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  • iBanker
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2004
    • 2758

    #1

    Why JasonandAlex.com is leaving NATS.

    I will say it one more time here and now. This was not out to harm anyone, but when another man (John Albright, owner of NATS to my knowledge) calls our Company or any of its employees liars, I am forced to defend all. I speak the truth. We run a solid business built on firm ground, and I will have words (or initiate immediate legal action) with anyone the makes such defamatory claims saying otherwise.

    If anyone thinks NATS is UNSHAVEABLE then you need to see this. Here is a screencap of what NATS reports I should pay my affiliates for all rebills (recurring charges) for ELECTRACASH (one of our check processors)

    5 total rebills.



    Here is what ELECTRACASH says I should pay.

    275 total rebills.



    270 missing rebills because of NATS. FACT.

    Do you know how long it takes to even find that problem, and THEN cut separate checks for the affiliates to make sure you do the right thing and they get paid for their hard work? This is one of the many problems we had with NATS and one of the many reasons we moved far away from it.

    Now, you can expect John or one of his tech guys to jump on this board and give you all a line (or explanation depending on how you decide to view it) about how this is some security loophole, and it has to do with it being ELECTRACASH's fault, and so on. It always seemed to be someone else's fault when it came to the blame being pointed at NATS (and I have further proof of this as well). The only reason we went with Nats was because of the NO SHAVE feature.

    This is just the beginning?
    www.JasonandAlex.com
    Christopher's ICQ: 268-843-170
  • MickeyG
    Confirmed User
    • May 2004
    • 4134

    #2
    sig spot.

    seriously though, this is some crazy shit I was thinking of using NATS now im wondering if thats such a good idea. Guess I better do my homework first.
    Last edited by MickeyG; 03-29-2005, 09:55 AM.

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    • karlm
      Confirmed User
      • Jun 2004
      • 4194

      #3
      Drama for sure
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      • Fletch XXX
        GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
        • Jan 2002
        • 60840

        #4
        rut roh

        cheers


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        • triumph
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2002
          • 3433

          #5
          wow this could be a problem.

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          • TDF
            Triple OG nigga on GFY
            • Mar 2002
            • 27296

            #6
            thats a shitload of joins
            Sig heil

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            • wdsguy
              Ryde or Die
              • Dec 2002
              • 19568

              #7
              Heres a sig spot

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              • 69pornlinks
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2003
                • 5560

                #8
                okey dokey...8 pager?
                It IS what it IS

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                • TurboAngel
                  H.B.I.C.
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 30122

                  #9
                  Sig spot.


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                  • Fletch XXX
                    GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 60840

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 69pornlinks
                    okey dokey...8 pager?
                    at least 6.

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                    • cherrylula
                      lol
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 15969

                      #11
                      wow that's not good at all.

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                      • Sosa
                        In Tushy Land
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 40149

                        #12
                        that is a big time difference

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                        • Manowar
                          jellyfish  
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 71528

                          #13
                          Holy moly. Sig spot

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                          • iBanker
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 2758

                            #14
                            Now call me a liar. I speak the truth.
                            www.JasonandAlex.com
                            Christopher's ICQ: 268-843-170

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                            • European Lee
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 7133

                              #15
                              I told people NATs could still be used and the sponsor could shave sales several months ago... Did anyone listen? Nope

                              Regards,

                              Lee
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                              • Relish XXX
                                Confirmed User
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 4904

                                #16
                                I still think if I was going to run an affiliate program I would use www.executivestats.com as the demo I saw of it blew my mind.

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                                • Dirty F
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 59204

                                  #17
                                  Niiiiiiiiiiiiiicee...
                                  Just when i was bored.

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                                  • BVF
                                    Black Vagina Finder
                                    • Jan 2002
                                    • 13975

                                    #18
                                    This is why I'm sticking to the good old fashioned ccbill affiliate software...Transparency with no bullshit and most importantly, no extra work on my part.

                                    by the way.....See sig.
                                    Last edited by BVF; 03-29-2005, 09:59 AM.

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                                    • sonofsam
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Dec 2004
                                      • 18641

                                      #19
                                      i'm guessing this will be a 6 pager min....
                                      I like turtles.

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                                      • BVF
                                        Black Vagina Finder
                                        • Jan 2002
                                        • 13975

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by European Lee
                                        I told people NATs could still be used and the sponsor could shave sales several months ago... Did anyone listen? Nope

                                        Regards,

                                        Lee
                                        Yep I remember that thread and everybody jumped down your throat for it.

