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DarkJedi 03-27-2005 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
why the fuck would I bet you..

That's what i though. You're a loud mouth dwarf faggot with no game.

aico 03-27-2005 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by damian2001
Read this.... Its a letter from a staff nurse in a hospital in Scotland

It explains what happens better than I can

http://www.euthanasia.cc/mail22.html

And trust me nursing is a very real job.....

Ask the 5 Drs in your family if this dosnt happen, almost every day..... u may be surprised at the answer

OWNED... good work.

fünkmaster 03-27-2005 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
How does it feel to get up in the morning and think to yourself, "95% of the people on Earth are smarter than me"

Moron.

...make that 99% and I would once more agree with you.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

DarkJedi 03-27-2005 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by damian2001
Read this.... Its a letter from a staff nurse in a hospital in Scotland

It explains what happens better than I can

http://www.euthanasia.cc/mail22.html

LOL, you kiddnig me ?
Some nurse on a .cc domain says that euthanasia is legal versus a Law adobted by US Congress ?

:1orglaugh

aico 03-27-2005 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
That's what i though. You're a loud mouth dwarf faggot with no game.

Again with the name calling... Hey, wasn't it you that just made the statement that name calling doesn't mean shit? Do you even realize how stupid it makes you to say something like that and then do exactly what you just said didn't mean shit?? Are you sure you understand Laws?

aico 03-27-2005 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
LOL, you kiddnig me ?
Some nurse on a .cc domain says that euthanasia is legal versus a Law adobted by US Congress ?

:1orglaugh

I have never seen one person miss the point more than you... He NEVER said it was legal you moron... He Said that Doctors do it all the fucking time... jesus christ, read it, think about it, mull over it a bit, think about it somemore, then comment on it...

Damian_Maxcash 03-27-2005 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
LOL, you kiddnig me ?
Some nurse on a .cc domain says that euthanasia is legal versus a Law adobted by US Congress ?

:1orglaugh

lol.... I have nothing to prove here.... I know the way the system works, and it really dosnt matter to me if you believe that or not

Ask the Drs family in your family if this happens.... It may educate you

DarkJedi 03-27-2005 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
I have never seen one person miss the point more than you... He NEVER said it was legal you moron... He Said that Doctors do it all the fucking time... jesus christ, read it, think about it, mull over it a bit, think about it somemore, then comment on it...

And you missed my fucking point - it is illegal.
They can do it all they want, but they're commiting a felony.

DarkJedi 03-27-2005 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by damian2001
lol.... I have nothing to prove here.... I know the way the system works, and it really dosnt matter to me if you believe that or not

Ask the Drs family in your family if this happens.... It may educate you

I don't give a shit if it happens or not - it's against the law.

People kill each other every day, but it doesnt make it legal.

baddog 03-27-2005 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PussyMan
And if a living will/DNR is not available, then your next of kin should make the decision.


He is the next of kin, whether you agree or not. Next.

aico 03-27-2005 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
And you missed my fucking point - it is illegal.
They can do it all they want, but they're commiting a felony.

So, then if that is true, wouldn't the person who removed the feeding tube, therefore causing her death, be commiting a felony? Or did a Rogue Robot remove it?

baddog 03-27-2005 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex
Why dont you post that a few more times.


Why don't you keep saying we should put her down like a dog a few more times?

uno 03-27-2005 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex
When our pets (dogs/cats) are in terminall pain we are allowed to put them out in with out letting them suffer through pain.

Our criminals have a choice of a painless leathel injection.

But a normal human being has to be started to death.

Thank the good people of religion. This is "god's way".

baddog 03-27-2005 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PussyMan
Because there is no absolute proof that this is what she wants.
Just like I oppose abortion but I support the right of a woman to choose.


Ask around, see if you can find anyone that would?

Clicky_Bucks 03-27-2005 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
And you missed my fucking point - it is illegal.
They can do it all they want, but they're commiting a felony.

