You're a class act Chris. You really are. We never once asked you to play "hush hush" We asked that you stopped with the lies and BS you are spreading which will eventually come out. And I'm not talkign about things that your thread is talking about. I'm talking about things much more above and beyond that.

We told you several times you should move to another software if you're not happy and we would do whatever we can to help you move to another solution. Somehow now you don't remember that.

I'm not continuing this thread with you. Spin it as you wish. Lie and bullshit as you wish. You're pretty good at it.

To prove that I am not lying:

Calling my attorney now to see what I "can" and "can't" post here.

Be right back guys.

whoaaaaa

It's getting hot in here...

So take a look at sig.

ai ai ai...

I have a feeling this day will write a little history.

I feel drama coming.......

so what did we learn?

1. j&a is fucking great
2. mpa3 is not as bad as some might think
3. go either mpa3 or nats

seems like a big win-win marketing thread here. hot air, nothing more. some companies which want to make themselves very important. congrats, you got attention!

In the interest of bullshit politics......I'm just gonna sit back and watch this one play out without my encouragement.

May the most honest team win! :thumbsup

You know...Not everything that is posted on GFY is done so to gain attention. The J&A program has been around for awhile and is not in the habit of fueling publicity threads for self gain.

Yes, sure.

Wow...what a powerful and convincing argument that you bring to the table. Is this the part where I cave in to your superior intellect?

I've worked with Jason and Alex - they're honest, straightforward guys; it's plainly obvious this thread wasn't started with drama in mind - just a simple announcement.

I don't know shit about the situation, but I do know about J&A - I know they're tough, demanding guys who expect things to be done right. Perhaps NATS couldn't fulfill their expectations. Who knows, maybe MPA3 can't fulfill it either.

But if something doesn't work right, who's fault is it? If your product doesn't fulfill your customers needs, do you try and "fix" it (assuming they have a legitimate gripe) or do you "ask" (ha ha) them to stop using your software? That just doesn't make any sense.

To be fair, I've looked into the NATS software and seems very nice, though I haven't put it through any kind of real-world tests.

My two cents.

Congrat's with the new back-end and the redesign of the sites guy's. We have been kicking ass with you guys and this should even make it better :thumbsup



Mike.......

You are correct. You try to make the customer happy which we tried time and time again. Unforunately it wasn't happening so we said that maybe they would be more happy with another product and that we would do all we could to help them make a smooth transition. You can't please everyone. Hopefully they will be happy where they are now.

I second what BigE said.

WHat's amp site? ampieza is down

yo Andre,get on msn :)

www.jasonandalex.com :glugglug

http://www.ampiezza.com/

Nothing there for you to see though : )

It's ampiezza.com but it's just a front page... he doesn't have a portfolio up that i'm aware of if that's what you're looking for.

And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold, a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and hell followed with him.


There's nothing like a nice piece of hickory.

Ah...A random thought of the day.

Here is my favorite Amp....LOL

"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

are you trying to tell me now that you're GOD???? come on... I know you think you're special but God? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I will say it one more time here and now. This was not out to harm anyone, but when another man (John Albright, owner of NATS to my knowledge) calls our Company or any of its employees liars, I am forced to defend all. I speak the truth. We run a solid business built on firm ground, and I will have words (or initiate immediate legal action) with anyone the makes such defamatory claims saying otherwise.

If anyone thinks NATS is UNSHAVEABLE then you need to see this. Here is a screencap of what NATS reports I should pay my affiliates for all rebills (recurring charges) for ELECTRACASH (one of our check processors)

5 total rebills.

http://www.jasonandalex.com/images/nats/nats01.jpg

Here is what ELECTRACASH says I should pay.

275 total rebills.

http://www.jasonandalex.com/images/nats/nats02.jpg

270 missing rebills because of NATS. FACT.

Do you know how long it takes to even find that problem, and THEN cut separate checks for the affiliates to make sure you do the right thing and they get paid for their hard work? This is one of the many problems we had with NATS and one of the many reasons we moved far away from it.

Now, you can expect John or one of his tech guys to jump on this board and give you all a line (or explanation depending on how you decide to view it) about how this is some security loophole, and it has to do with it being ELECTRACASH's fault, and so on. It always seemed to be someone else's fault when it came to the blame being pointed at NATS (and I have further proof of this as well). The only reason we went with Nats was because of the NO SHAVE feature.

This is just the beginning?

Very nice designs and I love the stock option program

A very interesting thread that bucks the trend of the last for months.

:Oh crap this is gonna be memorable...

Slow down on the ICQs guys....my computer is going crash...

..............lol

I assume both are over the same time frame:) Anyway, what was the reason NATS was giving, and did they fix it in some kind of update?

Andre

No Andre, this problem was originally addressed by us, to them in part on Wednesday, November 3, 2004 at 09:55:20PM, and that is when it began.

It was still not fixed when we made the move just recently. That is well over 4 months. If proof is needed, we have screencaps of that initial ticket as well.

And yes, time frames are the same of course.

Interesting - back when NATS hit the scene there were a number of complaints from affiliates of other sponsors that their ratios started to suck big time under NATS and they were all dissed or smokescreened.

Seems that was a little more too it than sheer imagination and first page hits - but then anyone who counted outgoing clicks knew that.

So all 275 sales were affiliate sales? You didn't have any sales from your own traffic?

Of course they were not, but it made it that much harder to find out whos belonged to who.

Thanks for the reply

And I never said they were.

Don't take me wrong, I'm not making accusations. I'm trying to follow the story. I didn't mean anything derogatory by the statement.

I have a vested interested in NATS as well, so I have a sincere concern.

And I do apologize for being so short. Didn't mean for it to come accross that way :)

No hard feelings, I hope everything on your end is working well for you and yours.

Alex and I will be in Phoenix. Anyone that would like to talk with us, call to set up some time. We will do our best :)

Chris
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