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                                        • xlogger
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2004
                                          • 9507

                                          #21
                                          O SNAPPPPPPPP SON!


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                                          • gregtx
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2002
                                            • 1929

                                            #22
                                            See Sig ;)
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                                            • eroswebmaster
                                              March 1st, 2003
                                              • Jul 2001
                                              • 20295

                                              #23
                                              weird wild stuff.
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                                              • TDF
                                                Triple OG nigga on GFY
                                                • Mar 2002
                                                • 27296

                                                #24
                                                sig spots secured..icq me to discuss prebookings!
                                                Sig heil

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                                                • Makingcoin
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 8919

                                                  #25
                                                  Would love to hear nats response to this!

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                                                  • SmokeyTheBear
                                                    ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                    • 28609

                                                    #26
                                                    very bad shady news. I said this along time ago when i noticed shitty stats with nats..

                                                    THE PROGRAM SHOULD NOTICE A SUDDEN INCREASE IN UNTRACKED SIGNUPS and a SUDDEN LOWERING OF AFFILIATE PAYOUTS

                                                    If they dont they know they are ripping people off.

                                                    And i think realitycash has already proven that nats can be shaved ( they werent shaving , but broken fhg's meant the nats was not tracked , ad they still got signups )
                                                    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                    • Makingcoin
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 8919

                                                      #27
                                                      Btw. Nats has been solid for us, we don't use electracash however.

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                                                      • Nader
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Dec 2003
                                                        • 5086

                                                        #28
                                                        Wow that's a big difference..so far so good with our NATS sys
                                                        Last edited by Nader; 03-29-2005, 10:03 AM.

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                                                        • European Lee
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                          • 7133

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by BVF
                                                          Yep I remember that thread and everybody jumped down your throat for it.
                                                          Fancy digging that thread up i cant find it LOL

                                                          Regards,

                                                          Lee
                                                          YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH
                                                          PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!!
                                                          AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT

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                                                          • 69pornlinks
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                            • 5560

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                            at least 6.
                                                            it will get PLENTY of views for a fact not too many replies...so i'll say 8 it'll die down after the PR starts.....


                                                            oh yeah REALITYCASH works great for TGP tarffic check it out
                                                            It IS what it IS

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                                                            • Yo Adrian
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                              • 6326

                                                              #31
                                                              Ohhh Shit!

                                                              Dayum Chris.. so this is what you wanted to tell me over the phone last week.. That's quite a few joins to be miscounted.
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                                                              • iBanker
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Dec 2004
                                                                • 2758

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Yo Adrian
                                                                Ohhh Shit!

                                                                Dayum Chris.. so this is what you wanted to tell me over the phone last week.. That's quite a few joins to be miscounted.
                                                                No, I wanted to talk to you about Arizona, thats all.
                                                                www.JasonandAlex.com
                                                                Christopher's ICQ: 268-843-170

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                                                                • StuartD
                                                                  Sofa King Band
                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                  • 29903

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I see a mushroom cloud on the horizon.....
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                                                                  • mahoney
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                    • 5318

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Wow, I predict this to be one long ass thread.
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                                                                    • European Lee
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                      • 7133

                                                                      #35
                                                                      http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=404688

                                                                      Enjoy

                                                                      Regards,

                                                                      Lee
                                                                      YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH
                                                                      PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!!
                                                                      AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT

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                                                                      • chupachups
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                                        • 6576

                                                                        #36
                                                                        popcorn?

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                                                                        • EddiePulp
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                          • 1332

                                                                          #37
                                                                          hmm very shady I must say. I Know of alot of programs that left MPA because of how dodgy MPA2 was ... but now NATS... hmm who can you trust... I'm very interested to hear NATS response to this.
                                                                          I dont need a sig.

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                                                                          • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                            ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                            • Jun 2004
                                                                            • 28609

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Makingcoin
                                                                            Btw. Nats has been solid for us, we don't use electracash however.