Actually, that wasn't your point. Do some more backtracking. I've never seen someone own themselves so completely.

baddog 03-27-2005 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PussyMan
Then we should make euthanasia legal when it is requested by a sane and conscious individual. I would have no problem with that :2 cents:


I am sure Dr "Death" Krikorian would agree, write your congressman

uno 03-27-2005 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PussyMan
Media are not pissed at the fact that she is being starved to death, only FoxNews is, other media are perfectly ok with that.
I am pissed at the fact that her demented husband who obviously has left her many many years ago to redo his life (which is perfectly normal given the circumstances) is still legally her guardian when he should have given the guardianship to her parents. That I truely do not understand.

Why should he have given up guardianship? This is what his wife wanted. This wish has been reviewed and supported by a court, held up by an appellate court, and poured over by almost 20 other courts which all support the poor husband. This poor guy is public enemy number 1 in many people's eyes for carrying out the wishes of his vegetable wife. No one will EVER forget this and he will become the posterboy for whackos and the right to life crowd holding him up for scorn and contempt.

Should there be a better option than pulling out her tube(aritificial and extraordinary means of life support)? Absolutely. I really hope this starts a new euthanasia and assisted suicide debate. Free Jack!

DarkJedi 03-27-2005 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Clicky_Bucks
Actually, that wasn't your point. Do some more backtracking. I've never seen someone own themselves so completely.

yeah ? how's that tard ?

jonesy 03-27-2005 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Loryn-Adult.com
The mother was at then end of her life and was on life support, Terri is young and is not on life support. BIG DIFFERENCE!!! :winkwink:

what the fuck do you call a feeding tube?

aico 03-27-2005 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Clicky_Bucks
Actually, that wasn't your point. Do some more backtracking. I've never seen someone own themselves so completely.

Watch out, he might call you a name...

DarkJedi 03-27-2005 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
So, then if that is true, wouldn't the person who removed the feeding tube, therefore causing her death, be commiting a felony? Or did a Rogue Robot remove it?

Her husband has a legal right to make a choice for her to remove the tube of keep it. Such is the law.

And by removing the tube, he is not comming a felony because he is making a decision for Terri - he is her legal guardian. He makes a decision for her to stop eating. It's not a crime.

aico 03-27-2005 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
Her husband has a legal right to make a choice for her to remove the tube of keep it. Such is the law.

And by removing the tube, he is not comming a felony because he is making a decision for Terri - he is her legal guardian. He makes a decision for her to stop eating. It's not a crime.

Ok, so why can't he just shoot her in the arm with some lethal injection?

DarkJedi 03-27-2005 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
Ok, so why can't he just shoot her in the arm with some lethal injection?

Too stupid for words. How do you breathe on your own?

12clicks 03-27-2005 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
Holy shit these people are scum

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/...077219,00.html

Bottom paragraph:

lets praise this business. where elsae can an idiot like this go out and make a few bucks?

aico 03-27-2005 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
Too stupid for words. How do you breathe on your own?

Another brilliant answer from a brillian man.

If you can't answer the question, just say so... It's more impressive to admit you don't know than it is to reply with some asenine answer.

I know you get frustrated by your own ignorance, but it's ok man, just take some deep breaths, use some more big words (usually mispelled) and you'll be fine.

DarkJedi 03-27-2005 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
..usually mispelled...


Bwahahahaha :1orglaugh

Just stfu already, assclown.

aico 03-27-2005 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
Bwahahahaha :1orglaugh

Just stfu already, assclown.

OH MY GOD!!! wow you just went up a notch on my scale, you actually got the joke... wow I am impressed...

DarkJedi 03-27-2005 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
OH MY GOD!!! wow you just went up a notch on my scale, you actually got the joke... wow I am impressed...

http://sexy-celebs.net/hotlink/backpedal.gif

YOU = OWNED.

aico 03-27-2005 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

Please, you don't own shit

"Irony is wasted on the stupid" seems to hold true here.

baddog 03-27-2005 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
Ok, so why can't he just shoot her in the arm with some lethal injection?

It begins with an E and end with an A

baddog 03-27-2005 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
(usually mispelled)

I was going to let all your other spelling errors pass (and you have a bunch of them, but this one is priceless

Rich 03-27-2005 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Loryn-Adult.com
Life support deals with the respiratory system and heart compressions. You have basic life support, meaning you give someone mouth to mouth and pump their heart to keep the blood circulating, you have advance life support where you have a machine pump the heart and push air into the lungs. Terri is not on life support. She is disabled.

