There was talk between MTV and Showtime doing this...Was suppose to be out by now? Not sure what happened with it...

Jon

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

yeah you see a lot more of it, but its not out of control. it's good. it promotes acceptance i feel.
are you threatened by it? :)

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Again the cliche "if you don't like gays you are gay" response. I don't like fatties like you but I'm not a fatty.
:1orglaugh

not too surprising when an avg. of 10% of the world is gay huh?

Do you know that because you got assfucked by 10% of the world, or is this just another made up statistic with no basis in fact?

I know the whole angry-gay-basher = closet-homo formula has gotten hackneyed from overuse in movies, and was never really a truism.

I wasn't actually offering DarkJedi earnest psychoanalysis -- :) -- just wanting to get a little more info about his motivations in starting this thread.

I was struck by his tone, however -- it sounded, you know, kinda intolerant.

I don't think anybody tried to stick a dick up his ass, either...


It sounds like he was just watching TV, and sorta got fed up with the number of gay characters he saw in shows, the number of gay plotlines, etc.

The increase in the incidence rate of the (let's call it) Gay Motif on TV is VERY different from having some guy at a bar grab your balls.

I think a lot of people posting in this thread are reacting as if DarkJedi had actually been violated, transgressed upon or in any way personally offended by a gay person.

He was watching TV, and he didn't like what he saw.

Now is the moment to point out the extraordinary hypocrisy of this reaction on an ADULT WEBMASTER BOARD -- where, presumably, First Amendment championing and progressive attitudes towards sex and sexuality are the rule.

Sorry, DarkJedi, but you can't have it both ways.

You can't lobby (by implication of your presence here on GFY and acknowledgement of the issues our industry faces) for a more rational governmental and cultural posture towards adult entertainment AND demonize the healthy sexual conduct of 20% of the earth's population.

For a long time, racial minorities were woefully under- and mis-represented on TV.

If you were a visitor to Earth from another planet, say, and you turned on a TV in the 70s, you might have formed a very different picture from reality -- one where all Asians operate laundromats, all Hispanics have INS worries, and all African Americans live in a Shaft-ian ghetto of pimps, prostitutes and addiction.

You have to be, we ALL have to be, very careful when we say "I've had enough of THOSE people."

Homosexuality is NOT a crime or loathsome act...


...and any religiously-supported moral objections to gay people had better re-calibrate against the mounting evidence that homosexuality is not inculcated or learned or the result of having been raised by a single-mom, or any other such nonsense -- but a PREDISPOSITION OF BIRTH.

In other words, God made gay people that way -- and, insofar as our cultural bias against them is entirely arbitrary, unsupported by the moral barometer: "Does it HARM?", why don't we just accept that they're here, too?



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you need to learn your facts sweety, i've been fucked by 38% of people in the world... ill dig up the 10% homosexual fact for you right now.. standby

ok, the 10% number was from a study in 1948.... it turns out the recent study is from 1.7%-6%


if you have 100 friends, at least 2 of them is gay, regardless of what you think... and at least 6 of them has had a gay encounter...

so does that mean we can assume you've had at least 4000 encounters based on the gayness detected in your posts?

"Homosexuality touches all of our lives. If 6 percent of the population is gay, 13 percent of families, one in seven, will experience homosexuality in a child and many more will experience it within the extended family comprised of immediate family members, grandparents, aunts, uncles, and first cousins. Whether we know it or not, all of us have a friend or family relation who is homosexual."

I'm a liberal in the sense that I think faggots should be free to have their relationships, and have their homo sex in their own homes.

But I'm also a heterosexual male, and fact is, faggotry will sicken 99% of heterosexual males like myself.

It's like if someone wants to play with their own feces. It should definitely be legal. But 99% of society should also be honest about finding the scat behavior to be disgusting.

pretty much sums it up to me :)

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Jon

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Jon

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Jon

Okay

Jon

Again another fag says I am gay because I DON'T like cocks in my ass? What the fuck is with this shit? :mad:

all new trends get their 10 secs of fame...right now its cool to listen to black music while wearing pink and rape people in the ass.. eventually the balance will settle itself...however im not sure i want my kid to turn on the tv to faggots going down on each other...as for lesbians, im just fine with it!
go figure

oh and by the way...i predictr the disappearance of gay people for 2100... they CANT reproduce!!!
haha

no, i say you're gay because of the way you write, the things you say... i'm almost positive you are one of those 30 something percent of people who've had gay encounters in their lives, doesnt make you gay.... just means youve done GAY things in your life, so dont jump all over people who liked it more than you lol

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They still say I love you
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Hearts full of passion, jealousy and hate
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Obviously the only thing gay people can say is that everyone who doesn't like them is also secretly gay. Try to find a new argument shit packer. Are you one of those 'special' homos with the new kind of aids? You are special! :thumbsup

Oh..you poor baby! Are those mean old homosexuals starting to scare you? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

It's obvious you are very bored and decided to bring up one of those sure self sustaining threads about "Fags are everywhere"..which will bring out the haters of course and yada yada yada.

Jesus..you are boring and lacking substance.
Try something innovative for once.

