Gotta love it.

Actually if you were to get Helmy's version, I wasn't fired. I quit.


By the way, when you are using the word "to" as an adverb, as in "to stupid to be there, it needs to be spelled as, "too stupid to be there. And too stupid to be here."

Just so you know Alien Q.

Make it a great day! :upsidedow

Let me tell you about the Steve that I know.

There once were some young girls who wanted to be somebody. So he made them into somebody. Not like a pimp would at a bus station in L.A... No, Steve took them under his wing and did some softcore sites with them. Made them big stars.

One of those stars decided to leave that place under his wing. She faught with him like a child does with a parent when they are trying to become independent. Steve understood this and didn't jump into fits of irrational behavior. He was the adult here. He kept his composure and confided in some people he thought of as friends as well as his adult family.

In the end the star realized her misdeeds and apologized. Steve took her back and created an atmosphere where all parties involved would be comfortable with the situation.

That is the Steve Lightspeed that I know.

Sorry, I think it's kind of funny

The problem with being purely democractic in voting is that you end up with a big popularity contest, where it is more about ego and getting members to vote for someone, rather than for having people who can truly provide guidance and additional opinions and observations while serving on the advisory board.

Votes can be bought, as people with their own agendas could purchase membership for people in order to get their way.... so having the most money or political power could still dictate the outcome as you suggested.

The current board seems to be well balanced with people from diverse backgrounds:

* Michelle Freridge, Free Speech Coalition
* Alec Helmy, XBiz.com
* Tom Hymes, AVN Online
* Chris Jester, SplitInfinity
* Holly Moss, Moss Consulting
* Larry Paciotti, CCLR Internet
* Scott Rabinowitz, TrafficDude
* Morgan Sommer, Cybersocket
* Jeff Southworth, Epoch Transaction Services


Fight the Ballot Box!

Ror a second there, i thought that Ward Churchill was posting on GFY.


Fight the little Eichmanns!

It appears that someone used an email harvesting program and probably pointed it to websites that teenages and family members would post on that has nothing to do with adult.

The harvested email list was then fed into a spamming program with forged headers, that probably used SMTP proxies, making tracing almost impossible.


Fight the You've Got Mail!

At least there is one other American that knows what Freedom of Speech is. :1orglaugh

On that list of board members there are only 3 I have any respect for. I almost bit my tongue attacking this press release, however we can see where the piss crosses.

Don't send stupid people to send message and turn it into a thing of self promotion while targeting one of the ASACP's victims in response.


STOP THE CLUELESS DRONES!

I also curious about the portion ofthe statement that say's children got this message. Why are children on the ASACP mailing list?

You are wrong, and forgiven. The "people" that you are referring to that are "freaking out" are some teenagers and adults who were very surprised and confused at receiving the notice.

There are plenty of phishing scams that go on, and receiving an email letter that has a professionally created website, would certainly cause anyone that received such a notice to be concerned.

Your analogy of a prank doesn't hold up due to the fact that this "prank" broke several laws and when caught, would be faced with several felony charges.

Pretending to be the principal and pulling a "prank" doesn't get you thrown in jail as will the actions by the persons who did this "prank".


Fight the Freaking Out!

There was no "ASACP email list" that was used. Someone took the time to run an email harvester to grab a list of emails, targetting non-porn websites in order to send out the message.


Fight the Cat!

I see.
Well fight the good fight.

Peace Out.

i agree, what was their motive for doing this? nothing financial, the results are that you scared the shit out of a bunch of people, not like fraud or a DDOS attack which may cost a company money and/or the perpetrators would get something out of it, ransom, fraud proceeds, etc

just sounds like somebody got angry at asacp

where did they get the emails from? ASACP? (asking with all due respect, trying to make the connection on how children were affected)

You could make the same argument about slander and libel, but according to our laws, such actions can get you sued or put in jail. There doesn't have to be a financial loss in order to commit a felony.

Clearly, this attack was to discredit, embarrass, cause harm, etc to ASACP.org from someone who has a personal agenda and an axe to grind.



Fight the Message and the Messenger!

that sucks :(

Wow, hey Dick Tracy, before someone points a finger at me, I do have the means and motivation, but lack the mean-spiritness that this prank would have taken. However, this does kinda remind me of my last run in with ASACP, when someone mysteriously hacked and deleted my entire Lightspeed4 database for "giggles".

Mean people suck and karma can be a bitch.

Steve Lightspeed

You know, Mark, this kind of reminds me of some of the comments that were thrown around after 9/11

Yeah . . . well

I guess I missed something here . . .who said this was ASACP's mailing list?

The more I read, the more confused I get . . . who was pointing fingers at anyone?

I am going back to work

What a sick thing for people to do.

an interesting tidbit of news that has relevance to the harm that this "prank" can cause:

mark kernes of avn.com attended the senate judiciary subcommittee last week that was focusing on the adult entertainment industry (which no one from the adult biz was allowed to testify), and he recorded the folllowing (this isn't an official quote, but what he transcribed):

"The expanded reach and pervasiveness of pornography also affects our families and our children. According to recent reports, one in five children ages 10 to 17 has received a sexual solicitation over the Internet, and nine out of 10 children ages 8 to 16 who have Internet access have viewed porn Websites usually in the course of looking up information for homework."

While this "bad email" is truly a wrong (and illegal) thing, there might be some good to come out of it in light of how congress is looking at the adult industry.

Given ASACP's mission, combined with Best Practices guidelines and efforts to assist law enforcement in reporting the CP websites, it can certainly do a greater good for the adult online industry by its existance.


Fight the Doom and Gloom!

Couldn't have happened to a nicer organization.

I assumed if they used the server for a spoof that they implemented ASACP's mailing list in the process. Guess it does not work that way, goes to show ya what I know about this kinda thing. :1orglaugh