You're a sick, sick person Loryn. Honestly, you have to be fucking kidding.

tony286 03-27-2005 05:45 PM

I cant believe these right wing idiots on here that support busy body government .

uno 03-27-2005 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404
I cant believe these right wing idiots on here that support busy body government .

It's funny isn't it?

aico 03-27-2005 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
I was going to let all your other spelling errors pass (and you have a bunch of them, but this one is priceless

It's awesome that neither of you see the humor in mispelling the word mispelling...

:::HINT - There is Irony in this post... (twice)...

Greg B 03-27-2005 06:12 PM

What bothers me most about the Schiavo case is how bitter people have become toward one another over it.

The Press has bandied this story about worse than the OJ Simpson case and friends and family and coworkers fighting with one another. There are even bookies taking out bets on the poor woman.

Would serve everybody right if after a few days Terri Schiavo ups out of the bed, carjacks an SUV and makes it to a McDonald's and goes postal on a Happy Meal.

CorporalChaos 03-27-2005 06:28 PM

god damn... alot of you make it sound like she just cant feed herself....and she could learn to feed herself.

This chick cant even chew much less swallow, her brain is too fucked to even do what comes naturaly to even an infant, thats why she needs to be fed through a tube.

Being kept alive through artificial means (feeding tube), is considered "life support".

Fucking morons

aico 03-27-2005 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg B
What bothers me most about the Schiavo case is how bitter people have become toward one another over it.

The Press has bandied this story about worse than the OJ Simpson case and friends and family and coworkers fighting with one another. There are even bookies taking out bets on the poor woman.

Would serve everybody right if after a few days Terri Schiavo ups out of the bed, carjacks an SUV and makes it to a McDonald's and goes postal on a Happy Meal.

The Gov't (and Fox News) loves anything that takes the focus off the war in Iraq

gideongallery 03-27-2005 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
Oh she can ? Why is she dying then ?

Don't be stupuid.

and you are being deliberately stupuid

there is a huge difference between dying instantly because a machine which is doing all your breathing for you is turned off

and dying slowly of starvations, in agony.

Alex 03-27-2005 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
So, then if that is true, wouldn't the person who removed the feeding tube, therefore causing her death, be commiting a felony? Or did a Rogue Robot remove it?

Not quite.

Although technically they are letting her die. They arent killing her directly.

gideongallery 03-27-2005 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
No. The infants grow and gain brain functions like logical thinking etc.

Terri does not have a brain - it's liquified. She isn't even in coma. She can not recover. People can't grow a new brain.

first of all if her brain was liquified automatic body functions like breathing would stop.

The cognitive sections of her brain have been damaged.

However we use less than 7% of our brain. And people have been known to miraculiously come out of comas because the brain redirects itself thru these unused sections.

Larry king just had an interview with a lady who this happened too.

Greg B 03-27-2005 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery
first of all if her brain was liquified automatic body functions like breathing would stop.

The cognitive sections of her brain have been damaged.

However we use less than 7% of our brain. And people have been known to miraculiously come out of comas because the brain redirects itself thru these unused sections.

Larry king just had an interview with a lady who this happened too.

http://www.tblog.com/templates/index...&static=416736

Is your brain really necessary?
Friday 03.11.05 [9:56 pm]




Do you really have to have a brain? The reason for my apparently absurd question is the remarkable research conducted at the University of Sheffield by neurology professor the late Dr. John Lorber.

When Sheffield?s campus doctor was treating one of the mathematics students for a minor ailment, he noticed that the student?s head was a little larger than normal. The doctor referred the student to professor Lorber for further examination.

The student in question was academically bright, had a reported IQ of 126 and was expected to graduate. When he was examined by CAT-scan, however, Lorber discovered that he had virtually no brain at all.

Instead of two hemispheres filling the cranial cavity, some 4.5 centimetres deep, the student had less than 1 millimetre of cerebral tissue covering the top of his spinal column. The student was suffering from hydrocephalus, the condition in which the cerebrospinal fluid, instead of circulating around the brain and entering the bloodstream, becomes dammed up inside.

