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DA2	03-28-2005 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Sure....but again.....if the price is 4.95 trial rebilling at 39.95 and the surfer thinks that's too expensive then they'll leave without entering info.

They're either going to get the trial signup or not....this way they collect the info from more people which is more $$ to them.

*Edit*
Also forgot to add.....a 4.95 trial is worth -30.00 to them the first day....since they're paying you $35 a sale.
The member info is worth a couple of bucks and they didn't have to pay you anything for it.

Just some food for thought.

I know where you are coming from and it was alot more relevant a few years ago. Im willing to guess the "info" is not worth more than 30cents now days. Even with a 30% confirm rate (which would be high on a pre checked "Do you want to recieve free pics in your email" confirm mail on a double optin)
You can will only get $1 per a confirm so you are lookin at about 30 cents an "info" :)

Snake Doctor

03-28-2005 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DA2

I'm not even talking about the "do you want free pics in your email" boxes.
I'm talking about the "enter username, enter password, enter email, click here to join" forms.

If you think nobody mails to those email addresses you're smoking some good shit.

venus

03-28-2005 12:33 AM

Anyone can be a consultant, or an "optimizer" or what ever, what you have to ask them is what makes him/her such and what can he do to make it better.
you can get an increase of 15% just by using targeted traffic with your current join page.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Za Ha

In Vegas, I spoke to a guy who was at his first convention. He works in mainstream and optimizes join pages. He said an increase of 15% was possible if done right.

Too bad I didnt get his name.

venus

03-28-2005 12:45 AM

the info is gold if the person did not join.
Also I do nto put trial subscriptions on my join page, I would prefer they join for the full price first.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DA2

The "info" is not worth anywhere near the trial is. .

venus

03-28-2005 01:07 AM

here is my current join page, works for me
http://www.landofvenus.com/join-venus.html

Morgan

03-28-2005 01:13 AM

Im sure it's been said a hundred times already in these responses, but it's good to brag about what's inside and show exactly what they get when they join. The more shit it looks like you have inside, the better.

My join pages have an include that displays all the sites in our network, and some blurbs about how we add new content all the time and new sites all the time.

If you offer an all access deal, that has to help.

Otherwise, keep it clean and simple. One thing im curious about is collecting their signup info on multiple pages. Username/Password initially, then hitting them up with the rest of the fields on the next page....

w0rstluk

03-28-2005 01:19 AM

man that sig really hurts my eyes ganj ;[

w0rstluk

03-28-2005 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Steen2

Cyberage's is long, the join is at the bottom. Good with the text terms outlines but too long and too many images (too complex).

there is an option to to make a shorter join for them, that link was for moreinfo=1 :thumbsup

Paul Markham

03-28-2005 01:25 AM

The basics are ABC, Always Be Closing.

But when selling there is a time to shut your mouth and stay quiet. Otherwise you will put off the buyer.

But then how many click on the join page as the next in the tour, not thinking it's a join page?

IMO Just a gentle reminder of what the site holds is best, X number of sets, Y number of videos and Z of what ever else, is best. We show my magazine front covers and a few testimonials which I think shoud go.

Shap	03-28-2005 09:12 AM

:thumbsup

sexyclicks

03-28-2005 09:15 AM

50 join pages

Furious_Male

03-28-2005 09:30 AM

Great thread. I think some of the bigger programs can learn something from what has been shared here.

PhounTho

03-30-2005 12:16 AM

Here's a nice join page. http://creamedcuties.com/join/

Not mine.

Shap	03-30-2005 12:51 AM

We've made some recent join page changes that have really helped sales. The custom ccbill join form is AWESOME! What a huge difference. :thumbsup

andrej_NDC

03-30-2005 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charly

But when selling there is a time to shut your mouth and stay quiet. Otherwise you will put off the buyer.

best post! exactly, you have the surfer where you want him, he is ready to join, so dont scare him away, he is horny, he wont read much anyway, make it as easy as possible for him.

$5 submissions

03-30-2005 06:10 PM

I outlined a campaign finetuning method that uses an evolutionary and statistical approach. It's outlined at http://kblogger.com/blog/index.php/weblog/C48/

Quote:

Originally Posted by shap

Hi Everyone. Hope you all had a Happy Easter. I've been thinking all weekend long about Join Pages. So here's my question
How Much Difference does the design of a Join Page Make?

I've done alot of research and you'd be surprised by what is out there. Alot of the bigger sites that are getting huge sales look like they've spent little time on their join page. I've also noticed alot of sites using ccbill don't even bother to take advantage of their custom join form, they are using the standard join form. So how much of a difference does the design of the join page make? 5%? 10%? 15%? Have any of you tested this out?

From my research I would say most paysites spend very little time fine tuning their join page and alot of time fine tuning the tour. Is this a smart move? I've seen our numbers and personally I think Join Pages can make a HUGE difference in closing the deal. Easily a 10 to 15% difference in sales. Anybody else see this?

And lastly what are some of the best Join pages you've seen?

Hopefully this will turn in to a good little discussion. :thumbsup

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