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Old 03-19-2005, 05:12 AM   #51
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Old 03-19-2005, 05:29 AM   #52
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She probably has parents that have never disciplined her.

Why on earth a teacher can't control a 5 year old is beyond me. Yell at her to stop, stop her from pushing things over, send her into the hall, or to the principles office.
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Old 03-19-2005, 05:30 AM   #53
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But then again, you lay a hand on a child to stop them from breaking things, these days you'll get a call from the parents about physical abuse.
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Old 03-19-2005, 05:35 AM   #54
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Ok, so what is the school to do?
That kid obviously needed to be restrained in some manners.
Why do people get outraged when the right thing is done?
I have a 6 years old boy and a 9 years old girl.
Would I initially be outraged if I was called to their school to find one of them in the back seat of a police cruiser with handcuff? You betcha I would.
But if one of my kid did behave like that little girl, then I would make sure that they receive the proper attention that they deserve.
That little girl is in dire needs of mental help. It is probably not the kid's fault, kids are not born a certain way, they are made the way they are by their parents or whoever raised them
Man, where do you live so I can have the authorities check you out. If you think this is ok to do to a 5 year old, then I worry about your children. It's called a temper tantrum people. All kids, ages 2-6 have them. Could be that they want a new power ranger, or they want to see Elmo, or they just might not want to eat their sandwich.

Fuck man , you are an idiot. The sad part is you are breeding and creating more of them.
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Old 03-19-2005, 06:40 AM   #55
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the kids grandmother should have had an abortion
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Old 03-19-2005, 06:45 AM   #56
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that teacher has no business being around young children

they set the school up for a lawsuit..nexty ear they wont even be able to afford jelly beans..lol
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Old 03-19-2005, 06:56 AM   #57
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5 year old kid... mmmm ok. That's pretty stupid, she's 5. I think the school needs a new teacher who can handle these kids.
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Old 03-19-2005, 08:20 AM   #58
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Scared Straight - big deal, perhaps the child will think next time before acting like that...something tells me with comments like this; "She's never going back to that school," Akins said. "They set my baby up." She's going to end up doing worse shit throughout her years.
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Old 03-19-2005, 08:36 AM   #59
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I have a 5 year old. I'd seriously inflict physical harm on someone if this happened to him.
Then YOU would be in jail while your child gets evaluated by childrens services. That would really solve something wouldn't it?...Then later on when the child grows up and gets arrested and put in REAL jail, they're gonna look at you the parent and say "what a fool".

How about teaching the child some common sense BEFORE they go to school and act like an ass?....I'd rather have my child handcuffed and put into a cruiser than have them swatted, which would have happened to me. That's physical harm. Who gives a shit if a child has to be restrained? The child has to LEARN that there will be repercussions for his/her actions.
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should lock the fucker up for a year or two, preferably in some hard labour prison, that'll teach her
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Old 03-19-2005, 09:18 AM   #61
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What ever happened to the good old method to take the kid to the principals office and have a chat about what happened? Surely there are other methods besides calling the police.

Of course, the parents are to blame for the child acting this way. But the school was not acting in the right way in this manner. They are responsable for the child and calling the cops is an obvious sign of weakness. If you can't deal with your own students, don't run a fucking school.

Don't start crap about teaching a 5 year old a lesson by throwing her in a police car. You don't know what you're talking about.
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Old 03-19-2005, 09:24 AM   #62
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I would NEVER send my kids to a kindergarten where the adults can't handle a 5 year old girl. Police? What a joke.... Fire the teachers!
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I would NEVER send my kids to a kindergarten where the adults can't handle a 5 year old girl. Police? What a joke.... Fire the teachers!
Very well said.
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Man, where do you live so I can have the authorities check you out. If you think this is ok to do to a 5 year old, then I worry about your children. It's called a temper tantrum people. All kids, ages 2-6 have them. Could be that they want a new power ranger, or they want to see Elmo, or they just might not want to eat their sandwich.

Fuck man , you are an idiot. The sad part is you are breeding and creating more of them.
I thought this thread was off limit to immature underaged troll fuckface.
A temper tantrum is not what this kid did, if you had bothered to read the article, you would have realized that this kid was about to hurt other people and herself. Now fuck off and go back to your mama
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The next thing we'll hear from this case is some stupid frivolous lawsuit against the school district and police department... stupidest shit ever.
I would consider that a justified lawsuit. I would even say that criminal charges would be appropriate in this case. The child is only 5 years old. Kids that age have temper tantrums all the time. If a teacher or a cop can't deal with this then they need to find another profession.
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Old 03-19-2005, 11:03 AM   #67
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I would NEVER send my kids to a kindergarten where the adults can't handle a 5 year old girl. Police? What a joke.... Fire the teachers!
I bet you don't have kids. I find nearly 100% of people that think raising or taking care of kids is "easy", don't have any.
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I bet you don't have kids. I find nearly 100% of people that think raising or taking care of kids is "easy", don't have any.
I used to think it was easy too. I now think that's its the hardest thing I'll ever do.

