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JSA Matt · 03-28-2005, 06:06 PM

Thanks everyone for the support

I'm just going to sneak in here and let you guys know we got some fresh designs from AMP for some of our old sites... FreshAmateurFaces and JismJunkies

ps..... 50 reasons to <censored>

shuki · 03-28-2005, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JSA Matt

Thanks everyone for the support

I'm just going to sneak in here and let you guys know we got some fresh designs from AMP for some of our old sites... FreshAmateurFaces and JismJunkies

ps..... 50 reasons to <censored>

looking good

Jace · 03-28-2005, 06:16 PM

i personally like the mpa3 software, but I also dig the new nats.....they are both great solid pieces of software....

iBanker · 03-28-2005, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX

i personally like the mpa3 software, but I also dig the new nats.....they are both great solid pieces of software....

I'll let you know if I see some major differences. So far I can see a few, but this needs to be tested much more to be considered more reliable information.

Will bite my tounge for now.

iBanker · 03-28-2005, 07:48 PM

Okay guys, no more phone calls for the day, gotta go home and eat, 7:00pm-ish here. I will try and check my icqs around 9-10pm. Talk to the rest of you in the morning. 14 messages....lol

Chris

bigdog · 03-28-2005, 07:49 PM

intresting idea about not having any free trailers on your new tour

Nader · 03-28-2005, 08:03 PM

i like your design do you mind telling me who did them?

thx

iBanker · 03-28-2005, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdog

intresting idea about not having any free trailers on your new tour

I'll let you know how its working after a couple more months. It is something we implemented a while back. Less can be more sometimes, when it comes to enticing the surfer to buy, and long as you give them more than expected on the back-end.

iBanker · 03-28-2005, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay_Nader

i like your design do you mind telling me who did them?

thx

The one and only AMP of course. He normally signs the pages at the bottom, I will have to check if he did... "BULT BY AMP"

iBanker · 03-28-2005, 08:19 PM

okay, really, gotta go now...

shuki · 03-28-2005, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay_Nader

i like your design do you mind telling me who did them?

thx

I think AMP did them

Spunky · 03-28-2005, 08:49 PM

congrats and good luck..looking good

undermyspell · 03-28-2005, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay_Nader

i like your design do you mind telling me who did them?

thx

The eccentric and always controversial Amp does all of our design work. If you are unaware as to Amp's background you can do a search for Amputate Your Head... he is one of the most flamboyant and brilliant designers i've ever worked with and it's been one hell of a ride so far.

To all those concerned with the change it's been a really nice transition that has been extremely smooth.

Sosa · 03-28-2005, 09:22 PM

can't wait to get started with the work

thanks for talking today

Pornwolf · 03-28-2005, 09:32 PM

OOooohhh! A merchant account! Better conversions! Congrats!

iBanker · 03-28-2005, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sosa

can't wait to get started with the work

thanks for talking today

It was a pleasure talking to you as well. If you need anything else, you have my info. Thanks again for your trust in us with your traffic.

Chris

iBanker · 03-28-2005, 11:55 PM

ps...I see all the ICQs now that I am back home guys and gals, but its 11pm, and I am going to call it a night so I can be in early tomorrow morning, I will get back to the rest of you with questions then. Thanks for understanding.

Chris

peter_mansion · 03-29-2005, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Oystein

I want to express my sincere and humbled thanks to Jasonandalex.com for choosing MPA3 as their affiliate program and stats tracking backend. We have been thoroughly impressed by the professionalism shown by everyone at JSA during the course of the transition over to their new backend and look forward to being the best we can for them over the years to come.

Oystein

It was real pleasure working with them from techical point of view. Their tech Matt is extremely good and Chris & Alex were fantastic.
Any company can easily cooperate with these guys - they simply rock.

SomeCreep · 03-29-2005, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex From San Diego

We would be stupid to think everyone would be happy but we would be curious as to why you feel that way?