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For someone who is soooo upset by the use of the ass for sex..you certainly are TALKING OUT OF YOUR ASS with idiot statements like above! :321GFY

maybe you should get some help... constantly pointing fingers isn't what people who feel good about themself do. (also see the thread about the fat guy)

For me it's not homos in particular. Homosexuality makes my stomach squirm when it's, um, thrust in my face, but I could stand faggots as long as they don't **act** queer. It's the flaming, I've-got-to-talk-funny-so-the-whole-fucking-world-knows-I-suck-dick, faggot that pisses me off.

I just saw a gay couple on In a Fix the other night - one big huge guy - looks like a "real" man and a smaller guy. Acted perfectly normal. No fake accent, no flashy or girlie clothes, no effeminate traits - they just happened to like guys over girls. Which just goes to show how fucking unnecessary it is to "act" gay.

I hate queers the same way I hate celebrities or anybody else that acts fake and stupid. Like rappers. And gangsters. And board whores.

I hate people who pretend to be ADULT webmasters who then can talk about what is "normal" and what is not.

Don't act so straight in public then by farting, belching, letting your big belly hang below your belt, and eating your big mac in public!

btw..if you hate people that are FAKE, then HOW can you hate someone who IS gay and ACT the way THEY ARE? Tad contradictory on your part.

Read the thread and get a new argument moron.


Yeah, it's so lacking and boring that you couldn't help yourself but post in here.

I hope that some day you'll come to terms with the fact that you are nothing more than a virus spreading parasite.

you my friend are obviously gay
the whole world is straight, and not everyone eats big macs while farting..
besides, you fart CUM :1orglaugh

do you see me walk around with a fucking t shirt that says im an heterosexual? burn your fucking fag flags and bumper stickers and try not to draw too much attention on the fact that you are gay, and may be people wont laugh at you :)

Your posting is like that of a 12 year old. Meandering crap about homosexuals that rednecks like you have posted over & over before because their life is so fucking empty apparently they have nothing better to do.

But wait..tomorrow is Monday and you can go to school and meet with your buddies in the hall and tell fag jokes all day and laugh your ass off because you're just "so cool" obviously with your incredible insight about "faggotry".

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There is nothing better that watching a bunch of adult webmasters debate it :thumbsup

Thank you for proving my point!

It IS idiots like yourself that post these empty messages FULL of generalizations like I did in posting about straight people which you fell for and came right back & posted even MORE generalizations about gays.

That's ALL you & your cronies are..a bunch of wind bags who know how to post generalizations because you saw them posted before on message boards. Wow..that takes a LOT of intelligence!

You're not too bright, are you?

I am an adult webmaster. Have been since 1999. Not a bad run.

I don't fart or belch in public. I have a flat stomach and I don't eat Big Macs (often and usually in the privacy of my own home).

The point of my post is that acting like a flamer is NOT part of being a homosexual male. You are a reactionary idiot. Read before you post. I illustrated my point by talking about a normal gay couple - neither of which felt it necessary to act effeminate, dress oddly or make themselves stand out in any way. All of those things are affectations, not part of being gay.

Here is it again..**YOU** are Judge Jury & Executioner!
**YOU** will judge what is a "normal" gay couple as opposed to what is not! How the hell do you know what a person is, acts like, or wants unless you are HIM! You cannot sit there and continue to make these STUPID generalizations because you don't know what truly makes other people "tick" unless you indeed do "walk in their shoes!" (or in this case I guess high heels!).

"those things are affectations, not part of being gay."
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh You keep proving my point..how the fuck do you know that to be true unless *YOU* are gay??

You're really dumb and don't know it. Sad.

There's a reason Bush got voted back into the whitehouse..and it's because of liberals...and yes I am a liberal...pushing views that are distorted on the rest of America.
Let me explain for those who don't quite get it.
It's like GFY here. We have a group of people who laugh at things like Tub Girl etc and think that it's appropriate material to share with friends for a laugh..or to post on a thread to elicit some kind of response...while the rest of America...the majority would see that pic and think that every thought or misconception that they had about those in the adult industry would be confirmed.
So you take this approach and you have a bunch of liberals out of Cali, and New York where alternative lifestyles are a bit more accepted pushing their agendas and yes I call it an agenda..in whatever form of media it takes...and it's backfiring.
Call me a homophobe etc..I don't fucking care what childish attempts you take to negate my point without addressing it...and that is a large portion of America just doesn't want to see homosexuals in their neighborhoods let alone their living rooms.
We're seeing the backlash folks of pushing boundaries....conservatism is growing, and I don't expect it to slow down until something drastic happens that is just so outright discriminatory that even the staunchest conservative can't back it.
But for now watch as complaints continue to grow over nipple slips etc on t.v. during family hours.

Wow..what a zinger comeback!
But of course you have nothing to say other than "you're real dumb" because you CAN'T answer the question that has been asked:

How the fuck do you know that to be true unless *YOU* are gay??

Straight guys telling gay guys how they are SUPPOSED to act. Fucking hilarious!

Sounds faintly familiar back in the 60's & 70's when "Jim Crow" and friends were saying the very same thing about blacks.

My answer..TOO DAMN BAD! Get used to it.

It doesn't bother me at all. I'm very tolerant of others and no, I'm not gay :winkwink:

I don't care how people act as long as they act APPROPRIATELY.
My sister is gay. But yet she doesn't walk around basing her whole entire life around her sexuality.
If that is all that a person has whether he be gay, straight, or asexual then I find that sad.
You won't find me running down the street in flannel shirts and jeans chanting..."I'm straight don't hate, we dominate!"
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