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I have two monsters of my own. But if a teacher can't handle a 5 year old, maybe they should try a different profession?

No doubt the kid is a brat, but seriously, arresting her seems excessive.
Agree... that's messed up!
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I have a 5 year old. I'd seriously inflict physical harm on someone if this happened to him.
If your kid behaved like that I would hope you would first inflict physical harm on him.
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Bullshit.

I guarantee you if your kid was doing this and the teacher restrained them as in maybe just put them in a bear hug...your faux "liberal" ass would be down there talking about how they abused your child etc.
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There is NEVER EVER a reason to put a 5 year old in handcuffs and placed in the back of a police car. EVER.


What about the kid that had the piece of broken glass a few months back?
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I guarantee you if your kid was doing this and the teacher restrained them as in maybe just put them in a bear hug...your faux "liberal" ass would be down there talking about how they abused your child etc.

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Old 03-19-2005, 12:48 PM   #75
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See post #14.

NEVER. This is a child. 5 years old is kindergarten. I have one. I know their mentality. There are much better ways of dealing with a child than handcuffs and police cars.

As Steve said, a person shouldn't be a teacher if they can't handle a child without resorting to this.

How many of you implying that this is okay are actually parents of a child aged 5 or older?
I have 2 kids, one 5 years-old. I don't know about your kids but my 5 year-old is perfectly capable of understanding that you don't hit, kick, punch or destroy property. She knows that people who do those things get punished and sometimes put in jail.

If my 5 year-old was acting violently at school, despite feeling like a bad parent, I would have no problems with them bringing in police to enforce the seriousness of the situation.

I'm a little tired of people defending children as being stupid, incoherent and perfectly innocent. People underestimate children all too often. Which could be partly to blame for children thinking they can get away with anything.
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The kid threw a temper tantrum..... I think throwing her in the back of a cop car is a bit of an over reaction.
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Wait, what are you supposed to do if some kid is throwing things at you?

Hit the kid? No.
Handcuff the kid? No.
Grab the kid kicking and screaming and biting? Either way, someone gets hurt but cant hurt the kid, or get accused of being too violent.

Seems like the handcuffing part is not excessive. Seems like arresting the kid is excessive.
no charges were filed, so technically she was not arrested, she was controlled and gotten out of the way so the other kids could get on with their day
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I would NEVER send my kids to a kindergarten where the adults can't handle a 5 year old girl. Police? What a joke.... Fire the teachers!
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bullshit. I knew a 5 year old that stole a fucking car. The kid was doomed from the gate.
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There are never incidnts like this so when does occur, you know its quite serious...the kid must of been really bad..and for the ppl that think the teacher should have done something are not being logical. I know a lot of ppl that are teachers and they always complain that they cant even yell at students or else they can lose their job and the students parents will all complain giving them stress from the principal. IF the teacher even grabbed the student after being kicked in the shin THEY WOULD LOSE THE LICENSE TO TEACH..and also what fuckn 5 year old do you Kicks an Adult in the shin and punches an adult in the stomach over beans or even money or even after being yelled at..i dont care what the reason..i dont know any kids that would inflict physical pain onto an adult...
the parents are fucked...kids are fucked
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i dont know any kids that would inflict physical pain onto an adult...
the parents are fucked...kids are fucked

Actually, my daughter was teaching autistic kids last year, and she was getting beat up, scratched, bitten daily.
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Very interesting to read how the views differ between those who have kids and those who don't. I don't have kids of my own, so I can't really say how I would feel if I were the mother in that situation.
But for those of you who think that it's not ok to restrain a 5 year old in that way, I'm just curious... What would YOU suggest the teacher should have done? This is a serious question, as I often wonder how teachers today are supposed to handle out of control kids when verbal discipline doesn't work, and they won't dare lay a finger on an unruly child for fear of a lawsuit or losing their job. You all seem to think it's not ok to restrain a child as a last resort, but none of you have any good solutions as to what SHOULD have been done. And don't tell me "time out", cause I know exactly how that would go over for a kid in "uncontrollable mode". (Just because I don't have kids doesn't mean I haven't been around plenty.)
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Get a fucking clue.

This is a 5 year old. And I don't give a shit if the child comes from a bad home or a good one. Handcuffing is not the solution. Just listening to your responses makes me sick. And people wonder why I look at american society and say "I'm glad I'm not american." So many of you just don't get it.