Thanks

Interesting. This is the first time I hear of a big affiliate program switching from NATS to MPA3. Personally, I prefer NATS over MPA3, mainly because MPA3 has a built in shaving feature, which can serve absolutely no good purpose for affiliates.

Good luck with the new software though, I hope it continues to show overall improvement for you guys

Drake · 03-29-2005, 03:59 AM

Your new sites look amazing Alex.

undermyspell · 03-29-2005, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Interesting. This is the first time I hear of a big affiliate program switching from NATS to MPA3. Personally, I prefer NATS over MPA3, mainly because MPA3 has a built in shaving feature, which can serve absolutely no good purpose for affiliates.

Good luck with the new software though, I hope it continues to show overall improvement for you guys

Sorry, I have to correct you. MPA3 does not have a built in shave feature and i've been over it with a fine tooth comb. You are confusing it with an earlier version of MPA. The shave feature was totally removed. And, just for the record. Any software can be modified regardless of whether it's NATS, MPA or whatever and if you don't believe that all you have to do is dissect the code and scrutinize the day to day operations of various software and at what point it breaks down and becomes a less viable solution for businesses.

You also have to remember that shaving comes in all forms. It can be done without the program's consent or knowledge. For instance a program could be "tied" into a 3rd party biller only to discover that the revenue earned by affiliates isn't properly being dispersed. Sometimes it isn't dishonesty that causes shaving it's an incompetence factor on the programmer's/developers end. It's the operators of the software and the program's trustworthiness that dictates the implementation and use of a shave feature. Many programs using MPA2 never used the shave feature and some even had it totally removed. So, to blacklist a company for features in a software from the past is rediculous.

However, I can understand your concerns but you can rest assured that our books are totally open to the public for scrutiny at any time because we have filed with the SEC to become a publicly traded company and that requires us to give access to our accounting and reconciliations. We also invite anyone that would like to see our admin or program in person to contact us for directions to our office. Unfortunately we can't give access remotely because of security issues but we will gladly host any of you as our guest to review our entire program.

Alex From San Diego · 03-29-2005, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

Your new sites look amazing Alex.

Thanks Mike. Amp knows what he is doing when it comes to design.

Tipsy · 03-29-2005, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Interesting. This is the first time I hear of a big affiliate program switching from NATS to MPA3. Personally, I prefer NATS over MPA3, mainly because MPA3 has a built in shaving feature, which can serve absolutely no good purpose for affiliates.

Have to love comments by the clueless.

To save retyping crap my own view on it from an ICQ conversation I was having....

***: But will people trust mpaX ?
tipsy: thats the problem but to an extent more fool them
tipsy: MPA learnt a very hard lesson and are highly unlikely to repeat the mistake so I'd trust them more than most at the moment
***: Oh yes
***: And people have a short attention span/memory
tipsy: true - then you gotta take into account it's all about bottom line/sales and if that increases, cant see how the system they use matters
tipsy: Of course there are many not bright enough to see that. Their loss and for the most part they'll not send many /any sales anyway so more for the rest of us

Now may just have to get my ass into gear and retry J&A again.

bigdog · 03-29-2005, 08:24 AM

i can see many people looking at mpa3 now thanks to JA

Theo · 03-29-2005, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by NichePay_Nader

i like your design do you mind telling me who did them?

thx

america's most wanted

TMM_John · 03-29-2005, 08:39 AM

We will not be commenting in these threads. If anyone wants to speak with us regarding it they can reach us via phone or icq. Jason and Alex were asked to move away from NATS several times over the past 2 months. We thank them for finally doing so and we wish them luck.

iBanker · 03-29-2005, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

We will not be commenting in these threads. If anyone wants to speak with us regarding it they can reach us via phone or icq. Jason and Alex were asked to move away from NATS several times over the past 2 months. We thank them for finally doing so and we wish them luck.

You asked us to move? That is news to us. My recolection is different as to why we moved. I'm willing to air it all out here, you will most likely stay just on the phone with others, where you can "control" the conversation.

