I have a walther P99 .9MM

Nuclear weapons dont kill people, people do

http://nuclear-weapon.wikiverse.org/..._aftermath.jpg
The aftermath of the Hiroshima bombing

Sadly Peaches - it ain't gonna happen.

There are too many folks with a vested interest - and money - and this is already messed up with politics and "contaminated".

It would take their families to die before it hit em in the face.

Sure.. there are nothing "wrong" with guns as such - it's people that are the problem :-) And... sure ain't easy to have get a resolution and suspect this would take generations to implement.

Criminals owning... This is probably the main reason/excuse as to why others feel the need to have guns. Attacking that rigidly *may* help restore faith and subdue the general public into thinking they need a gun. Tho, a very high proportion of gun-related incidents are not from "real criminals", but kids and others who just went nuts. Something can be done with kids - the nutty element will always be there.

On "real criminals" - they will always access guns where they have a need. It's the same in other countries tho the "accessibility" makes it easier for all. Jailing criminals may be a punishment - but doubt that is enough to deter them - hell knows the solution to that, but maybe "total removal of all assets" for anyone involved in a criminal action with the use of firearms. But... without help to "go straight" - that can have a backlash effect :-)

It is "normal people" that probably have most problems with guns around - from what may start as a simple domestic dispute ends up a disaster area or, some small child finding his Dad's gun ends up blowing his face off or, the teen who has little parental supervision and decides with a friend to hold up the local liquor store out of some stupid bravdo.

That latter incident happened within the last year in one State - an undercover officer happened to be in the "back shop" at the time and saw two masked attackers reach the cashpoint. They shot into the counter area and the girl behind the counter dropped to the floor. The officer thought she had just been killed and shot the hat off one of the robbers and he froze and "hit the dirt" - the other ran out the door. When she removed the mask off this person - it was a 13 year old kid in a state of shock. The girl behind the counter had just fainted - best place for her at that time was unconcious behind the cashpoint. Both of them were caught - the other was 16 years of age - both spent some time in Juvenile Hall and back on the street now. That officer was pleased she did not shoot to kill that kid (she normally goes for the legs, depending on circumstances) - but, he could have caused grief for a few people by his actions. Gun "accessibility" is a big problem - these kids had two guns each :-)

I have what ash calls a "boomstick".

Though on another note Mikhail Kalashnikov (still alive by the way) is litterally the man who is responsible for the most lethal gun in history. Must give respect to that gun, only 8 moving parts, no wonder it is so damn reliable.

I feel sorry for people that need a gun for self defense. A sad way of living.

It is very sad. It's sad that we have to use them for protection alone, but it has always been this way.

Sig P220

If guns kill people than I can blame mispelled words on my pencil. It is never the gun it is the dipshit behind it or that is handling it. The gun just sits there untill a PERSON picks it up, points it, and triggers it.

Guns can be used for alot of fun things, such as target shooting or hunting.

im sure this is off.... but it's an interesting concept:


1. Number of physicians in the US: 700,000.

2. Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year: 120,000.

3. Accidental deaths per physician.... 0.171
(U.S. Dept. of Health & Human Services)

4. Number of gun owners in the US: 80,000,000.

5. Number of accidental gun deaths per year
(all age groups): 1,500.

6. Accidental deaths per gun owner: 0.0000188.

7. Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times
more dangerous than gun owners.

Note: Not everyone has a gun, but everyone has at least one Doctor.

Almost everyone has a car. I wonder what those statics are vs. those who own a gun.

In the US, there are about 40,000 deaths per year in automobile
accidents.

Sounds like its worse to go to the doc -lol.

Did you see the missile launching in the first picture?
Well that missile has multiple warheads. Each warhead can be configured to hit a different target.

So if USA wanted to nuke England, it could launch that missile from Nevada or somewhere in the Indian ocean from a nuclear submarine, the missile will reach Ireland's airspace and split into 8 smaller missiles, one of those missiles will nuke London city, the 2nd one goes to Manchester city 100 miles away North-West, the 3rd Glasgow city, the 4th to some small village, and the rest to either hit the targets again to make sure there are no survivours or send them to France and Germany :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

And these missiles are thermo-nuclear and not A-bombs that were used in Hiroshima and are 100x more destructive.

USA, Russia, UK and France have these missiles, the rest of nuclear countries are not as advanced.

See http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/lgm-118.htm for more info.

IIRC, if that missile hits a city, no living creature will be able to live or go through it for the next 2,000 years and it'll affect Earth's atmosphere.

Guns are for girlies, I use my fists in combat - the oldschool way :thumbsup

Nice how you include only 'accidental gun deaths' and not total gun deaths or injuries.

FACT:In 2002, there were 30,242 gun deaths in the U.S:

* 17,108 suicides (56% of all U.S gun deaths),
* 11,829 homicides (39% of all U.S gun deaths),
* 762 unintentional shootings (3% of all U.S gun deaths),
* and 300 from legal intervention and 243 from undetermined intent (2% of all U.S gun deaths combined).


FACT: A gun in the home increases the risk of homicide of a household member by 3 times and the risk of suicide by 5 times compared to homes where no gun is present.

FACT: Contrary to popular belief, young children do possess the physical strength to fire a gun: 25% of 3-to-4-year-olds, 70% of 5-to-6-year-olds, and 90% of 7-to-8-year-olds can fire most handguns.