Even the best raised 5 year old can snap and create more chaos and mayhem then 10 regiments of US marines after a drinking binge in Iraq.

5 year olds are NOT adults and their brains are still developing. They are prone to snap.. they have no sense of justice.. right or wrong and it will take YEARS to teach them. They are completely ego-centric and everything... ABSOLUTELY-FUCKING EVERYTHING is immediate gratification to them.

(ie: "I want it NOW and if you don't give it to me then YOU are wrong and being MEAN!")

And yes some kids are better then others and some parents are lucky to never have one that gives them a day of grief.
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I agree that the child should have been removed from the class.
I think the parents shold have been called.
If the parents can't be reached you call child services. They are equiped to deal with this...NOT THE COPS!
And yes when it is all said and done some investigation should be made into the family itself.

For for all those that commented that "it serves the child right" or "It's about time someone beat the brat" or "Fry that bitch mother for not teaching her kid right."

Fucksakes!!! Has your god-damn 3.2 beer and cheese burger consuming redneck society clogged the arteries in your brains?
Your comments are the height of stupidity and you wonder why the rest of the civilized world thinks you are a nation of assholes.

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If she's violent at 5 years old, imagine what she will be like at 25. People do not change. The core of their personality is formed during childhood. I think it's ridiculous to arrest a 5 year old; but what if she hurt one of her classmates? If she can break a candy dish, she could surely pick up another object and possibly poke someone's eye out and blind them or worse. I don't blame anyone but her parent(s) for this. She learned the behavior somewhere; obviously at home. If she is capable of being that destructive at 5 years old, her temper and aggression will only escalate as she gets older. There's a difference between a brat/temper tantrum, and a child with a SERIOUS anger problem. What that child needs, the school and authorities could never give her... and I'm not referring to discipline.
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If she's violent at 5 years old, imagine what she will be like at 25. People do not change. The core of their personality is formed during childhood. I think it's ridiculous to arrest a 5 year old; but what if she hurt one of her classmates? If she can break a candy dish, she could surely pick up another object and possibly poke someone's eye out and blind them or worse. I don't blame anyone but her parent(s) for this. She learned the behavior somewhere; obviously at home. If she is capable of being that destructive at 5 years old, her temper and aggression will only escalate as she gets older. There's a difference between a brat/temper tantrum, and a child with a SERIOUS anger problem. What that child needs, the school and authorities could never give her... and I'm not referring to discipline.
Your comment exactly proves my point. So if you are telling me that people don't change between 5 and 25 years of age... No wonder why your society is fucked up.

But in the child's defense.
What damn teacher teaches with Jelly beans?

There is a little thing called "Childhood Diabeties" Not only can it sometimes be difficult to diagnose it is known to cause Hyperactive behaviour.

But perhaps the school might have known this if your nation spent more on their education system instead of their missle defense strategy.

And I bet the little girl had lots of time to calm down and get everything, maybe even the possible sugar, out of her system as they read the child her rights.

However, I doubt this argument will alter your thinking. Afterall, you most likely formed this opinion when you were 5 years old.
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Your comment exactly proves my point. So if you are telling me that people don't change between 5 and 25 years of age... No wonder why your society is fucked up.

But in the child's defense.
What damn teacher teaches with Jelly beans?

There is a little thing called "Childhood Diabeties" Not only can it sometimes be difficult to diagnose it is known to cause Hyperactive behaviour.

But perhaps the school might have known this if your nation spent more on their education system instead of their missle defense strategy.

And I bet the little girl had lots of time to calm down and get everything, maybe even the possible sugar, out of her system as they read the child her rights.

However, I doubt this argument will alter your thinking. Afterall, you most likely formed this opinion when you were 5 years old.
Yes, it's true. I believe a person's personality is formed from very early on in their life. Of course people's opinions, preferences, tastes, etc etc evolve over time, BUT people are always the same in one way or another deep down inside.

What does teaching with jelly beans have to do with anything? Are children or anyone for that matter not allowed to indulge in treats once in awhile? God, yeah... candy is the anti-Christ but a child who becomes violent in school is perfectly acceptable, right? And by the way, it didn't say they were eating the jelly beans.

While I think arresting a 5 year old is drastic, I can't really say I would know how to handle a violent child from a teacher's point of view. I'm not a teacher or a parent but that child has problems and if you think writing it off as a normal childhood tantrum is accurate, I hope you don't have kids now or ever.
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good! little brat deserves to be in a police cruiser, and her parents need a beating also.

little kids are brats these days and need to be taught a lesson.
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Old 03-19-2005, 02:20 PM   #89
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Your comment exactly proves my point. So if you are telling me that people don't change between 5 and 25 years of age... No wonder why your society is fucked up.