Regardless Albright, look at the bright side, we don't have to complain about everything we hated about your software, and you don't have to make somewhat futile attempts at trying to fix it anymore. So it is a win-win situation.

TMM_John · 03-29-2005, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by iBanker

You asked us to move? That is news to us. My recolection is different as to why we moved. I'm willing to air it all out here, you will most likely stay just on the phone with others, where you can "control" the conversation.

Regardless Albright, look at the bright side, we don't have to complain about everything we hated about your software, and you don't have to make somewhat futile attempts at trying to fix it anymore. So it is a win-win situation.

I'm not going to bicker with you on the boards as it won't get either of us anywhere. Good luck in the future with your program.

AaronM · 03-29-2005, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JSA Matt

keep it up and you'll get the hose again

How can I get in on some of this head/hose action from you?

iBanker · 03-29-2005, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

I'm not going to bicker with you on the boards as it won't get either of us anywhere. Good luck in the future with your program.

If you don't want to "bicker" with us here on the boards, than stay off the thread.

People should know you are in the wrong for one simple reason:

NEVER, IN THE HISTORY OF NATS, HAVE YOU STAYED AWAY FROM A NEGATIVE NATS THREAD, SINCE YOU GUYS WERE OPERATIONAL. FUNNY HOW THIS TIME YOU JUST WAITING AND WATCHED.

Why come here and spread a brutal lie that you ASKED us to move away from nats? That is bullshit and you know it. I can back up everything I have said here with proof, and I do hope you are intelligent enough to know that.

I wonder if you will call Alex and I again this morning and threaten us to "play hush hush".

There is not an agenda to bring your company to its knees, but backing me into a corner by spreading false allegations, will surely do you no good in the end. It is bad business. You should know better.

TMM_John · 03-29-2005, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by iBanker

If you don't want to "bicker" with us here on the boards, than stay off the thread.

People should know you are in the wrong for one simple reason:

NEVER, IN THE HISTORY OF NATS, HAVE YOU STAYED AWAY FROM A NEGATIVE NATS THREAD, SINCE YOU GUYS WERE OPERATIONAL. FUNNY HOW THIS TIME YOU JUST WAITING AND WATCHED.

Why come here and spread a brutal lie that you ASKED us to move away from nats? That is bullshit and you know it. I can back up everything I have said here with proof, and I do hope you are intelligent enough to know that.

I wonder if you will call Alex and I again this morning and threaten us to "play hush hush".

There is not an agenda to bring your company to its knees, but backing me into a corner by spreading false allegations, will surely do you no good in the end. It is bad business. You should know better.

You're a class act Chris. You really are. We never once asked you to play "hush hush" We asked that you stopped with the lies and BS you are spreading which will eventually come out. And I'm not talkign about things that your thread is talking about. I'm talking about things much more above and beyond that.

We told you several times you should move to another software if you're not happy and we would do whatever we can to help you move to another solution. Somehow now you don't remember that.

I'm not continuing this thread with you. Spin it as you wish. Lie and bullshit as you wish. You're pretty good at it.

iBanker · 03-29-2005, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

You're a class act Chris. You really are. We never once asked you to play "hush hush" We asked that you stopped with the lies and BS you are spreading which will eventually come out. And I'm not talkign about things that your thread is talking about. I'm talking about things much more above and beyond that.

We told you several times you should move to another software if you're not happy and we would do whatever we can to help you move to another solution. Somehow now you don't remember that.

I'm not continuing this thread with you. Spin it as you wish. Lie and bullshit as you wish. You're pretty good at it.

To prove that I am not lying:

Calling my attorney now to see what I "can" and "can't" post here.

Be right back guys.

TDF · 03-29-2005, 09:59 AM

whoaaaaa

candyflip · 03-29-2005, 10:05 AM

It's getting hot in here...

So take a look at sig.

JOKER · 03-29-2005, 10:16 AM

ai ai ai...

I have a feeling this day will write a little history.

Bomber8888 · 03-29-2005, 10:22 AM

I feel drama coming.......

