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RawAlex 03-24-2005 05:37 PM

How hard is "if the surfer comes from a mailout, we will close your account"?

This also shuts down those "second hand" mailers... hiring someone else to spam and redirect to your TGP / sites / blog / whatever won't work either.

How much fun is this?

Alex

$5 submissions 03-24-2005 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irrum
I think all affiliate programs sooner or later will be headed in that direction.

If that happens, what will be the impact on programs' payout levels?

SmokeyTheBear 03-24-2005 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave
Yes we advertise our program on GFY.

And we can go through a million senarios here, but...

If you send an email to someone, and the destination page (could be after numerous re-directs and jump pages) has an ad or link for an adult related PimpRoll product, your account will be closed.


Again im not trying to bash you , just curious, its a pretty big step.

It just seems a bit strange that you would allow YOUR program to be displayed on sites that email but you wont allow the exact same thing to your affiliates.

So you promote your program thru email ( directly or indrectly ) , but dont allow other to promote your sites the same exact way .

Trust me nobody hates spam emails more than me , and its a programs choice how they want to be promoted, and you should be applauded for taking some steps at least , i just wonder if you have gone overkill.

PR_Dave 03-24-2005 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex
This also shuts down those "second hand" mailers... hiring someone else to spam and redirect to your TGP / sites / blog / whatever won't work either.

Do you mean as an attack against the TGP / sites / blog owner?

PR_Dave 03-24-2005 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions
If that happens, what will be the impact on programs' payout levels?

Payouts go up? As mailer traffic retains like ASS :pimp

Hypothetical.

SmokeyTheBear 03-24-2005 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave
Do you mean as an attack against the TGP / sites / blog owner?

no i think he just means people that spam mail and use their own tgp as a banner advertiser , then filter the spam thru a few sites first.

PR_Dave 03-24-2005 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
no i think he just means people that spam mail and use their own tgp as a banner advertiser , then filter the spam thru a few sites first.

Spam generates complaints.

You can try to disguise your promotion a million ways.

If we get a complaint and it's valid, you know the rest.

PR_Dave 03-24-2005 05:50 PM

Just so I don't come off as sounding harsh.

You will be notified if your account has been flagged.

You will be given the chance to tell your side of the story.

:pimp

SmokeyTheBear 03-24-2005 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave
Spam generates complaints.

You can try to disguise your promotion a million ways.

If we get a complaint and it's valid, you know the rest.

I think your missing my point , i'm not planning on spamming anything , i dont mail period.

Owning a forum isnt "spamming" its owning a forum . If you have a newsletter informing users of new items its not "spamming" its the same thing gfy does. If i click a thread posted in a gfy newsletter , i will likely at some point find your banner at the top of my page.

Infact in my example above i posted an even toned down version of what gfy does.

The banners wouldnt even be displayed..

I just thought it was sort of strange that you would choose to promote your own program in a way that you wouldnt allow your advertisers to.

PR_Dave 03-24-2005 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

I just thought it was sort of strange that you would choose to promote your own program in a way that you wouldnt allow your advertisers to.

I am not missing your point and I know exactly what you are saying.

It's simply a business decision.

If you like it or don't like it, that's fine.

woj 03-24-2005 06:00 PM

50...........

bigdog 03-24-2005 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave
Smokey if you mail your subscribers about updates to your sites and the destination pages on your site have PimpRoll ads. Your account will be closed.

Also if you promote PimpRoll from behind password protected areas without our approval, your account will be closed.

:pimp

why the need for approval to send members area traffic to pimproll?

xclusive 03-24-2005 06:06 PM

Anybody that is US based needs to watch your ass and PimpRoll is just making a smart business decision.

andrej_NDC 03-24-2005 06:07 PM

this is great for affiliate competitors...they just mail your sites to a shitty email list with a competitor ID and...one out of the way. :)

SmokeyTheBear 03-24-2005 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave
I am not missing your point and I know exactly what you are saying.

It's simply a business decision.

If you like it or don't like it, that's fine.


Ok i wasn't sure .

INever 03-24-2005 06:09 PM

Wtf?
 
just got the latest PIMPROLL email, uhhh, i mean, SPAM

Date:

24 Mar 2005 21:15:45 -0000

To:
[email protected]

From:
[email protected]ahaAdd to Address Book

Subject:
PimpRoll adds 595 Free Hosted Movie Galleries with Text Descriptions!

uhhh??? :1orglaugh

SmokeyTheBear 03-24-2005 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog
why the need for approval to send members area traffic to pimproll?


From my understanding you couldnt use banners inside a members area , as members of ANY site are emailed newsletter about the site , this would go against the no-email policy i would think.

DaLord 03-24-2005 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave
Mail promotion was such a tiny % of our BIZ.

As most already know we've been phasing it out over the last year.

I am sure there are plenty of other sponsors that will gobble it all up and good luck to them

PimpRoll is not interested in this type of marketing.


:pimp

Excellent. You'll get my traffic then :)

PR_Dave 03-24-2005 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog
why the need for approval to send members area traffic to pimproll?

Because anything could be going on in that password protected area.

Simply contact us and issue us a user pass for the area.

PR_Dave 03-24-2005 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
this is great for affiliate competitors...they just mail your sites to a shitty email list with a competitor ID and...one out of the way. :)


Good luck to you.

bigdog 03-24-2005 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave
Because anything could be going on in that password protected area.