But in the child's defense.
What damn teacher teaches with Jelly beans?

There is a little thing called "Childhood Diabeties" Not only can it sometimes be difficult to diagnose it is known to cause Hyperactive behaviour.

But perhaps the school might have known this if your nation spent more on their education system instead of their missle defense strategy.

And I bet the little girl had lots of time to calm down and get everything, maybe even the possible sugar, out of her system as they read the child her rights.

However, I doubt this argument will alter your thinking. Afterall, you most likely formed this opinion when you were 5 years old.
okay, idiot, where did the article say anything about the kids eating the jelly beans? It is a little difficult to show your work when the answer is in your stomach
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Old 03-19-2005, 02:30 PM   #90
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okay, idiot, where did the article say anything about the kids eating the jelly beans? It is a little difficult to show your work when the answer is in your stomach
Oh lord my god.. Jelly beans and a 5 year old she doesn't try and stick them in her mouth and eat them.

Wow.. who is the idiot in this conversation?
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Old 03-19-2005, 02:35 PM   #91
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Yes, it's true. I believe a person's personality is formed from very early on in their life. Of course people's opinions, preferences, tastes, etc etc evolve over time, BUT people are always the same in one way or another deep down inside.

What does teaching with jelly beans have to do with anything? Are children or anyone for that matter not allowed to indulge in treats once in awhile? God, yeah... candy is the anti-Christ but a child who becomes violent in school is perfectly acceptable, right? And by the way, it didn't say they were eating the jelly beans.

While I think arresting a 5 year old is drastic, I can't really say I would know how to handle a violent child from a teacher's point of view. I'm not a teacher or a parent but that child has problems and if you think writing it off as a normal childhood tantrum is accurate, I hope you don't have kids now or ever.
Obviously you can't read and you don't have a clue. You stated this yourself.

For that matter.... I've stated my piece and if the bunch of you just can't figure it out..

Then fuck ya! You're not worth it.
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Seriously, if a teacher can't handle a 5 year old's temper tantrum, he/she should find a new job.
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should of called her parents and spanked her ass.
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Obviously you can't read and you don't have a clue. You stated this yourself.

For that matter.... I've stated my piece and if the bunch of you just can't figure it out..

Then fuck ya! You're not worth it.
You don't make any sense. Ignorant people like you are the reason I think IQ and psychological tests should be mandatory so people with below average and/or poor results aren't allowed to procreate.
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Seriously, if a teacher can't handle a 5 year old's temper tantrum, he/she should find a new job.

How do you "handle" a child that's trashing the classroom and kicking people?

I'm not a parent nor a teacher so I wouldn't know.
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There is NEVER EVER a reason to put a 5 year old in handcuffs and placed in the back of a police car. EVER.
lol, you're nutts.

she's running around kicking and punching and breaking stuff....what would you do? talk to her calmly? 5 year olds respond well to that right?

the kid has to be restrained doesnt she? the school can't do it because they might get in trouble, so they have a cop do it, and then determine what to do with the child (let her go home with mommy for a talking to, of course).

you'd rather just let her run around wild till she tires out? maybe she'd gouge out one of your kids eyes...and you'd still be glad no one laid a hand on her right?


....some peoples ideas of "innocent kids"........
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There is NO way for the teacher to "HANDLE" the kid... If the teacher barely touches the brat, she'll have the school board under lawsuit, with a civil lawsuit right after her own ass.

You cant "HANDLE" kids anymore, because of FUCKED ASS parents who 1) cant raise their kids right 2) are anal liberals
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youve got to deal with kids on their level. cuffed and thrown in jail isn't on their level
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You expect a teacher to be able to make a violent, uncontrollable kid, sit down, STFU, and not move just by looking at her and saying "All is well in school, school is good, school is nice. Please sit down".


Sure, the easy reply to this is, WHY COULDNT THE TEACHER HANDLE THE KID?? SHES ONLY 5!

The reason?! WHY WONT THE PARENTS LET THE TEACHER "HANDLE" THE KID, without fear of being fucking SUED and PUT INTO JAIL!?

The school is responsible when its in session, so - they should take all viable measures to keep the kid inline - if that means the teacher restraining the kid; SO BE IT. As long as their isnt any harm being inflicted, what is the harm? The kid was causing DAMAGE and BODILY INJURY - it NEEDED to be restrained. The back of a cop car, with arms and legs restrained where FURTHER damage to PROPERTY and possible the CHILD ITSELF, is negated.


The school and police should be COMMENDED for NOT calling SOCIAL SERVICES and having a formal investigation filed and completed against the mother and home life of the child, which has bred this wild brat.

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If the cops were trying to scare her into behaving, I hope it worked ... then again, they may have also traumatized her for life.
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