hidden fee that AVN is charged by the United States Government that all the other shows get a "get out of jail free" card from?
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3000, do not kid yourself.
Last Miami show I was at, I bet there were not over 1500 people at. |
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I don't have a full list of Internext costs to hand but, to name a few: the show has a huge contract with the hotel that includes lower room rates but makes the show liable for all rooms whether they're sold or not... this also includes fees for shutting hotel propreties off from the general public... the bars and restaurants and so on - it's kind of like a rental fee to rent an entire hotel; there's a seperate fee to rent the convention centre; there's a large insurance fee; temps are hired to run registration; a seperate company is hired to manage the online and on-site registration process; a decorator and labour are paid to deal with exhibits and signage etc; breakfast and lunch is included each day (which may be sponsored, but only in part because it's very steep); medics are paid to be on site incase of an emergency; there's a fee for setting up wireless coverage across the property; there's a strong marketing push, which costs money; there's also the overhead involved with running a trade show business... attorneys, salaries, health benefits, office space etc. I guarantee I'm missing a lot, but there are indeed costs to do this sort of thing. |
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That sounds like a lot of work just to get the show together Aly. But, uh, what exactly do YOU do again?? :winkwink: |
Thank you for the update, sweetie. It was great seeing you (albeit brief) in AZ. xoxo
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:1orglaugh ... Good bloody question! I thought I worked for a magazine! |
I think you have to ask yourself, are you going for business or is this a friggin vacation for you and your family? This is a "tradeshow" after all, and I'm not sure what business a family has attending this event. Ya, $250/person is expensive considering the spouse and kids aren't even going to the seminars or trade floor...but c'mon, if you want to spend time with them, meet them AFTER the show.
And I don't have kids myself, but judging from the nakedness at last year's show, there's no way in hell I would bring a child to an Adult show unless the kid was blindfolded the entire time. As for those business attendees bitching about the price: whether it's $2.50, $250.00, or $2500.00, remember you can write it off as a business expense. And if you are dead set on bringing the spouse, have him/her hand out flyers -- then write it off as an expense as well. Furthermore, it's not about the quantity of attendees, it's the quality of attendees. And judging from the effort that the AVN team has been putting in, the show is going to rock! AVN is attempting to reinvent the show based on all of our feedback. I too didn't care for the Florida show and thought Internext had been on a downward spiral for years. We were so concerned, Chandie and I recently had some AVN folks down for dinner just to speak our mind about it. And you know what? They listened! They have made some big changes. AVN is going to be a big show with the feel of a small show. Fun events, great information, and the chance to do business with the leaders in our industry. $250 is a bargain IMO, and for those that disagree with me, I have 3 words for you: http://adultprofitnetwork.com/misc/yp21.jpg Oh btw, hi Aly! Hope your allergies are better! ;-) |
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This change is a huge risk for Internext, but the change that's happening is in response to the requests of attendees; while some may dislike it, others support it. You can't please all of the people all of the time, but at least Internext is listening and responding accordingly. Oh, and the allergies suck! I think I may be allergic to the Valley... which is, of course, quite a believable possibility! :upsidedow |
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I love you Aly but Im done with Internext after the FIASCO that was called INternext in Vegas. I spent $22,000 on my space alone and was promised a good spot, which I had no idea what the spot was gonna be like. Well it turned out I was almost in an alley in the part where not many people went.
On top of everything NO ONE could barely get into the show the 1st day because of the IDIOTIC way things were set up for admissions. The floor was empty the entire 1st day. This along with both shows overlapping was uterrly rediculous. I may as well have just stood on top of the hotel and tossed $30,000 off the roof or at least bet it on black. The show was a disgrace and a step backwards. Im just gonna stick to AVN. Just buy my tickets for Internext. |
Aly i have a question, i usually send alot of models to the convention for shoots. There are tons of producers who shoot every day in their rooms. So are you saying that if a model wants to get a shoot with a producer in the hotel she has to pay $250 for a badge to goto a shoot that could be $300?? That is not fair to all the local talent down here who usually shoot at the conventions.
Also some of them just show up and get shoots when the producers see them, i myself have brought 5 or 6 girls with me at a time. Isn't there a way to have special access for models who have shoots or models looking for shoots? |
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Great question. Unfortunately I really don't have a great answer at this time... I've addressed this issue with the Internext managers and they're still chewing on it. Please do email me at [email protected] so I can send you a personal response when I have an answer. Really... please do. Thanks! |
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I'm sorry darling. I know the January show was disappointing to you because of the lines. They'd never been problematic in the past but were clearly an issue in Vegas... Personally I really would like to see you in attendance at the summer show though. I can't change the past, but at the very least I might be able to charge $30K in drinks to my room! Meet me at Satine's?! :upsidedow |
Shoot your content at a studio, not at a business convention you idiots.
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Hey Aly,
Great seeing you at the show in Phoenix. I have something we learned at our parties this past weekend. Instead of relying on the badge alone for security, add a heavy plastic wristband, so badges can't be traded out. You will cut down heavily on the people that bring others in. In the 4 parties we had over the last 4 days, the only issues at the parties were people who had snuck into the hotel, and two of them had badges they either found or had "aquired" The benefit is you can't lose a wrist band, and can't give it away. Good luck, and can't wait! |
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People traveling to conventions do not have studios in that area, and "not at a business convention" ??? what business is the convention about PORN, you idiot! That is just an idiotic statement! |
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