Simply contact us and issue us a user pass for the area.

Ok that makes sense. I thought maybe members area traffic wasn't rebilling well for you or something

PR_Dave 03-24-2005 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog
Ok that makes sense. I thought maybe members area traffic wasn't rebilling well for you or something

Not the case, www.downloadpass.com/index.html makes an excellent upsell :)

Pipecrew 03-24-2005 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INever
EMAIL PROMOTION IS NOT TOLERATED

Sending traffic from email will result in immediate termination and all monies forfeited.
PimpRoll accepts no email promotion OF ANY KIND WHATSOEVER.
Any traffic from email will result in immediate account cancellation and forfeiture of all monies.

I logged in to see about selling their new solo girl site and was greeted with this announcement.

http://www.nastydollars.com/spampolicy.htm?wm_refer=

"Nastydollars accepts no email promotion OF ANY KIND WHATSOEVER.
Any traffic from email will result in immediate account cancellation and forfeiture of all monies. "

Nice Work, I suppose writing a couple original sentences is difficult.

Aric 03-24-2005 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
this is great for affiliate competitors...they just mail your sites to a shitty email list with a competitor ID and...one out of the way. :)

Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've read all day, and that's saying alot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by INever
just got the latest PIMPROLL email, uhhh, i mean, SPAM

Date:

24 Mar 2005 21:15:45 -0000

To:
[email protected]

From:
[email protected]haAdd to Address Book

Subject:
PimpRoll adds 595 Free Hosted Movie Galleries with Text Descriptions!

uhhh???

We're not selling you anything, rather informing you so you can make more $$.
http://stats.pimproll.com/apps/cancel.php

M.D.P. 03-24-2005 06:35 PM

I will add to the other thumbs ups. Good work Pimps.

Oh, just a thought.

If I had a forum that emails my membe...oh wait, I have better things to do. :pimp

andrej_NDC 03-24-2005 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave
Good luck to you.

dont be an ass, Im not doing this

Aric 03-24-2005 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
dont be an ass, Im not doing this

Where to begin... you post something extremely stupid that is beneath even the worst cheating WM and then claim someone else is an ass for wishing you luck with your dumbass scheme? :1orglaugh

And you represent an affiliate program? Good god.

Chalk one up for NDC.

andrej_NDC 03-24-2005 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aric
Where to begin... you post something extremely stupid that is beneath even the worst cheating WM and then claim someone else is an ass for wishing you luck with your dumbass scheme? :1orglaugh

And you represent an affiliate program? Good god.

Chalk one up for NDC.


I was talking about an option, everyone who knows me, know what I think about scam, Im sorry, if you didnt get it...

Aric 03-24-2005 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
I was talking about an option, everyone who knows me, know what I think about scam, Im sorry, if you didnt get it...

It's the dumbest option ever. I got it alright -- And you "came up with it".

andrej_NDC 03-24-2005 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aric
It's the dumbest option ever. I got it alright -- And you "came up with it".

no, it isnt, I was scamed several times with methods I never dreamed about...

fünkmaster 03-24-2005 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharky
Everyone is getting letters from the FTC now. They are on a witch hunt and someone, some sponsor, is naming names.

... that sponsor's name wouldn't happen to start with a capital "C" by any chance ??

Aric 03-24-2005 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
no, it isnt, I was scamed several times with methods I never dreamed about...

Dress it up anyway you please. You underestimate PimpRoll. You can dress up a tranny all you want, it's still a tranny.

PimpRoll has a reputation when it comes to webmaster support. While Dave's announcement was direct and to the point, we always listen to our webmasters and resolve any conflicts of information. We'll always listen to a webmasters side of the story and take it from there.

You made a dumb post, now admit it.

andrej_NDC 03-24-2005 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aric
Dress it up anyway you please. You underestimate PimpRoll. You can dress up a tranny all you want, it's still a tranny.

PimpRoll has a reputation when it comes to webmaster support. While Dave's announcement was direct and to the point, we always listen to our webmasters and resolve any conflicts of information. We'll always listen to a webmasters side of the story and take it from there.

You made a dumb post, now admit it.

You underestimate me, think whatever you want, its your life.

PR_Dave 03-24-2005 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
You underestimate me, think whatever you want, its your life.

I think some people will actually try what you posted.

But I know it is not your intention.

nico-t 03-24-2005 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2pac
guess you have to call everyone instead

lol... i hope they remember the url with my ref code in it :1orglaugh

PR_Dave 03-24-2005 07:11 PM

Might as well post this here:


$50 Per Signup next Wednesday on all AVP sites!


You can view all AVP sites here:
http://www.adultvideoplanet.com/part...x_ref=1aa13da2


:pimp

V_RocKs 04-20-2005 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tytan
see my nice sig hehe

Why is this dude allowed to offer lists he hacked webmasters in this forum to get?

thaifan99 04-20-2005 05:30 PM

I love emails from Pimproll.............normally means more $$!

ronbotx 04-20-2005 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs
Why is this dude allowed to offer lists he hacked webmasters in this forum to get?

because GFY is a SPAM support board.......????
All manner of spammers and SPAM support services are welcomed here.

pstation 04-20-2005 07:15 PM

Cool... hope more sponsors follow :)


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