FACT: Among 26 industrialized nations, 86% of gun deaths among children under age 15 occurred in the United States.

FACT: Taxpayers pay more than 85% of the medical cost for treatment of firearm-related injuries.

FACT: While handguns account for only one-third of all firearms owned in the United States, they account for more than two-thirds of all firearm-related deaths each year. A gun kept in the home is 22 times more likely to be used in a homicide, suicide or unintentional shooting than to be used in self-defense.

FACT: Every two years more Americans die from firearm injuries than the total number of American soldiers killed during the 8-year Vietnam War. In 1999, the total number of people killed by guns in the United States was 28,874,a 6% decrease from 1998 figures.

i dont need a gun. i have a wife who will nag you to death.

I think we should outlaw nature. I think more people die from natural causes that anything else.

Why are we including suicides as a bad thing? These people wanted to end their life and they did so in a way that probably has the highest rate of success.

Tell that to the tens of thousands of people that have tried suicide using a gun and instead of dying they ended up either in a vegative state or paralyzed leaving their family or taxpayers to care for them the rest of their lives. Not to mention it makes a hell of a mess.

I hate messes.

lol, that's a good one!

I wonder how close we are to inventing laser guns.

Violence Begets Violence
 

This study is dated, but still quite revealing...

1994 World Bank study of statistics supplied by the 36 richest countries in the world.

Of the 88,649 gun deaths reported by all the countries, the United States accounted for 45 percent.

Japan, where very few people own guns, averages 124 gun-related attacks a year, and less than 1 percent end in death. Police often raid the homes of those suspected of having weapons.

The study found that gun-related deaths were five to six times higher in the Americas than in Europe or Australia and New Zealand and 95 times higher than in Asia.

Here are gun-related deaths per 100,000 people in the world's 36 richest countries in 1994:

United States 14.24
Brazil 12.95
Mexico 12.69
Estonia 12.26
Argentina 8.93
Northern Ireland 6.63
Finland 6.46
Switzerland 5.31
France 5.15
Canada 4.31
Norway 3.82
Austria 3.70
Portugal 3.20
Israel 2.91
Belgium 2.90
Australia 2.65
Slovenia 2.60
Italy 2.44
New Zealand 2.38
Denmark 2.09
Sweden 1.92
Kuwait 1.84
Greece 1.29
Germany 1.24
Hungary 1.11
Republic of Ireland 0.97
Spain 0.78
Netherlands 0.70
Scotland 0.54
England and Wales 0.41
Taiwan 0.37
Singapore 0.21
Mauritius 0.19
Hong Kong 0.14
South Korea 0.12
Japan 0.05

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I have a few guns. I want a SPAS really bad though. oh yeah

http://www.amazing1.com/burning-lasers.htm

They sell burning laser guns. So i think we are getting close

then again it is not because of the gun itself... its like anything, you can never pin it down to one...for every experienced gun collectioner theres a fucking junky who fucks it up for the rest.. BUT...if that stupid junky had decided to kill lets say his mother, but had spent all the money he had on freebase, you think it'll stop him from non-surgically remove her vocal chords with his teeth?

as far as suicides that shit is just blatant...who the fuck decides not to kill himself cuz he does not own a gun%?!\%

now chances are that X junky will kill another Y gun-owning junky, or sumtin like that. all those dead people werent fucking saints...they had dope debts, too much mouth, whatever it was, it was enough for someone to decide to end his life...
everybody that works illegally is aware that they practically have no legal recourses, wether its on the good or bad side of the gun, therefore they are aware of the possible outcome. if you cant stand the heat...do i have to say it?

as far as lost bullets, or hollywood-movie typa situations...they DO happen...and thats unfair

since WHEN has life been fair...cars kill people everyday, i dont see you ride yo fuckin bike to work... and if you do, you might just put yourself at risk and get hit by a vehicle and BOOM, be the first case of bicycle suicide ever??

i got an idea, lets forbid EVERYTHING

faggotz

i personally don't have one

hahaha :1orglaugh

I own several guns...pistols...rifles...shotguns. I was given my first gun when I was ten or eleven years old. I don't hunt any longer and I seldom target shoot anymore...but will keep my guns anyhow...thank you very much.

The fact that you have any guns is good enough reason to trash em!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You have expressed your views and if anyone thinks they are stable and balanced............ add a gun to that and ya got "take out time" :1orglaugh

Hell no, we use beaver tails. They sting like a bitch.

http://www.eiu.edu/~biology/posters/...eaver_tail.jpg

dont have or need a gun, a dog that will bark like crazy but not attack anyone is all the burglar protection i need.

I'd like to get an MP5SD

Wasn't the assult rifle ban lifted?

Yes...at the Federal level but some States...if not most States...still have them banned and the States have that right.

Guess you didnt read my "im sure this is off but..."

whatever.... you still have no argument even at 30k if doc's do actually kill 120k people per year.

That's still 4X teh amount..

***NOTE***

I still doubt these statistics.

FACT: 72% of all statistics are totally wrong! :1orglaugh

I wonder if there is a ban in Texas.

Who owns a gun?
Janie's Got A Gun
Water Song - Aerosmith
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Never owned one enver will don't need one. try breaking into my house motherfuckers. I don't need a gun to kill you or to prove I'm a man because I have a small penis and I need a gun to compensate.