                                                                            The problem isnt with the sponsor , they do great , less payouts/more signups

                                                                            the problem is affliates aren't getting their cut.
                                                                            hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                            • Forest
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                                              • 9135

                                                                              #39
                                                                              ahh first page sig spot

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                                                                              • xlogger
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jul 2004
                                                                                • 9507

                                                                                #40
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                                                                                • Doctor Dre
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                  • 51692

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Now that's what I call some DRAMA ... outch
                                                                                  Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                  I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                  • fuzebox
                                                                                    making it rain
                                                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                                                    • 22351

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Are the majority of those untracked rebills from signups that were generated before you initially switched to NATS?

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                                                                                    • Yo Adrian
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                                                      • 6326

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by iBanker
                                                                                      No, I wanted to talk to you about Arizona, thats all.
                                                                                      Right on..
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                                                                                      • Makingcoin
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                                        • 8919

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                                        Are the majority of those untracked rebills from signups that were generated before you initially switched to NATS?
                                                                                        Good question.

                                                                                        www.MAKINGCOIN.com

                                                                                        icq. 166-662-831
                                                                                        "Start making large coin!"


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                                                                                        • shuki
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                          • 3070

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by EddiePulp
                                                                                          hmm very shady I must say. I Know of alot of programs that left MPA because of how dodgy MPA2 was ... but now NATS... hmm who can you trust... I'm very interested to hear NATS response to this.
                                                                                          I don't think this comes down to a trust issue for Nats at all. They have built a good reputation. What it looks like ( I am no expert) is that they are having a problem integrating all the different biller solutions effectivley.

                                                                                          I am looking at all 3 big solutions and will be watching closely
                                                                                          Looking to buy established paysites contact me [email protected]

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                                                                                          • Michael O
                                                                                            More Cowbell
                                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                                            • 10607

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by iBanker
                                                                                            I will say it one more time here and now. This was not out to harm anyone, but when another man (John Albright, owner of NATS to my knowledge) calls our Company or any of its employees liars, I am forced to defend all. I speak the truth. We run a solid business built on firm ground, and I will have words (or initiate immediate legal action) with anyone the makes such defamatory claims saying otherwise.

                                                                                            If anyone thinks NATS is UNSHAVEABLE then you need to see this. Here is a screencap of what NATS reports I should pay my affiliates for all rebills (recurring charges) for ELECTRACASH (one of our check processors)

                                                                                            5 total rebills.



                                                                                            Here is what ELECTRACASH says I should pay.

                                                                                            275 total rebills.



                                                                                            270 missing rebills because of NATS. FACT.

                                                                                            Do you know how long it takes to even find that problem, and THEN cut separate checks for the affiliates to make sure you do the right thing and they get paid for their hard work? This is one of the many problems we had with NATS and one of the many reasons we moved far away from it.

                                                                                            Now, you can expect John or one of his tech guys to jump on this board and give you all a line (or explanation depending on how you decide to view it) about how this is some security loophole, and it has to do with it being ELECTRACASH's fault, and so on. It always seemed to be someone else's fault when it came to the blame being pointed at NATS (and I have further proof of this as well). The only reason we went with Nats was because of the NO SHAVE feature.

                                                                                            This is just the beginning?
                                                                                            Some people always see the glass as half empty look at the bright side it counted 2% of the signups correctly.
                                                                                            Truth Teller

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                                                                                            • JSA Matt
                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                                                              • 5464

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                              the problem is affliates aren't getting their cut.
                                                                                              Exactly.

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                                                                                              • iBanker
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Dec 2004
                                                                                                • 2758

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                                                Are the majority of those untracked rebills from signups that were generated before you initially switched to NATS?
                                                                                                Nope...same date range from the launch....I invite ElectraCash to come on here and confirm this. We opened the Electracash account the same time we launched NATS.
                                                                                                www.JasonandAlex.com
                                                                                                Christopher's ICQ: 268-843-170

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                                                                                                • EvilFubAr
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                  • 1141

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Well, if you cant come up with your own stats program this is what you get.

                                                                                                  It amazes me to see affiliates using a sponsor program that cant manage their own system internally with their own software.

                                                                                                  Id stick with a program that is trusted and already knows how to pay their webmasters... having problems paying your webmasters whatever the excuse (NATS) may be is pathetic.

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                                                                                                  • shuki
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                                                                    • 3070

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by iBanker
                                                                                                    Nope...same date range from the launch....I invite ElectraCash to come on here and confirm this. We opened the Electracash account the same time we launched NATS.
                                                                                                    50 sig spot &

                                                                                                    Well that is good to know. One variable taken out of the picture
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