Terenzo · 03-29-2005, 10:24 AM

so what did we learn?

1. j&a is fucking great
2. mpa3 is not as bad as some might think
3. go either mpa3 or nats

seems like a big win-win marketing thread here. hot air, nothing more. some companies which want to make themselves very important. congrats, you got attention!

AaronM · 03-29-2005, 10:25 AM

In the interest of bullshit politics......I'm just gonna sit back and watch this one play out without my encouragement.

May the most honest team win!

AaronM · 03-29-2005, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Terenzo

so what did we learn?

1. j&a is fucking great
2. mpa3 is not as bad as some might think
3. go either mpa3 or nats

seems like a big win-win marketing thread here. hot air, nothing more. some companies which want to make themselves very important. congrats, you got attention!

You know...Not everything that is posted on GFY is done so to gain attention. The J&A program has been around for awhile and is not in the habit of fueling publicity threads for self gain.

Terenzo · 03-29-2005, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

The J&A program has been around for awhile and is not in the habit of fueling publicity threads for self gain.

Yes, sure.

AaronM · 03-29-2005, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Terenzo

Yes, sure.

Wow...what a powerful and convincing argument that you bring to the table. Is this the part where I cave in to your superior intellect?

Big E · 03-29-2005, 10:44 AM

I've worked with Jason and Alex - they're honest, straightforward guys; it's plainly obvious this thread wasn't started with drama in mind - just a simple announcement.

I don't know shit about the situation, but I do know about J&A - I know they're tough, demanding guys who expect things to be done right. Perhaps NATS couldn't fulfill their expectations. Who knows, maybe MPA3 can't fulfill it either.

But if something doesn't work right, who's fault is it? If your product doesn't fulfill your customers needs, do you try and "fix" it (assuming they have a legitimate gripe) or do you "ask" (ha ha) them to stop using your software? That just doesn't make any sense.

To be fair, I've looked into the NATS software and seems very nice, though I haven't put it through any kind of real-world tests.

My two cents.

Mike D · 03-29-2005, 10:45 AM

Congrat's with the new back-end and the redesign of the sites guy's. We have been kicking ass with you guys and this should even make it better

Mike.......

TMM_John · 03-29-2005, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Big E

I've worked with Jason and Alex - they're honest, straightforward guys; it's plainly obvious this thread wasn't started with drama in mind - just a simple announcement.

I don't know shit about the situation, but I do know about J&A - I know they're tough, demanding guys who expect things to be done right. Perhaps NATS couldn't fulfill their expectations. Who knows, maybe MPA3 can't fulfill it either.

But if something doesn't work right, who's fault is it? If your product doesn't fulfill your customers needs, do you try and "fix" it (assuming they have a legitimate gripe) or do you "ask" (ha ha) them to stop using your software? That just doesn't make any sense.

To be fair, I've looked into the NATS software and seems very nice, though I haven't put it through any kind of real-world tests.

My two cents.

You are correct. You try to make the customer happy which we tried time and time again. Unforunately it wasn't happening so we said that maybe they would be more happy with another product and that we would do all we could to help them make a smooth transition. You can't please everyone. Hopefully they will be happy where they are now.

Theo · 03-29-2005, 10:50 AM

I second what BigE said.

justsexxx · 03-29-2005, 10:55 AM

WHat's amp site? ampieza is down

Theo · 03-29-2005, 10:58 AM

yo Andre,get on msn

AaronM · 03-29-2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

WHat's amp site? ampieza is down

www.jasonandalex.com

Alex From San Diego · 03-29-2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

WHat's amp site? ampieza is down

http://www.ampiezza.com/

Nothing there for you to see though : )

undermyspell · 03-29-2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

WHat's amp site? ampieza is down

It's ampiezza.com but it's just a front page... he doesn't have a portfolio up that i'm aware of if that's what you're looking for.