Normally, the condition is fatal in the first months of childhood. Even where an individual survives he or she is usually seriously handicapped. Somehow, though, the Sheffield student had lived a perfectly normal life and went on to gain an honours degree in mathematics. This case is by no means as rare as it seems. In 1970, a New Yorker died at the age of 35. He had left school with no academic achievements, but had worked at manual jobs such as building janitor, and was a popular figure in his neighbourhood. Tenants of the building where he worked described him as passing the days performing his routine chores, such as tending the boiler, and reading the tabloid newspapers. When an autopsy was performed to determine the cause of his premature death he, too, was found to have practically no brain at all. Professor Lorber has identified several hundred people who have very small cerebral hemispheres but who appear to be normal intelligent individuals. Some of them he describes as having ?no detectable brain?, yet they have scored up to 120 on IQ tests.

No-one knows how people with ?no detectable brain? are able to function at all, let alone to graduate in mathematics, but there are a couple theories. One idea is that there is such a high level of redundancy of function in the normal brain that what little remains is able to learn to deputise for the missing hemispheres.

Another, similar, suggestion is the old idea that we only use a small percentage of our brains anyway?perhaps as little as 10 per cent. The trouble with these ideas is that more recent research seems to contradict them. The functions of the brain have been mapped comprehensively and although there is some redundancy there is also a high degree of specialisation?the motor area and the visual cortex being highly specific for instance. Similarly, the idea that we ?only use 10 per cent of our brain? is a misunderstanding dating from research in the 1930s in which the functions of large areas of the cortex could not be determined and were dubbed ?silent?, when in fact they are linked with important functions like speech and abstract thinking.

The other interesting thing about Lorber?s findings is that they remind us of the mystery of memory. At first it was thought that memory would have some physical substrate in the brain, like the memory chips in a PC. But extensive investigation of the brain has turned up the surprising fact that memory is not located in any one area or in a specific substrate. As one eminent neurologist put it, ?memory is everywhere in the brain and nowhere.? But if the brain is not a mechanism for classifying and storing experiences and analysing them to enable us to live our lives then what on earth is the brain for? And where is the seat of human intelligence? Where is the mind?

One of the few biologists to propose a radically novel approach to these questions is Dr Rupert Sheldrake. In his book A New Science of Life Sheldrake rejected the idea that the brain is a warehouse for memories and suggested it is more like a radio receiver for tuning into the past. Memory is not a recording process in which a medium is altered to store records, but a journey that the mind makes into the past via the process of morphic resonance. Such a 'radio' receiver would require far fewer and less complex structures than a warehouse capable of storing and retrieving a lifetime of data.

But, of course, such a crazy idea couldn?t possibly be true, could it?

baddog 03-27-2005 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by aico
It's awesome that neither of you see the humor in mispelling the word mispelling...

:::HINT - There is Irony in this post... (twice)...


and your other errors? irony as well?

baddog 03-27-2005 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery
and you are being deliberately stupuid

there is a huge difference between dying instantly because a machine which is doing all your breathing for you is turned off

and dying slowly of starvations, in agony.

she isn't in agony

gideongallery 03-28-2005 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog
she isn't in agony

unfortunately the only person who knows that for sure is terri

Drake 03-28-2005 01:26 AM

What person who starts out their life 'normal' and winds up in a vegatative state would want to remain alive that way?

Let her die, it's what she most likely and reasonably would have wanted.

Drake 03-28-2005 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery
unfortunately the only person who knows that for sure is terri

Would most people who used to be able to walk and talk then end up being a prison in their own body not be living in agony?

Unfortunately we can't ask her how she feels but we can use our reason to come to the conclusion.

baddog 03-28-2005 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery
unfortunately the only person who knows that for sure is terri

Wrong. . . . remember all those tests they do on animals that you activists think is so wrong? Well, this is one of the things that they can determine with certainty.

aico 03-28-2005 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog
and your other errors? irony as well?

nope, those were straight up spelling errors, I type fast, but mispelled and brillian were deliberate mistakes...

Like I am gonna seriously not check my spelling when calling someone out on their's... That's like saying how stupid a person is for calling you names and then calling them names in the next sentence... oh wait...

gideongallery 03-28-2005 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog
Wrong. . . . remember all those tests they do on animals that you activists think is so wrong? Well, this is one of the things that they can determine with certainty.


ok prove it


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