03-28-2005, 07:48 PM	#55
iBanker Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego, moving to Portland. Posts: 2,758	Okay guys, no more phone calls for the day, gotta go home and eat, 7:00pm-ish here. I will try and check my icqs around 9-10pm. Talk to the rest of you in the morning. 14 messages....lol Chris __________________ www.JasonandAlex.com Christopher's ICQ: 268-843-170

03-28-2005, 08:19 PM	#60
iBanker Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego, moving to Portland. Posts: 2,758	okay, really, gotta go now... __________________ www.JasonandAlex.com Christopher's ICQ: 268-843-170

03-28-2005, 08:49 PM	#62
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03-28-2005, 09:32 PM	#65
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	OOooohhh! A merchant account! Better conversions! Congrats! __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

03-28-2005, 11:55 PM	#67
iBanker Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego, moving to Portland. Posts: 2,758	ps...I see all the ICQs now that I am back home guys and gals, but its 11pm, and I am going to call it a night so I can be in early tomorrow morning, I will get back to the rest of you with questions then. Thanks for understanding. Chris __________________ www.JasonandAlex.com Christopher's ICQ: 268-843-170

03-28-2005, 06:06 PM	#51
JSA Matt So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 5,464	Thanks everyone for the support I'm just going to sneak in here and let you guys know we got some fresh designs from AMP for some of our old sites... FreshAmateurFaces and JismJunkies ps..... 50 reasons to <censored>

03-28-2005, 06:16 PM	#53
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	i personally like the mpa3 software, but I also dig the new nats.....they are both great solid pieces of software....

03-28-2005, 07:49 PM	#56
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	intresting idea about not having any free trailers on your new tour

03-28-2005, 08:03 PM	#57
Nader Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 5,086	i like your design do you mind telling me who did them? thx

03-28-2005, 09:22 PM	#64
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	can't wait to get started with the work thanks for talking today

03-29-2005, 03:59 AM	#70
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	Your new sites look amazing Alex.

03-29-2005, 08:24 AM	#74
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	i can see many people looking at mpa3 now thanks to JA

03-29-2005, 08:39 AM	#76
TMM_John Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,660	We will not be commenting in these threads. If anyone wants to speak with us regarding it they can reach us via phone or icq. Jason and Alex were asked to move away from NATS several times over the past 2 months. We thank them for finally doing so and we wish them luck. __________________ Skype: JohnA1078 Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

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03-29-2005, 10:16 AM	#85
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03-29-2005, 10:24 AM	#87
Terenzo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 971	so what did we learn? 1. j&a is fucking great 2. mpa3 is not as bad as some might think 3. go either mpa3 or nats seems like a big win-win marketing thread here. hot air, nothing more. some companies which want to make themselves very important. congrats, you got attention!

03-29-2005, 10:25 AM	#88
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	In the interest of bullshit politics......I'm just gonna sit back and watch this one play out without my encouragement. May the most honest team win!

03-29-2005, 10:44 AM	#92
Big E Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 935	I've worked with Jason and Alex - they're honest, straightforward guys; it's plainly obvious this thread wasn't started with drama in mind - just a simple announcement. I don't know shit about the situation, but I do know about J&A - I know they're tough, demanding guys who expect things to be done right. Perhaps NATS couldn't fulfill their expectations. Who knows, maybe MPA3 can't fulfill it either. But if something doesn't work right, who's fault is it? If your product doesn't fulfill your customers needs, do you try and "fix" it (assuming they have a legitimate gripe) or do you "ask" (ha ha) them to stop using your software? That just doesn't make any sense. To be fair, I've looked into the NATS software and seems very nice, though I haven't put it through any kind of real-world tests. My two cents.

03-29-2005, 10:45 AM	#93
Mike D Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,133	Congrat's with the new back-end and the redesign of the sites guy's. We have been kicking ass with you guys and this should even make it better Mike....... __________________ Mike D

03-29-2005, 10:50 AM	#95
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	I second what BigE said.

03-29-2005, 10:55 AM	#96
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	WHat's amp site? ampieza is down __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

03-29-2005, 10:58 AM	#97
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	yo Andre,get on msn